I dont believe you can seriously trade mental pain for physical pain. Cutting is for the week minded. man up and face your problems and make the most of it, theres no piont crying over spilt milk.

Instead, maybe you should look into your attitude and change the way you think, i cant see how anything can be so bad that you need to bleed it out. even if it does "numb" you, which i highly doubt, its only for a short time and afterwords will make u feel worse, have these scars that show how much of a failure you are, and destroy your self esteem.

Watch a movie or something, there is so many things you can do to take your mind of something, and if it doesnt, change your attitude, get over it, your only making life harder for yourself.

Your life is only as shit as you make it out to be. if you say, oh my life is so shit, then you will live a shit life.

In my mind its all an attention thing, if they have no way of speaking out then they use there scars to talk for them.

Ok, say a person did change their thoughts. Say they didn't let themself think these things. Tell me, because I'm just dying to know. How can you decide what you dream of? Tell me. How do you change your subconscious? I'd love to know. Does ignoring a chemical imballance in your brain really make it go away?

Please don't give advice to people who fully understand a topic when you don't know jack about it.

Well I did agree with him about the attitude. I mean to conquer anything in life its all about how you approach something. I did not agree about it making you week minded though.

I must be doing something wrong then.
I don't hurt myself anymore.
But I was happier when I did.
It's ok though. I'm stupid, which is the same thing as being weak minded.

This post was last modified: 06-22-2008 06:50 PM by Qui.

If your not doing it any longer then your doing the right thing.

Qui, I am here to tell you that your about as far away from stupid as any one could get.

I sometimes think I was happier when I was smoking. There was a reason I stopped the cigarettes as there was a reason that you stopped the cutting. Cos you and me both know that we never got anything out of it now. Don't we? There can be no good come out of ether of this things.

Sometimes I wish I was really stupid. only because if you look at really stupid ppl there normally happy with it lol To stupid to see that there not having anything like GF/BF car home act should be making them unhappy. Or maybe there the bright ones that just don't give a flying fuck about anything??? Who knows huh.

This post was last modified: 06-22-2008 07:56 PM by Bluey.

Ok, i think you have misunderstood me. Im talking about people that sit at home and say, my life is so crap, i am doomed to have a bad life, live alone and never be happy. Those people need to stop thinking like that and think of the all the positive things in life.

Im not talking about ignoring anything. Say when you brake up with a partner, you dont forget that, and you shouldnt, but you shouldnt cry about it and let it control your life. You need to learn from it, and move on with your life.

When i talk about attitude, i mean what you do with your life. 2 people can have the exact same problem, yet they can take it different ways. guy number 1 sits in his room cutting himself and crys himself to sleep, while guy number 2 gets out there and makes the most of the situation and enjoys life for what it is.

Please, I wasnt trying to agrovate anyone, but to deal the cold hard truth, and most people dont like it hear it.

If you think negatively and you dwel on all the bad things in life, then ofcoarse its going to ride on your subconscious, and therefor appear in your dreams.

I would like to know what it actually takes for someone to cut themself, to feel life isnt worth living. People that think this have a disorder. Im sure plenty of people in 3rd world countries would kill for the chance to live your life, where food is easy to access, fresh water is everywhere, opertunity to work, medical care, everything. these people struggle just to survive, if they saw you wanting to die because you have no friends and your lonely they would think its a joke.

So tell me now that the way you think has nothing to do with depression and self harming thoughts.

Oh and how can you say i know jack about it? i knew people that did it, i know what its like to feel at your absolute low, just because i choose to punch a pag or walk it off instead of self loathing and cutting doesnt mean i know nothing about it.

This post was last modified: 06-22-2008 09:02 PM by Porman.

maybe you liked the attention and sympathy it brang? just a thought dont attack me lol

This post was last modified: 06-22-2008 09:12 PM by Porman.

No one ever knew I did that.
Well, my mom found out about a year after I stopped and I was grounded for a while. Which is hilarious because I wasn't allowed to hang out with people and had to stay alone in my room for a few weeks. I hope I'm not the only one to see the gap in that logic, lol.

I've got friends. I've got a basically perfect life. The only thing I could really complain about would be verbal abuse, but that's my fault for being a teen that actually listens when my parents talk to me.
I guess from what you and other people are saying that the truth is that I'm just stupid.
Because none of the things you've said were ever a reason for me to dislike myself. I don't have any disorder. I'm not very smart, but no disorders. I've got a perfect life. As far as that goes, I could never ask for more. I love my life.
But I don't deserve it.
I'm not going to explain my reasoning or thoughts pertaining to my feelings for myself or subsequent self injury. Obviously from what you've said, I'm wrong in what I've done. I know it's wrong. I know I'm a bad person for having done it, I knew that back when I did it too. I'm disgusting. That's fine. That's what I am. I don't deserve any of the stuff I have. I deserve to hurt. And I do, so that's fine too. It's ok, really.
I guess I'm just too dumb to follow the conventions of self injury.

You shouldnt call yourself dumb, I really doubt you are. What makes you feel like you deserve less then you have? You dont sound like a bad person. Everyone deserves to be happy, except child abuses and such, but i dont think your one of those

I dont know maybe its a girl thing :S

anyway im sorry qui, i feel like iv been rude, i dont mean to be its just the way it comes out when i type things instead of speaking it out. take care.

You shouldnt call yourself dumb, I really doubt you are. What makes you feel like you deserve less then you have? You dont sound like a bad person. Everyone deserves to be happy, except child abuses and such, but i dont think your one of those

I dont know maybe its a girl thing :S

anyway im sorry qui, i feel like iv been rude, i dont mean to be its just the way it comes out when i type things instead of speaking it out. take care.

No, you aren't being rude. It's ok, I was pretty rude saying you didn't know what you were talking about. You're completely right, I'm sorry.