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jales Senior Member      Posts: 590 Group: Registered Joined: Apr 2007 Status: Offline Reputation
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Here are a few common problems that lead to "BORING DATE-ITIS" where men aren't inspired and craving a second date to get to know you better:
Problem #1) Playing it "safe" and trying consciously to get a man to like you. This includes following his lead all the time, not saying anything about how you think or feel that you think will upset him, and making sure that you're "polite" and never say anything that could be too controversial.
Problem #2) Acting "formal." This is death when it comes to interest and attraction. A man either feels like he's on a job interview and doesn't become EMOTIONALLY ENGAGED with you... or he's plain BORED with you and will have a hard time finding anything about WHO YOU ARE that is personally interesting.
A man doesn't fall for a "good" woman, and doesn't want to be with her because she's good.
A man falls for a woman who makes HIM FEEL GOOD, and who is exciting and fun to be around - even if she is a little "bad."
Problem #3) Being BORING. And talking about BORING things. At the top of the list are of course the things that women talk about and go to as a kind of "default" when they're wondering what to say - jobs, family, weather, etc. Everything that makes up "what people talk about to get to know each other."
These things don't really help us get to know one another. Sure, they're nice... but they don't cost much for us to reveal, and we'd tell any stranger about these things if they asked in a nice way.
But more importantly, they don't create any kind of EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE or CONNECTION when you talk about them.
In fact, they put a man back into the mundane aspects of his everyday life... and he'll bring those feelings to the table with him when you talk about all these things.
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Oh, there's also my personal favorite approach women take on "unknowingly."
I call it the "volunteer therapist" approach.
It's when a woman starts digging for the things that a man is having a hard time about in his life, in hopes of connecting to him about something important in his life.
And when they find this thing inside a man, they use it to become his VOLUNTEER THERAPIST.
As though if they can make things better for a man, he'll magically transfer the understanding he feels into UNDYING LOVE.
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When you meet a man for coffee, for dinner, or just to get to know one another, it's time to have FUN.
It's not time to try and kiss up to him, or to be his therapist, or to massage his ego and tell him all the things he might want to hear.
That's what he has a mother for.
Playing it safe and kissing up to a man, or showing him that you nervously hope that he is going to like you and give you his approval is a sure way to get either a man who will take things to a physical level just because the opportunity is there... or a man who won't call you back because he's not interested for real.
ACTING "FORMAL"
Don't talk about your job and your family for starters!
BORING!
There is plenty of time to talk about all this stuff and get into these things once you and a man are both EMOTIONALLY ENGAGED not just as two people, but as two people who are ROMANTICALLY INTERESTED in each other.
The romantic interest stuff (that spark) needs to be there and come together first on a date with a man before you get into all the predictable yadda yadda yadda stuff.
Women who are trying to convince men that they're "nice" or good people talk about their families and how good they are at their jobs.
Or how they have their act together.
Let me give you a hint:
Do you know what a "boring" and not so interesting woman acts like on a date with a man?
Well, for starters she acts like he's NOT COMFORTABLE in the situation...
She talks too much about things she thinks will make her look good.
She apologizes for the smallest little thing of no consequence like not being ready to order yet when the waiter comes.
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Tip #1. Talk about things you are passionate about. And no, I'm not talking about the 7 cats you have at home and how cute they are. Talk about something you like to do that has a PURPOSE.
A man can and will relate to this... and he'll start to see things in you he couldn't see before. A good example of this is a woman I know who loves to practice yoga. When she describes what it is about yoga that fills her inside and makes her feel great physically, emotionally, and spiritually - you can't help but be drawn in.
Tip #2. Talk about something that isn't BORING, and instead a little out of the ordinary. One great thing to do is to get a man to talk about his life, then find things to make observations about that either let him know you "get him" and what he's about (why he does what he does)... or find little things to tease him about.
This is a great opportunity for building the kind of attraction that will carry into the future.
Men love joking and teasing. It's their universal way of bonding. And when a woman is laid-back and comfortable and playful enough to not be completely serious and sincere 100% of the time, it's refreshing and fun for a man.
For example, if a man seems very hard-working and serious... you might make a flirty sarcastic joke like this:
YOU: "Well, it's too bad you're such a flaky slacker. I was looking for a man of substance. But I guess you're still decent company."
And you say all this with a warm and playful smile on your face to let him know you're playing around.
