just so you know I was joking I would had replied back yesterday but you know the drink was distracting and I did not think to come back here.

I hope its helped some dude. Do you know he she read any of it?

No I don't know if it's been read by her and after yesterday I don't fancy calling to find out.

I don't actually know how she came across this site, but of all the things I have written she only picked up on the bit I mentioned about being nagged.

Now I can look back and see I wasn't being nagged anywhere as much as I thought I was. Not that it makes a lot of difference now.

I make a fool of myself every time I speak to her yet I can't help myself

Being in love kinder dose make us do stupid things I guss. The problem here to what I can make out is your EX just dose not feel the same way about you. I don't think this makes her a bad person. I mean it can feel a bit suffocating when you have someone coming on strong.

I know you have had counseling and they tell you that you need to move on. Well as you say somewhere else you already know this. But I guss when it comes down to it you can put it in any different fancy way you like but end of the day if she dose not wont you then its that basic,,,, You need to move on. And in tell you do there is no counselor in the world that well be able to help you. This has to come from you. Only when you have had enough in punishing yourself like this well I feel you well decide that enough is enough and move on.

Oh and to make matters worse, today would have been our 20th anniversary

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Oh and to make matters worse, today would have been our 20th anniversary

Go out and get laid. Seriously.



Oh, yeah and liposuctionlol, when I wrote my little step manual, I did forget what to do with the person's stuff, reminders, etc. Thanks for reminding me. Burn it. Throw it out. Do whatchya gotta do.

RobertJW Wrote:

Oh and to make matters worse, today would have been our 20th anniversary

Go out and get laid. Seriously.

If only it were that easy.

I've never been a "one night stand" type of bloke, and if I was I doubt I'd have the nerve.

Sex without emotion is something I think I would struggle to do

zraskolnikov Wrote:

RobertJW Wrote:

Oh and to make matters worse, today would have been our 20th anniversary

Go out and get laid. Seriously.

If only it were that easy.

I've never been a "one night stand" type of bloke, and if I was I doubt I'd have the nerve.

Sex without emotion is something I think I would struggle to do

I think what he is saying is that you need to be meeting other ppl. (Woman) You have no chance with you EX. sometimes this things are only as easy as you make it. If in your own heard you think the only women for you well be your EX then that's how it well stay.

How do you give your self a chance if you do not go out and try. By stowing on the one thing you can not have you put your emotions in an imposable position. If you go out at least you are not in thinking about the one person you can not have. You may meet another women that you well feel the same for.

It would be good for you I think if you had a friend like zraskolnikov that lived near you cos he could come round and drag your ass out.

I feel for you man I really do cos I know what its like to be hurt. But you don't give your self a chance. By constantly pining over a women you well never be able to have back is not achieving anything. you need to change your mined set. I have been very blunt here only cos I think that's the right and honest thing to do. I don't think I would be doing you any favors by sugar coting my replies to you.

I have to say zraskolnikov reply to you would probably be the same reply as %99 of all other men in the world. Drop the women that dose not care for you and go fined one that well.

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OK, I'll let you in on something.

A couple of months ago I found on the internet the NCDS - national Council for Divorced and separated. I got in contact with them, and one of them phoned me to go to one of their weekly meetings.

So, for the first time in many years I got dressed up and went to this NCDS meeting.

It was in a Working Mens Club (so the beer was cheap!) and someone met me just inside the door: so far so good.

I sat next to the organiser, a lady aged in her 50's. A few people came and said hello. I started to look around, and most of the people there were, how shall I put it.........old.

Now I am in my 40's but I dont really think I look that old. But this place........well, I was the youngest in the room by at least 10 years.

As the place filled up, more and more older people arrived. Some of them were pensioners. And the worst thing about it? Most of them were COUPLES!!!!

yes - these people had met at the NCDS, got married, and continue to go to the functions! Bizarre.

So I was in effect in a room full of 50 and 60 year old couples.

Naturally, I didnt go back. And I think that experience was just a little note telling me not to bother.

Too old for ordinary clubs (which I hate anyway) and too young for NCDS

Ow I know the kinder place you mean. That is stupid how ppl would carry on even though they now have each other.

But thing is mate that is only the one place. I know what you mean about normal clubs. Ye you would look well out of place in one of them. I look 10 years younger then I am. I mean most would place me to be in my early 20s. But even I am starting to feel old in the normal clubs, all tho I still can get away with it. just that I don't have that much energy. most in them placers are teenyboppers just looking for one hell of a mad night normally. There is other placers tho. Do you have any friends who are in the same vote? If you started going out together you might meet someone.

How about dating sights? Try and put yourself about a bit. maybe I should try the same thing huh, Ye I know its hard mate. But I do think that you well not be able to move on tell you have meet someone else. You should be able to move on with out meeting other women. But I think meeting another women well help.

But hay, At least you tried the place, that shows that you do wont to move on.