My Christmas Tantrum~

My Christmas tantrum...

Ok, I saw a thread on here posted as who else loves Christmas or something like that.... so now I am here to ask, who else HATES Christmas as much as I do?

Christmas used to be fun, like 100 years ago... back when 'home made gifts' really meant something special.... not like today- if you do not spend a fortune on the receiver, people have become taken up by the commercialism of it all. when in fact families are fussing, bickering, and talking about the others behind their backs.
back biters, and re-gifting (although it can be nice to re-gift but not to the same person!)

The stores are impossible to go shopping for simple stuff like bread or milk.... or how about daily life stuff like soap, toothpaste, a shower curtain..forget it, you have to wait in line behind some ninny buying half the store, and then paying via CHECK! (who uses checks anymore)? and then they stand there and balance the thing before moving forward. but yet you cant say anything for fear of looking like an *******, when indeed all you are even there at the store in the first place is to buy a freaking shower curtain,and maybe a few little nik naks.
only to get in line and realize that you forgot the thing you actually came in for, and have to weigh the difference- do I get out of line to go get my forgotten item? and stand in line another 30 mins, or just forget it, go back home, and then get angry at the Christmas thing all over again...
Don't get me wrong.. I like a nice/good/fun time like anyone else. but all this happy happy joy joy is just a load of crap.

So for all those who go shopping, not just any shopping 'christmas shopping' and don't even get me started on Black Friday.... a whole new thread for that!!! but if you are one of those happy little buggy filling, laughing, cooking, entertaining, wine sipping, singing, gift giving Christmas loving smucks... Please, PLEASE remember, not all of us are a Christmas loving ninnies. I mean for me at least I am just a ninny.... and I hate Christmas.
and all the jolly singing happy folks that go with it.
********no offense intended********* but if you indeed are lucky enough to have a big family, that does the whole Christmas thing- please know that not everyone has a family, or even $ to have jolly meal- let alone a Christmas- feast, or anything else.

Ok, I'm done now......... can you tell I am a bit bitter about the holidays?

Nolife Princess said:

but if you are one of those happy little buggy filling, laughing, cooking, entertaining, wine sipping, singing, gift giving Christmas loving smucks...

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This exists in venues other than advertising campaigns ???

It's amazing how well to do peoples are out blowing dough on crap they don't need but god forbid they donate that time to a charitable cause.

In my family I once suggested that we don't exchange gifts. You shoulda seen the jaw drops!

Some families don't buy anything for Christmas yup. They just spend time together and eat a big dinner. Kind of like thanksgiving. My family wouldn't mind if I told them I didn't want to give/receive gifts. They do it with each other sometimes when times are bad.

Kamya, your family sounds like they have their priorities straight.

I don't have any feelings positive or negative for Christmas. Its a bit tighter on my pay schedule, but I get three payments instead of two for this month so its also an extra two thousand. It all works out.

I'm not generally fond of christmas, but I appreciate the days off. Work does get a lot faster around the holidays, with the christmas ad campaigns and whatnot, 'tho, so I guess it balances out. Don't have many fond childhood memories of the festivities, but I'm generally less bitter now of the whole season than I was before. Don't get me started on the Mammon worship...

And as Roguewave said, those wine-sipping happy-happy people only exist in ads.

I like the positive things about it that I can experience with people I'm really close to that would still appreciate the small things .the non monetary influenced things..but the negative..like you mentioned the stores. i HATE. it's disgusting to see so much greed and what not just because I need soda. I spent an hour in a line of 4 people at 12am last night just because i was thirsty!

I'm with you on every sentence there Nolife!

I was going to start a new thread and then saw this one so thought I'd have a whinge on here instead.

I hate Xmas - Bah Humbug! There I said it AND I used Xmas instead of Christmas.
For me, who never has a lot of money at the best of times Xmas just makes things a whole lot worse I have kids, luckily as we have never had much money they are happy to receive what they do get, but I feel AWFUL when they see what their cousins and friends get which has cost at least twice if not 3 or 4 times what I have spent on them, I am lucky my kids are not spoilt, and I love them. Its the whole commercialism of the whole thing, I always have to buy around 20+ gifts, 21 this year WITHOUT me, hubby and kids gifts, some years me and hubby don't give each other gifts at all when there is no money left. We set a strict budget per person and stick to it, if they don't like what they get...sorry but its tough, no-one ever complains so I guess I am doing something right, I do occasionally make gifts...
However I do have family (that's who the gifts are for) and we split our time between them. My mother is 65 and cooks a massive dinner for at least 6 to 10 people both Xmas day and boxing day, and we are always welcome both days. My MIL has been inviting herself to me for the last 6/7 years despite me being mildly disabled and expects me to cook for her - then the rest of the family come over and I have to cook for them too, it kills me, literally. This year I invited myself to hers as I really cannot do it this year, physically and I am about 99% sure she has booked us into a restaurant for dinner even though we said we can't afford it, it is now 'our' Xmas present, nice.

