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is it just me?

is it just me or are public shootings becoming more common?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/niu_shooting

I saw this article on the yahoo home page.

there was virgina tech last year 30 people definitly the worst so far, the amish killings. And the Omaha mall shooting that was so sad because a lot of them where christmas shopping. And it's weird becuase it wasn't at school so it wasn't like he was killing people that he knew and had harassed him. He was just killing strangers.

I even heard that some guy was planing on going to the super bowl to kill a bunch of people he was like in the parking lot. luckily he was caught before he could hurt anyone.

It's weird because there isn't a motive and they ussally commit suicide afterwards.

I've been very emotinally distressed the last few years that i can actually sympathise for the killer. of course i feel for the victems and the family.

But i think I understand. they where tired of such a hard and distresing life, they had probably been lonely and harassed by others. They wanted to kill themselves. But if they did. It felt like that was too small of an act to comprise their terrible and unforunate lives. And when they do the family will mourn. But no one would remeber them. They probably had few friends, probably not very kown in school or their community. I guess they wanted to go down in some kind of blaze of glory, if they went down they felt they should take others down with them people that made them suffer people that made them hurt. And even if they will be remembered of somekind of monster or horrible person at least they will be remebered. No one wants to die and have there be no trace of their existance left on the world.

i guess I would like to hear some of your guys opinions on this,

Also a major issue i think is that it is too easy for people, escpecially in the US, to obtain firearms. I think there should be a limit on the kind of guns that are aviable to citizens, i don't really know much about guns, but these people are getting, big guns. A lot of them are obtained illegally too, i don't think gun control should be banned, the reason the right to bear arms was given to the people in 1976 was so that we form a milita in a time of crisis and rise up against the goernment in case it became corrupted. I don't think people should get rifles in case some one breaks into their house, it's fairly unlikely and if it did happen you would probably just lose some material items.

I think that gun control should be regulated a lot better, and have more severe crimes against the illegal obtaining of guns.

What do you think?


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I think you need to stick with giving out hugs instead of bullets.

Ive thought about killing myself many times, but never taking anyone else with me. Thats not my call to make wether that person deserves to live or die.

about gun control I dont really see the need for people to own a gun, but im pretty much against any legislation that violates my personal freedom. I think the government has become an overcomplicated and overcontrolling piece of shit. Somewhere along the lines the government has shifted its purpose from serving us to us serving it. Fuck babysitting me! I already have parents to do that, instead spend my money on something usefull like restructuring our crappy ass education system, or improving the shit ass roads where I live. I dont want my money bieng spent on some dumbass election campaign where it ends up making no difference who gets elected anyways.


im pissed off now...


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I'm sorry


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I'm sorry


Lol not your fault Toungue

Just the way the government is driving is straight into poverty is maddening.
Thus country needs a tyrant to take office and format the government like it was a computer filled with spyware and crap.


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we have brought this upon ourselves,people making fun of other people,it is a disgusting act
And is the cause of most school shootings =/


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Gun control is the surest way to make sure that guns only get into the hands of the wrong people. The black market for guns, like the black market for illegal drugs, cannot be completely suppressed as even nations like Engand have discovered. This results in criminals obtaining more firearms, and actual crime rate being as high if not higher than in the US.

The fact remains that the best deterrent against armed criminals is armed and law-abiding citizens.

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These high school shooters aren't "criminals" in gangs. They're "regular" kids who were able to obtain firearms from friends or relatives (or just bought them, even).

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Matt Wrote:
These high school shooters aren't "criminals" in gangs. They're "regular" kids who were able to obtain firearms from friends or relatives (or just bought them, even).


Then the fault lies with those who were provided them with guns, but also with those who did /not/ carry guns that could have easily stopped him. In a democracy, gun ownership is as much as a responsibility as it is a right.

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They seem to be coming quite common don't they?

Where do they get the idea from to do such things, that's what i would ask.

I mean in the Wild West there were plenty of guns, and plenty of bad people using them i'm sure, but did they go into schools and start shooting kids? No.

Something's happened to these modern shootist's brains - maybe something that is de-sensitizing them to violence and gun crime. Hmmm...what can we blame? Computer games, the gun-crazed media, government setting bad examples with illegal wars - with horrendous disregard for life, the break down in community - values, a common good and community spirit, or modern parents who just don't care about anything. Maybe all of the above.

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Its us children we are to blame for the shootings.
We make fun of kids to the point were we drive them insane
to the point were they dont know what to do anymore
so they just take anyone they
care about or hate out with them
it is sad and even i have caught myself
saying something rash to another student it is
disgusting and i hate that ive done that i will
never do it again,and if i do and someone gets hurt for
i couldnt live with myself.We have ourselves to blame
How far weve come.......*head in hands*


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