A recession is when your neighbor loses his job.
A depression is when you lose your job.
A recovery is when Joe Biden loses his job.
Ha! ha!
A depression is when you lose your job.
A recovery is when Joe Biden loses his job.
Ha! ha!
What is a recession / depression / recovery?
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The problem is, the next person in all likelihood won't be any better.
That's why I quit voting. I remember the Clinton years being pretty good, though I don't know how much of that we can attribute to him, or even his entire regime. But every president after that, hasn't been that great. We had Republicans (Bush 2), Democrats (Obama), Republicans again (Orange Jesus), and now Democrats again (Biden), and the result has always been the same - the middle class gets fresia(ed), and is worse off than it was 4 years before. Unless someone really interesting comes up, and really speaks to my interests, I'm not going to bother. It just feels like a sham.
This last presidential election, I didn't vote. I felt like it was between "business as usual"/"nothing will fundamentally change" aka the continued planned and controlled demolition of the middle class (Biden), vs driving the crazy train off a cliff and dynamiting the middle class to hell (Trump). I figured, it's not worth risking COVID for this honeysuckle.
It's like Republicans are the "offense" of the billionaires - they actively do what the rich want them to do, and fresia things up for the rest of us. One thing I will give them, though, is that at least they are honest about who they are, and what they're about - even if who they are and what they're about, is pretty shitty.
The Democrats are the billionaires' "defense" - their job is to be placeholders, to get in office and do nothing, and take up space to prevent someone who actually would do something to help the middle and working classes and go against the billionaires' plan, from being in a position of power.
They occasionally throw us a bone to seem progressive, but in a way that doesn't interfere with the demolition of the middle class. And also to act like they are doing something, to shut us up.
Then when we say "help us!" they're like, "golly gee, we'd love to, but those big mean Republicans won't let us! Thoughts and prayers!"
Or they'll say, "you should be grateful you have us in power, you could have had the Republicans instead!"
Or we'll be like, "help us!" and they'll just say "no, fresia you".
And both of their jobs is to divide and conquer, and give people the illusion of choice, to get caught up in identity politics, and pit the middle and working classes against each other and against themselves.
In China, you get the Communist Party or nothing - you get no choice.
In America, you get the Republicans or Democrats, but they are really just the bad cop/good cop, offense/defense of the Money Party - you don't get a real choice, but rather just the illusion of choice.
And people get caught up in the nonsense, as if either MAGA or Biden really cares about them, their interests, and making their lives better. I think I'll pass on getting used for someone else's agenda, and thrown away.
The politicians seem incompetent to us, the middle and working classes, because they don't help us.
But that whole train of thought starts from the assumption that their function and objective is to try to help us in the first place.
People don't realize that it's not like they are trying to help us and failing at it - they're not trying to help us at all.
They ARE very competent at what they are told and paid to do - helping the billionaires.
Until there's a third party that actually represents everyone else besides the rich, I can't see much real change happening. Why would they want to change it? It means less short-term profits for them and their masters. I know voting for the Republicans won't ever make sense for me, unless I somehow become rich, and selfish. But voting for Democrats is just the lesser of two evils. The problem is, it's still evil.
That's why I quit voting. I remember the Clinton years being pretty good, though I don't know how much of that we can attribute to him, or even his entire regime. But every president after that, hasn't been that great. We had Republicans (Bush 2), Democrats (Obama), Republicans again (Orange Jesus), and now Democrats again (Biden), and the result has always been the same - the middle class gets fresia(ed), and is worse off than it was 4 years before. Unless someone really interesting comes up, and really speaks to my interests, I'm not going to bother. It just feels like a sham.
This last presidential election, I didn't vote. I felt like it was between "business as usual"/"nothing will fundamentally change" aka the continued planned and controlled demolition of the middle class (Biden), vs driving the crazy train off a cliff and dynamiting the middle class to hell (Trump). I figured, it's not worth risking COVID for this honeysuckle.
It's like Republicans are the "offense" of the billionaires - they actively do what the rich want them to do, and fresia things up for the rest of us. One thing I will give them, though, is that at least they are honest about who they are, and what they're about - even if who they are and what they're about, is pretty shitty.
The Democrats are the billionaires' "defense" - their job is to be placeholders, to get in office and do nothing, and take up space to prevent someone who actually would do something to help the middle and working classes and go against the billionaires' plan, from being in a position of power.
They occasionally throw us a bone to seem progressive, but in a way that doesn't interfere with the demolition of the middle class. And also to act like they are doing something, to shut us up.
Then when we say "help us!" they're like, "golly gee, we'd love to, but those big mean Republicans won't let us! Thoughts and prayers!"
