RoberJW, u can't be serious...


the most decent guys are the guys who leave their family and run away with broads Atlantic apart...


..and go ahead..curse me out...but if thats ur definition of a decent guy..then I guess all the cheaters of the world fit the definition of saints these days.. lol

This post was last modified: 07-02-2008 07:15 AM by Incognita.

hallelujah


I personally think there are great guys...I think they are all taken off the meat market, usually those go fast.. lol

This post was last modified: 07-02-2008 07:20 AM by Incognita.

No decent guys, no decent girls? Have people changed for some reason or is it just harder to find them?

I would think that would be the minority of guys, they may just stand out more. Well actually the shallow is hard to speak to because it seems to be even more of a judgment call then the rest. Still i would like to add self-centered to the list.

I'm sure there's plenty of nice guys out there like that. I like to think of myself as one of them. It seems you'd have more success being a total jerk though. They always seem to have a girlfriend at their side.

Maybe good guys are just too polite to "hit" on girls?

This post was last modified: 07-02-2008 07:40 AM by Jeremi.

I think you are on to something here. I have seen the hound dogs go approach female after female.

Most guys simply don't care which girl they have by them, as long as it = sex.
I like to get to know the person. To do that you can't really hit on them... you'll scare most away unless you're a pickup artist.

Sadly you're both right, a lot of the time, nice guys do finish last. Given the choice, at first sight, I know most girls will go for the guy that has a bad boy edge, but will ultimately treat them like crap. I think that so many nice guys for this very reason lack the confidence to approach women in the first place.

I've come to think that my only hope in finding a girl who actually wants me is through finding friendship with them first, so they would get to appreciate the fact that I'm not an arsehole, like so many. I've really no confidence in that ever happening either but slim is better than no chance, right?

Well the thing is, with the whole sexual liberation thing, women have started to sell themselves short. Think about it. If women were not game for a one night stand, would this term even exist?

I grew up in a family full of decent men. So I am happy that that is the only thing that motivates me as far as men are concerned.

Another thing is, decent men do not roam the clubs and other spots looking for girls they can manipulate, but jerks do. Thus, you will meet a decent men in other spots.

I'm thinking that's the problem though... Any nice guy would worry about how to approach a girl, probably because you'd feel like you have all of 3 seconds to justify your existence as one of the "good ones"... But by approaching someone it automatically makes you feel like one the "bad ones"... Damned if I can talk to anybody in the outside world without a couple drinks in me... Then again, I'd never claim to be one of the "good ones", lol...

And the friendship thing is hard, because by the time you are close enough to take your relationship to the next step, you've got to ask yourself if it's worth losing that friendship over. I mean, if it doesn't work out its pretty hard to go back to being friends.

This myth, that girls like bad guys have been pumped in everyone's brains through crappy magazines articles which appear in men magazines. People, women DO NOT like jerks. Trust me. I am a woman.

Maybe young girls might find them exciting but mature women do not like bad boys.