Actually i mostly hear about the appeal of the "bad boys" from females. Now that you mention it, these females were mostly in there teens or twenty's.

I made one mistake in 40 years.................and I'm still paying for it

I just wanted to say that decent guys don't go jerking around, they focus on finding a long term girlfriend or getting married. My cousin is one of them. finished college, got a great job, at work he met this girl, dated her for like a year and married her. Now they have two beautiful kids.

These are places where you probably won't meet decent men:
Clubs
Bars
Pretty much any place where people are intoxicated
Any party that takes place after 11 pm
Internet dating sites

You might probably meet decent men at:
Volunteer spots
Bookstores
Workshops for hobbies, seminars
Computer game stores

Pick up artists go hunting for women at:
Self-help and esoteric section in the bookstores (cause they think women who visit these sections are needy and have low self esteem)
Clubs
Bars
Self-help groups
On the street
Late night parties
Internet dating sites
So avoid these spots like the pest... Or avoid the men who talk to you at these spots.

This post was last modified: 07-02-2008 08:04 PM by ClosetGeek.

Oh yeah, this is how you do it!

http://www.holytaco.com/2008/06/27/the-d...n-history/

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some guys? Makes me ashamed of being a guy myself. So many douchebags out there

ClosetGeek, great post ^^

This post was last modified: 07-02-2008 10:21 PM by Jeremi.

There aren't many guys that are going to say flat out that they're not a decent guy. I think I am, but that just puts me on a list of millions of other men that are going to say the exact same thing.

I don't expect women to believe anything I say. They've heard it before from someone else that was probably much more convincing than me.

All I ask is for someone to open her heart a little and let me prove myself.

I think people want so much more than they can admit to others, and maybe themselves. People may even have criteria consisting of components so fine that they can't even recognize them well enough to articulate them. Good guys and gals are great and all, but, ultimately, it comes down to an overall appealing combination of "good" and "bad" attributes. Good guys having the combination which satisfies the criteria of that woman looking for a good guy is not guaranteed.

Lately it has occurred to me that in spite of my good looks, the good girl I'll ultimately end up with will have to be one who can look past such negative attributes as Intermittent Strabismus. When I see others with a similar condition, albeit more severe cases of, I can understand or imagine what people think when they see my wandering star. She may have to look past such "negative" attributes as not having a strong career. She may have to look past my taciturnity, or the fact that I'm passionate about videogames, something that many adults probably consider childish. That nice girl may even have to look past my shyness, and take the bold step that will get us meeting for more than mere "hi & byes".

And what will I have to look past? What will I have to accept about her in order to go on and be happy with her?

I have faith that I'll find her, as I have experienced love on both ends, I have had other opportunities, and I can FEEL that love is in my deck of cards.

Don't forget Wal-Mart, lol... A couple years back they did a survey and that was the #1 place to meet women out here...

What about placers like a lonely life forums? lol Do men only come here cos they think they well fined venerable women or is it too a good place to meet a good guy?

I purposefully left Wal-Mart out cause the PUAs and the Bad Boy books tell you to pick up women at malls.
Like this jerk over here does:

http://www.amazon.com/Manual-Explains-Th...510&sr=1-1

That's a very real thing all of us have to deal with. In a relationship both people will have to accept certain things about the other. They can be small things (like he likes to play videogames alot) or big things (she already has kids and doesn't want any more). It's really complicated to sort out what can be tolerated and what can't; it's all relative. Maybe I will tolerate things that other guys would break up over, and maybe other guys will tolerate things I would immediatly say no to. Perfection is the one thing you cannot find in a person.