He'll know you're joking, and want to engage in the playful behavior with you.
HIM: "Well, that's too bad because I was going to ask if you could start supporting me so I could stop working all together and just sit at home and watch TV all day."
YOU: "Mmmm... what a turn-on a man like that would be for me."
You get the idea...
The magic here is if you can be SAYING ONE THING... but subtly MEANING ANOTHER THING.
Men find this riveting and won't want the fun and flirtation to stop.
Tip #3. If there is a silence, NEVER let it be uncomfortable. I think that it's great to stop talking when you're first getting to know a man and enjoy a few silences where you're either just having eye contact... or you're simply in each other's company but not "filling the space" with idle chatter 100% of the time.
If the conversation goes cold for a few moments, just pay attention to something else for a minute and don't be afraid to engage in the environment around you.
This includes talking and paying attention to other people in a fun and open way, or making funny or silly observations of what's going on around you.
Strangely enough, a man will want your attention more, and want to give you more attention, if you engage with other people around you more often.
Tip #4. DON'T BE PREDICTABLE. The more predictable you are, the faster you will be considered BORING. -------------------------------------------------------------------
they tell you to be secure and not a guy-pleaser...but then turn around and say you have to be witty and all that crap...what if I'm not witty! I'f i take his advice i'm going to end up trying to please the guy in any case..just not in my own way..
but then maybe he's right and i wouldnt be so bad at relationships if i took his advice. Still this stuff pisses me off! Lol! I’m selfish, impatient, and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle, but if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.
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| 08-17-2008 03:27 AM | |
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pkg_inc Junior Mebmer    Posts: 38 Group: Registered Joined: Jul 2008 Status: Offline Reputation
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I was a little unsure of when you were saying your opinion and when you were quoting this guy (whom I've never heard of ), but on a general basis, I think it's wrong to try and change oneself just to make other people like you. I mean, it's not that one shouldn't make an effort, but everyone in his/her own way. Sure, people like being flirted with, but if you don't have if in you to do it in your own way, why bother? Everyone got something, y'know. Besides, some guys (I'm one) prefer the more quiet girls ^^ |
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| 08-17-2008 04:15 AM | |
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RobertJW Member     Posts: 164 Group: Registered Joined: May 2008 Status: Offline Reputation
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Never heard of this Carter guy.
And as for worrying about what to say on a date - just GETTING one would be nice Where are all the nice girls? |
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| 08-17-2008 05:51 AM | |
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ClosetGeek is taking her heart wherever she goes     Posts: 182 Group: Registered Joined: Jun 2008 Status: Away Reputation
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they tell you to be secure and not a guy-pleaser...but then turn around and say you have to be witty and all that crap...what if I'm not witty! I'f i take his advice i'm going to end up trying to please the guy in any case..just not in my own way..
but then maybe he's right and i wouldnt be so bad at relationships if i took his advice. Still this stuff pisses me off! Lol! You should be secure for yourself. Interesting and witty for yourself and NOT do a list of things to impress a guy. CC is okay. I read his stuff to understand the male perspective of things. I like this guy better. Practical Happiness[/quote]
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| 09-12-2008 01:37 AM | |
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cheaptrickfan Junior Member    Posts: 21 Group: Registered Joined: Aug 2008 Status: Away Reputation
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they tell you to be secure and not a guy-pleaser...but then turn around and say you have to be witty and all that crap...what if I'm not witty! I'f i take his advice i'm going to end up trying to please the guy in any case..just not in my own way..
but then maybe he's right and i wouldnt be so bad at relationships if i took his advice. Still this stuff pisses me off! Lol! It bugs me too. It places the onus on the woman. God, I should write a book about all the jackasses with whom I've gone out on first dates. I swear, it's a miracle that our species can stand each other to propagate. Though, that might be because of the booze...
I can say from experience, that being someone who isn't quite "you" is a disaster. It is a drag being "you" and all alone though. I know. I'm living it.
((((hugs))))
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| 09-13-2008 09:23 PM | |
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Minus Freak        Posts: 3,678 Group: Super Moderators Joined: Apr 2008 Status: Offline Reputation
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I have no idea who Christian Carter is but i am rather sad that he won't let anyone talk to be about their 7 cats. With seven of those critters i bet they they are up to some sort of mischief. |
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| 09-15-2008 03:11 PM | |
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