DaleEvans89
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..who choose to give up on flirting with women decide to rely upon prostitutes and/or strippers for sex?
Why do women look down upon men
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h3donist
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Well the whole issue of paying for sex will split any audience, male or female. I don't think it's an opinion that only women hold. In fact plenty of women have no issue with it, and a lot of men think it's exploitative and wrong.
Wow, not what I was expecting when I clicked on this.
I agree with h3donist. There are people in this world that believe it is a bad thing.
From a woman's point of view, if a guy did that a lot, I would worry about diseases if I was too date him later on. That's probably it, really. So many people think prostitutes have lots of STDs.
I agree with h3donist. There are people in this world that believe it is a bad thing.
From a woman's point of view, if a guy did that a lot, I would worry about diseases if I was too date him later on. That's probably it, really. So many people think prostitutes have lots of STDs.
VanillaCreme
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Nicolelt said:
Oh my, not what I was expecting either...
But I agree. Although, I would have a think over if someone had any numerous amount of partners, regardless of if they were prostitutes, escorts, or just a multitude of girlfriends over the years.
there is no hope
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Women are conditioned to look down on men, usually because of what they are rather than what they do. What a man does is only relevant insofar as it is an indicator of what he is, at least with a woman with whom you've done nothing directly and very little indirectly. In the same way, no amount of effort is going to make a woman like a man, they either do or they don't.
I think women would judge a man more if he was fool enough to admit he visited prostitutes, rather than the woman disapproving of the trade itself - though there are plenty of completely valid reasons to despite the sex trade in all of its forms, I don't think most women are willing to do what is really necessary to stamp out prostitution and the sex trade. A few do, for reasons of their own.
Given what the world is today, I can't fault a man for going down that road, but the trade has a corrupting effect on everything it touches, and I would wish men just shut these people out of their lives, stop debasing themselves. I've talked to enough sex trade addicts, it's not pleasant. I have my own vices so I'm not someone acting high and mighty.
For what it's worth, I wager most men who deal with prostitutes don't give up on ordinary women, and what you're describing is a small subset of men (which includes myself, except that I avoid too much contact with sex workers and would never meet in person). It shows the obvious things, that you're sexually vulnerable, that it's a sore spot, and that others can push you around without repercussions; also that you have a need for the approval of others, which triggers immediate hostility in some people.
I think a lot of this perception comes from the most vocal people being those who will attack someone for just about anything. Human behavior is pretty disgusting. Not all people, and not even all women, are going to think the same things about someone. It's getting harder to find good people and even the good ones are self-interested, and when someone's poor social station is internalized (as this society often inflicts on others) it's hard to not have that ruin friendships with those who aren't ********.
Then again many of the women who did date me in the past basically acknowledged that men are dogs and that it's not surprising; I filtered to avoid the kind of woman who is going to ruthlessly attack someone like me, which rules out a large swath of the population right away. I don't think most women are going to care so much about the act, as long as you're disease-free and you're not continuing to blow money on whores instead of maintaining a home (or her most likely, because this society is so god-damned ego-driven and encourages that sort of thing... is it any wonder that so many relationships are broken are most people aren't too happy with life?)
I think women would judge a man more if he was fool enough to admit he visited prostitutes, rather than the woman disapproving of the trade itself - though there are plenty of completely valid reasons to despite the sex trade in all of its forms, I don't think most women are willing to do what is really necessary to stamp out prostitution and the sex trade. A few do, for reasons of their own.
Given what the world is today, I can't fault a man for going down that road, but the trade has a corrupting effect on everything it touches, and I would wish men just shut these people out of their lives, stop debasing themselves. I've talked to enough sex trade addicts, it's not pleasant. I have my own vices so I'm not someone acting high and mighty.
For what it's worth, I wager most men who deal with prostitutes don't give up on ordinary women, and what you're describing is a small subset of men (which includes myself, except that I avoid too much contact with sex workers and would never meet in person). It shows the obvious things, that you're sexually vulnerable, that it's a sore spot, and that others can push you around without repercussions; also that you have a need for the approval of others, which triggers immediate hostility in some people.
