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This is a thread where anyone can ask a question and we can all think about it and give our take on it. Any question is welcome, the deeper the better

If you can't answer any of the proposed questions, and just want to add another question that's perfectly alright, questions can be completely ignored and came back to at any time

Just remember to respect others opinions, it's alright to have back and forth exchanges, just keep it civilSmile

The first question I'd like to propose is:

Are there any universal moral truths?

And remember it can be completely ignored and any other topic brought up if you do so choose

Alright let's get this philosophical party startedBig Grin


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NeverMore Wrote:
This is a thread where anyone can ask a question and we can all think about it and give our take on it. Any question is welcome, the deeper the better

If you can't answer any of the proposed questions, and just want to add another question that's perfectly alright, questions can be completely ignored and came back to at any time

Just remember to respect others opinions, it's alright to have back and forth exchanges, just keep it civilSmile

The first question I'd like to propose is:

Are there any universal moral truths?

And remember it can be completely ignored and any other topic brought up if you do so choose

Alright let's get this philosophical party startedBig Grin


I dont belief there is any moral truths.....


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02-21-2008 05:23 AM
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Matt, this is scary, are you reading my mind?? I was just recently thinking about posting a thread with almost exactly the same title here! Seriously lol. And you're into microbiology! ^_-

Anyway great thread - i'll look forward to it.

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Are there any universal moral truths?


I'm going to have to come back to this - i gotta go for a bit.

But just quickly i can think of one universal moral truth; one that does not require adherence to any particular philosophy or religion. That being "do to others as you would have them do to you". Would you agree?

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NeverMore Wrote:
Are there any universal moral truths?


I'm going to have to come back to this - i gotta go for a bit.

But just quickly i can think of one universal moral truth; one that does not require adherence to any particular philosophy or religion. That being "do to others as you would have them do to you". Would you agree?

I stand corrected

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NeverMore Wrote:
Are there any universal moral truths?


I'm going to have to come back to this - i gotta go for a bit.

But just quickly i can think of one universal moral truth; one that does not require adherence to any particular philosophy or religion. That being "do to others as you would have them do to you". Would you agree?


hah I agree, great idea. I would of put it in the on - topic forum tho but if you wont it here that's fine.

Well, I don't agree that it would be very moral if the other person was to do harm to you in rob are beat you up. So err I don't know. Two wrongs don't make a right and all that?


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Matt, this is scary, are you reading my mind?? I was just recently thinking about posting a thread with almost exactly the same title here! Seriously lol. And you're into microbiology! ^_-

Anyway great thread - i'll look forward to it.


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I'm going to have to come back to this - i gotta go for a bit.

But just quickly i can think of one universal moral truth; one that does not require adherence to any particular philosophy or religion. That being "do to others as you would have them do to you". Would you agree?


Good one! I would agree that the world would be a lot better place if everyone adhered to it but...I don't think it's a universal moral truth, for this reason: Different people want to be treated differently. Take masochists for example, they like pain, they want others to give them pain, but of course no one else wants to be treated like that. I would say it's not moral to hurt people that don't want to be hurt, of course that subjective, but the mere fact that I can have a subjective opinion on it means that it can't be universal...Right?

People will always disagree about what's moral, the doctrine of moral/cultural relativism states:

There are no universal moral truths, only moral norms of different cultures

BUT just because we disagree about what's morally right doesn't mean that there are no moral truths

1.maybe one side is right, like for example:

Two cultures disagree about the shape of the Earth, one says it's flat, the other says it's round, obviously one is right one is wrong

Or

2.Both sides are wrongBig Grin

So I disagree about the doctrine of moral relativism, just because we disagree about moral truths doesn't necessarily mean they don't exist, maybe we just haven't thought of them yet?

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Why is it that the first few microseconds of a fart decide whether the rest of it will be loud or silent?

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OK.. a real one: Suppose your friend died, and his consciousness was downloaded into a robot. None of his original material (brain, blood, etc.) was transferred over, yet he reasoned and acted just like your friend. Would you consider him to still be your friend, or a mere copy? Would you feel that this robot was entitled to the same human rights as you and your deceased friend? If your daughter was brought back in a similar manner, would you really consider that she was back... or would a piece of you feel otherwise? Why?

In other words: is it simply the mind that defines who we are, or is the the entirety of our being? What does it mean to be human? Even our cells are constantly be recycled and replaced... so aren't our own bodies basically shells, in a sense?

For those of you into anime, you'll recognize this concept from the Ghost in the Shell series. I always thought it was a rather intriguing question...

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Why is it that the first few microseconds of a fart decide whether the rest of it will be loud or silent?


lol

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