I have felt like this in the past, and being scared and fearful are real feelings and they need to be delt with in some manner or they will just go on and on, and your situation could become worse.
I think that going to see a therapist is a good idea, and I'm sure that the therapist will give you plenty of ideas a ways of how to overcome your fears and shyness, it's just up to you weather or not you want to implement them or not, and by reading your post it seems to me that you are fed up and you want to change things, so I would give it a real shot if I was you.
Yeah, I think my social anxiety is a result of years of fear, building up, leading me to be the person I am today. I do want to change, though. In fact, I’m desperate. I want to live and, right now, I’m not really living at all. People have told me that knowing you want to change is the first step... So I’m just hoping I can build on it. I am going to give the therapist a go. Thanks for your advice.
. I cant remember, but I think I saw a picture of you on the site and you looked really cute, you just need to find something to do taht will make you proud of yourself.
Haha, nah, there’s definitely been no picture of me on here, and I’m not cute. Sometimes I am proud of myself, but those feelings don’t last long and it doesn’t make me feel better. I think it’s because I don’t really believe that I’ve done anything good. I find the whole positive attitude so hard.
I would be interested to know though, what effect your SA has on your depression, or is it the other way around – does your depression cause you to be socially anxious?
I think initially it was social anxiety that caused me to become so isolated which led to immense loneliness, leading to depression. Now, though, I just feel so down all the time that it heightens feelings of anxiety. Hm, yeah, I don’t really know what effect one has on the other. I just want rid of them both so that I can start living the life I really want to live.
The issue is how to get confidence – it just doesn’t magic itself into existence as some people think – there is a process. Would i be right in saying that a big factor in social anxiety is appearance? So a cause of embarrassment might be the focus of attention on oneself – and the subject of focus may be something that conflicts with the ego? It might be the ego that is blocking normal thinking and behaviour. One answer may be to bypass the ego. And one way i know of doing this is to temporarily make to conscious effort to forget that we have SA or depression or whatever else, and for a moment concentrate 100% on someone new – a shop assistant, a work-colleague…anyone. The mere act of forgetting who we are for that moment is quite an eye-opener. You might be able to look back and say “wow, i wasn’t really that anxious during that time”.
Other things i would heartily suggest are mindfulness and meditation, as practiced by Buddhists. It might sound like new-age nonsense but it’s really more like age-old wisdom. So simple too.
I am trying things like that. The other day, I made small talk with a random guy in the post office. I know it sounds lame cos things like this are so easy for most people. He started talking to me, so I talked back... I actually did feel pleased with myself. I can’t remember what we spoke about, I was nervous... but I did establish eye contact and I wasn’t rude. I just have days when I feel like I can do things like that but, other days, I don’t want to leave the house.
I haven’t ever tried meditation. I might try it sometime, thanks.
try not to see going to a thearpist as someone your forced to see to figure out your problems, try maybe to see them as a peir that you can "pratice" opening up too.
I just hope I can open up to her... I don’t feel forced to go see her. Thing is, my parents are so cut and dry. My dad thinks after a few sessions with her, I’ll be “back to normal and I can get on with my life”. He’s a very positive person, which is good... It’s just I don’t feel like a few sessions talking to some woman about me is going to help me resolve all these issues just like that. I’m probably being pessimistic idk.
1) Try not to have the mental state of, "I'll try" but rather that "I'll do." Its very easy to end up trying something for years and never actually get anywhere. I encourage working on small objectives that you know that you have a good chance of accomplishing.
I think that’s ultimately where I fail all the time. I always try, but never actually do. It’s always the fear that holds me back... I somehow have to get over that. Like sometimes I’ll talk myself into doing something but, at the last moment, I’ll pull out. For example if my sister invites me out with all her friends, I’ll psych myself up to go but then I’ll cancel at the last moment and end up feeling rubbish for doing so. Your advice is really helpful, though, thanks.
Change is possible, but it's a long, hard road. I'm not even sure if you can fully get rid of the anxiety, either. It might still come to you now and then, but nothing as severe as what you're experiencing now. Still, you'll only really overcome it by continuously putting yourself in social situations that make you uncomfortable, and then acting against your fears. After a while, you'll get desensitized to them. (flooding)... It's really worked for me and helped me to feel more "normal" around people. Now I generally don't have problems starting conversations with strangers, and a few people told me they had a hard time believing that I'm shy. It took me a few years to get to that point, though.
Don't lose hope... just push yourself to change. No matter how hard and how tough it seems, just tell yourself that it's better than doing nothing and living with your fear. Learn to love yourself. You're not a loser, and you're not boring. There are people that love you, and with good reason. Try to change your perception of people. Don't see meeting new people as something to be nervous about, but something exciting!
I was also a psychology major. It's funny.. I think a large number of people take psychology, because they have social issues of some kind. I met a lot of people in my classes who were far from "normal"; a lot of them seemed to be highly self-conscious or anxious. Maybe they take that major, because they want to understand why they feel the way they do.
The key thing that helped me overcome my anxiety, though, was determination and motivation. It doesn't matter how much advice you receive; you have to have a strong desire to change your current situation.
Wow, thanks so much for taking the time to write all that. Yeah, I guess people take psychology for different reasons... I think it’s cool you did too. It did help studying it though. I feel like I understand why I’m feeling the way I do. I used to put myself in social situations that made me feel uncomfortable, but I always ended up feeling worse at the end of it, cos I stayed silent and never knew how to talk to people. For that reason, lately, I’ve been avoiding anything that makes me feel anxious. I thought that was a good way to deal with things. It’s not. I’m not living any sort of life right now, I know that.
Tennisgirl, I'm familiar all too well with many things you're talking about. I don't think that social anxiety can be overcome completely and forever. BUT the situation really can be improved. I know what it means to long for social interaction but at the same time be afraid of it in fear to mess up and look stupid. You know what, try this sort of approach: tell yourself you can't realistically fuck up your situation more than it already is, so might as well relax and milk all the fun out of any particular social situation you can get. I dunno, maybe it sounds somewhat on the negative side but it helps me, actually.
You said you're a boring loser who has nothing to talk about. That's bullshit. Even if you haven't led a rich social life and don't have plenty of stories to tell, like about how you got drunk in a party and threw a demonstration of strip-tease on the table, you still have some kind of interests or hobbies. Everyone has. That's what you can talk about.
But basically, what's really gonna help you, is your own decision to acquire a brighter outlook on life. You can even try and find a friend online who shares your interests (and, preferably, lives in the same general area), so you can meet them too.
I’ve been thinking like that lately. My situation can’t get much worse, so any improvement would be welcome. It’s just the fear I can’t get over. It’s always there, holding me back from doing anything... even simple things. I do have hobbies, true, it just seems like everyone I meet, well I don’t meet many people anymore... but say if I go out with my sister and her friends, all they talk about is drinking, who slept with who, so and so’s new boyfriends blah blah blah.. I can’t contribute to discussions like that. One, I’m not interested, and, 2, I don’t know the people they’re all talking about. So I just sit there. I don’t know how to meet likeminded people anymore... I wasted all those opportunities at university. I do have a good online friend who is awesome to talk to. We live no where near eachother, though. Oh well.
Thanks so much for everyone’s advice. Even if you don’t think it’s helpful... it really is to me. I’m going to try to actually implement some of those things (well, I’ll take baby steps) and see what the therapist has to say, too. Thanks again.