I think a lot of this perception comes from the most vocal people being those who will attack someone for just about anything. Human behavior is pretty disgusting. Not all people, and not even all women, are going to think the same things about someone. It's getting harder to find good people and even the good ones are self-interested, and when someone's poor social station is internalized (as this society often inflicts on others) it's hard to not have that ruin friendships with those who aren't ********.
Then again many of the women who did date me in the past basically acknowledged that men are dogs and that it's not surprising; I filtered to avoid the kind of woman who is going to ruthlessly attack someone like me, which rules out a large swath of the population right away. I don't think most women are going to care so much about the act, as long as you're disease-free and you're not continuing to blow money on whores instead of maintaining a home (or her most likely, because this society is so god-damned ego-driven and encourages that sort of thing... is it any wonder that so many relationships are broken are most people aren't too happy with life?)
Sometimes
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Oh. Huh. I'll be thinking about this one for a while. I'm in knee-jerk territory with this one. But I think it's something to do with generations of women being forced into this profession as the only one left open to them, who really didn't want to.
TheSkaFish
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No matter how bad it gets and how bleak my dating outlook appears, I'd never consider a prostitute. And I'd only go to a strip club if it was for someone else, but never because it was my idea. Especially hiring a prostitute though. Personally, it would make me feel like, this is what I've sunk to - not even considering the STD concerns or the immorality of it. It would make me feel like this is concrete proof that I'm a loser. I'd feel like it is finally true that the other guys have muscled me out of the dating pool and into humiliation and defeat, I don't want to give them the satisfaction of having bested me.
I'm not a woman but if I did this stuff, I'd look down on myself.
I'm not a woman but if I did this stuff, I'd look down on myself.
To address the actual attention grabbing title of the thread since that's the reason everyone's coming here-
Women do not look down on men. On the contrary; women usually look up to them, literally.
You're welcome ALL. Now go be happy and don't whine about each other.
Women do not look down on men. On the contrary; women usually look up to them, literally.
You're welcome ALL. Now go be happy and don't whine about each other.
Sometimes
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Aisha said:
Well ok, but these answers are well thought out, and I'm getting an education here. Noone is being mean or slaggy. The issue of prostitution within society is a difficult one, from many angles.
there is no hope
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To be fair, people are trained to look down on people in general. Sex, and in particular sexual fear, is just one of the levers used to control and manipulate people. It's a disgusting arrangement, and after enough time destroying myself over it I'd rather cut it out of my life. Not one part of it has ever brought anything but ruin.
My general policy in dealing with women, now and back when I at least wanted to do something, was to treat every one like an isolated instance, and whatever I did outside of their presence must not interfere with whatever I have going. Why mention prostitutes unless you have to? I'd lie if asked, or better yet I'd stop interacting with whores and play off any past instances as stupidity best forgotten. There are real consequences to dealing with prostitutes, but what some woman thinks about it is not one of them.
Moral concerns aside, the whole business of the sex trade is one giant ripoff.
These days women make more money by being proud to rip off clients anyway. There's big money in financial domination, if a woman can hook a few desperate clients - and there is so much desperation, the job is easy with a little production quality and competence. (Most of these women have men behind them, who know what buttons to push in order to maximize profit.)
My general policy in dealing with women, now and back when I at least wanted to do something, was to treat every one like an isolated instance, and whatever I did outside of their presence must not interfere with whatever I have going. Why mention prostitutes unless you have to? I'd lie if asked, or better yet I'd stop interacting with whores and play off any past instances as stupidity best forgotten. There are real consequences to dealing with prostitutes, but what some woman thinks about it is not one of them.
Moral concerns aside, the whole business of the sex trade is one giant ripoff.
These days women make more money by being proud to rip off clients anyway. There's big money in financial domination, if a woman can hook a few desperate clients - and there is so much desperation, the job is easy with a little production quality and competence. (Most of these women have men behind them, who know what buttons to push in order to maximize profit.)
jzinsky
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Calling it now. This thread shall continue to page 6 despite OP being banned already