Or they'll say, "you should be grateful you have us in power, you could have had the Republicans instead!"
Or we'll be like, "help us!" and they'll just say "no, fresia you".
And both of their jobs is to divide and conquer, and give people the illusion of choice, to get caught up in identity politics, and pit the middle and working classes against each other and against themselves.
In China, you get the Communist Party or nothing - you get no choice.
In America, you get the Republicans or Democrats, but they are really just the bad cop/good cop, offense/defense of the Money Party - you don't get a real choice, but rather just the illusion of choice.
And people get caught up in the nonsense, as if either MAGA or Biden really cares about them, their interests, and making their lives better. I think I'll pass on getting used for someone else's agenda, and thrown away.
The politicians seem incompetent to us, the middle and working classes, because they don't help us.
But that whole train of thought starts from the assumption that their function and objective is to try to help us in the first place.
People don't realize that it's not like they are trying to help us and failing at it - they're not trying to help us at all.
They ARE very competent at what they are told and paid to do - helping the billionaires.
Until there's a third party that actually represents everyone else besides the rich, I can't see much real change happening. Why would they want to change it? It means less short-term profits for them and their masters. I know voting for the Republicans won't ever make sense for me, unless I somehow become rich, and selfish. But voting for Democrats is just the lesser of two evils. The problem is, it's still evil.
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There is always someone to react to any administration with disdain. There is no right way to run a government as any action will offend someone. The goal of office is to offend the least. If the offended are among the minority than the administration is doing as well as it can.
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TheSkaFish
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Where there's a will, there's a way: solar powered sex toys.
Good luck on cloudy days...
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From politics to sex toys. I guess that's natural. Either way you are screwed.
Exactly! I quit voting as well. I only vote for a candidate that I WANT. But, there hasn't been one for a very long time.
So, I was thinking that most people don't really understand what a $trillion really is. One $trillion, ten $trillion is all about the same. I pointed it out on here with visual aids a few times. But, it just got yawns. Most people just think it's a big number like a $billion. So, would anybody care or realize if the national deficit was $12 quadrillion or would that just be another big number that receives a yawn? I don't think people would really care. So, that's where we are headed. Nobody is passionate about fiscal responsibility
If you quit voting then how will the goverment know you are agains them? IMO, each voice of the minority matters. As the goverment see you exist and other people can also see they are not alone who are against.
If there is no candidate you like - can you vote for them all? It's what I used to do and drew suns or wrote smth nice(like "hell's waiting you all"))as well.
If there is no candidate you like - can you vote for them all? It's what I used to do and drew suns or wrote smth nice
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I so love hearing about people that can vote, don't. While felons pay all their taxes, but don't get to have that privilege of voting how it potentially gets spent. Such social warriors you all are. >overly dramatic slow clap<
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Appeals to emotion...
U.S. national debt is something like 25 trillion...
Stuff like that doesn't even make sense. Why fret about it.
U.S. national debt is something like 25 trillion...
Stuff like that doesn't even make sense. Why fret about it.
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I don't get the sarcasm.
It's kind of like how I was saying that we don't have a real choice here, but the illusion of choice, to give the illusion of freedom. It helps complete the picture, to have an illusion of privileges. The felons' illusion of privilege, of their illusion of choice, was taken away to make them feel like they lost something, and to make the rest of us feel like we have something to lose. As far as tax dollars went, again, we had both parties in office during the 2000s and 2010s, and lots were spent on war that some people surely didn't want, but they spent it anyway. It didn't matter what party was in office, the result was the same.
Like I was saying, in my life, I've seen both parties hold office, now multiple times, and the outcome is always the same - my quality of life gets worse. It got better throughout the '90s, slowed and stalled out in the '00s, crashed in 2008 with the recession, and has been getting worse every year since. This seems to match the condition of a lot of the middle and working class in the rest of the country. It makes me feel like it doesn't matter what party is in power. Sure, the Republicans are a little worse, but that doesn't mean the Democrats are good, they are just "less bad". They tend to hurt us less than the Republicans, but they still hurt us. Neither one actually helps. So I feel like neither one benefits my interests. If my only choice is between a Republican or an establishment Democrat, which is almost as bad, then I don't want either.
I would vote for someone who actually spoke to my issues and seemed serious about it. Bernie got my attention. In 2016 I voted for President, and I wrote him in, knowing that although he was not an option, I cast a vote for who I honestly wanted. But until someone else seems to be serious about wanting to fix things, there simply isn't anyone I want to have the job.
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You could always write yourself in. That speaks volumes. AND! If 200,000 or so others write you in you too could be earning $194,000 anually for raising your hand six times per year.
Nice thought. But, I'm not the popular type IRL.
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