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Aardra said:
Baffling. There are millions of "average-looking" women out there who would be happy to have mgill's attention but like most men who complain about their own inceldom, the entitlement is strong and restrictions self-imposed.

I don't think mgill has ever said what type of woman he's looking for. I definitely don't remember him ever saying anything like "hot girls only". So I'm going to have to say that calling him "entitled" is inaccurate.

Aardra said:
I'm not saying you need to settle or completely decimate your standards, but consider what portion of your difficulties is caused by the intangible phantom of bIoLoGiCaL pSyChOlOgY and what portion is caused by your own inflated expectations of women. If you think you're too short and average-looking, then go out and find a short, average-looking girl. You have NO IDEA how many lonely women there are out there. Like for real.

I'm glad you said the first part, at least you're not telling him he has to resign for settling or have no standards at all. But at the same time, I don't know that simply finding someone that has the same problems, or someone in one's own "league", is necessarily a good basis to build and sustain a connection.
 
Aardra said:
Baffling. There are millions of "average-looking" women out there who would be happy to have mgill's attention but like most men who complain about their own inceldom, the entitlement is strong and restrictions self-imposed.

I'm not saying you need to settle or completely decimate your standards, but consider what portion of your difficulties is caused by the intangible phantom of bIoLoGiCaL pSyChOlOgY and what portion is caused by your own inflated expectations of women. If you think you're too short and average-looking, then go out and find a short, average-looking girl. You have NO IDEA how many lonely women there are out there. Like for real.


Trouble is, even most short, average looking women are either already in relstionships, or looking to date "upwards", both literally and figuratively speaking.
 
Aardra said:
Baffling. There are millions of "average-looking" women out there who would be happy to have mgill's attention but like most men who complain about their own inceldom, the entitlement is strong and restrictions self-imposed.

I'm not saying you need to settle or completely decimate your standards, but consider what portion of your difficulties is caused by the intangible phantom of bIoLoGiCaL pSyChOlOgY and what portion is caused by your own inflated expectations of women. If you think you're too short and average-looking, then go out and find a short, average-looking girl. You have NO IDEA how many lonely women there are out there. Like for real.

i agree that it is indeed baffing that there are so many average looking, lonely women but have found that the vast majority of time they are single by choice because it is THEIR standards which are so unreasonable. the 4 sixes requirment for men is not such a popular meme for no reason.  i truly would love more than just about anything to be proven totally wrong about this but my many years of failure & rejection have done nothing but reinforce it.

as far as my standards, i would be more than satisfied with a women on my own looks level. as long as a women is fit & feminine i usually find her attractive and personally, i would much prefer a facially average women who is extremely fit over a stunning women with an average body.  being in such awesome physical shape myself i would consider women like this to be my looks match.

imo,  the problem comes in in that what women find attractive in men is entirely genetic-i.e. height, face & hair-while an average or below average looking women can have tremendous success if she put's the work in and get's in great physical shape. in fact, they don't even have to a have a hard body as being slim & fit is also extremely attractive to me. the transformation a women can make through proper diet & excercise is nothing short of miraculous. because most men are like me in finding them so attractive though, these women are very highly sought after so they almost always end up with a top 20% man. 

if things were as easy as you suggest, there would be far fewer lonely men & women in the world than there actually are. in my experience most women of any looks level would much prefer to either share a top male or remain single instead of lowering their standards & settling for a lesser male.  btw, i have also discovered that often times the shorter a women is, the taller she requires a man to be.  this may be because women do not compare their height to a man but instead compare men's height to other men.

for example,  i recall seeing a video clip of a famous 4'8 female gymnast on a talk show bragging about her 6'3 husband and ripping into "short" men like myself as being really creepy, pathetic and unattractive.  if one did not know it was real it would seem like a satire piece but it was not.  this is expecially ironic & hypocritical for women who claim to be all about the body positivity movement yet have no qualms about ridiculing short men about our lack of height while at the same time demanding that men do not judge women on their bodies.i think this virial video does a great job exposing the extreme double standard when it comes to this issue:


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EDIT: oh whoops sorry Jen I thought you said Fasces
 
TheRealCallie said:
Perhaps instead of turning this thread into another mgill thread, you should all post your faces, since you are so interested in being in this thread.  :)

i agree 100%
 
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ardour said:
Well whatever you do, don't observe what a women you aren't currently in a relationship with does. So creepy!
you minsunderstood-in both cases we were friends & we ran in the same circles so it's not as if i was stalking them.

I was joking about something Callie said -  as if observable reality were 'none of your business' and you weren't even allowed your own private thoughts about it.

got it-my bad & sorry i missed the sarcasm.


Invisibleguy said:
Well if you're struggling while looking completely fine then I won't even dare to try  :D

i'm not sure if you are speaking to me or not but even average men (though i do not consider myself as falling into this category) are having tremendous difficulty in the modern dating scene.



I'm not going to further derail the thread but yes, I was talking to you lol
 
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You don't remember me, but I was member of this forum some time ago ....
So I though leaving picture would be nice, just so people could have "memory of me".
I still "look the same" , but just "older".

PS. tnx for making me feel loved in past. ;)

Btw. I remember "TheRealCallie" , she was always soo nice and cool torwards me. She is awesome. ;)
I also remember "Richard_39", also really cool guy. He was super nice to me also. ;)
 
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