I am sick to death of all these ads on the TV, the 'wine-sipping happy-happy people' and all the divs on my Facebook who spend their entire existence trying to make their lives look like a TV ad - Yes, really they do, they think they ARE the people in the TV ad, is it me or is that not a bit sad? Just be yourself and do what you want to do not what some advertiser says you SHOULD be doing??

The shops here are a nightmare too, queue after queue in every shop and I can't queue! I can't stand still long enough cos I absolutely kills my back (its b*******, long story) and I just feel like screaming at everyone to hurry the fresia up! I want to go home!

Meant to be putting my tree up today, in years past I always put it up 1st December but my heart just isn't in it this year, the kids want it tho, so I will supervise (closely, my OCD won't let me just let them do it )

Ok, grumble over for now, I feel much better!

why would you hate people who enjoy christmas just cos you dont? It's true some people care more about the material things but that's not cos of christmas, that's just who they are and whether it's christmas or not, they would still be materialistic. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a holiday with your family and have some break once a year. Do you know anyone who doesnt have a meal or a family during christmas? if so, what have you done to help them? If being happy is a crime, what reason do we have to live in this world? At least those happy happy joy joy people you call crap are trying to spread some good vibes. If you are unhappy, dont hate happy people. I hope you'll have a wonderful christmas.

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and just to add, not everyone really care about money or how much a gift costs or if there's even a gift at all. and if you really hate that people get so caught up with the material things, then why bother about it? It's how they choose to live their lives. Also, there are two ways commercialism affects people, one encouraging them to spend as much. the other discouraging them to the point that they become bitter and their views clouded with bitterness that they miss out the beauty or the good stuff about a certain thing or even a holiday.

Preparing for the holidays is stressful- that's why I'm busier at this time of year than any other.

It doesn't seem fair to assume that Joe, at the head of the line with his checkbook, is especially happy or materialistic. After all, he's spending the money on the family members who invite themselves to his house. He's buying the food for family members he hasn't seen since last winter. He's getting stuff for the grandchildren, hoping it's the right stuff... because their parents are going to tell them they have to be nice about the gifts, even if they don't like them... and Joe would really like sincere smiles on their faces. He's remembering his brother's stepson is allergic to his "world-famous" stuffing, and he has to either try a substitute for some ingredient, or make another thing just for that boy. His wife is muttering that they forgot to grab some sort of present for their youngest daughter's new baby, but that she may not attend because her husband mentioned going to his family's house... in which case they should also be buying some packing material to put presents in the mail. They're feeling guilty because they hear the sigh of the person behind them in line as they shift their gallon of milk from one arm to the other, and look in annoyance at the unmanned express line register. Why hasn't the store opened that one? But Joe shrugs and smiles apologetically at the tired looking cashier as he writes the amount on the slip of paper. After all, he also had to stand in line and wait for the people ahead of him. That's just the way it goes. The only other option is to sit at home alone on the holiday, sending the family members elsewhere- and they would probably end up at a dozen other houses, rather than coming together, because Joe is the only one whose house is big enough to hold everybody, or maybe it's the only place that they all have in common. What, you want him to join ALL instead, so he can sigh over how great it would be to see his family, but he didn't want to inconvenience that one person in the back of the line who just wanted a shower curtain? And since his memory is no good, maybe he will hold up the line a minute to check his receipt, or scribble something in his little book. After all, the point of a checkbook is to make sure you always know how much is in that account, without getting online or calling some automated service, and if you put something off long enough to forget to do it, then the whole system fails.

Don't get me wrong, I totally understand how annoying and frustrating it is to be at the end of the line, wanting just one or two things. I just don't think it's fair to be upset with Joe over the fact that he's getting ready for the holidays.

My family doesn't do much, and by that I mean my mom, brother and myself. We don't get together with extended family at Christmas time because some of us don't get along very well. My mom hates fake people and I have an Aunt who's the biggest fake person you'd ever meet. Usually holidays with the family ends up in arguments and people storming out.

As for the more well off people, I understand that. My mom couldn't afford much but would always do as much as she could to give my brother and I a good Christmas. My boss is well off, and he spends a fortune on his kids buying them the most expensive gifts you could find. Must be nice, but hearing them brag about the expensive digital camera they got, that they will probably never use, kind of grinds the turkey. Especially when they have to bring said gift with them to show it off. Makes you hate the holidays. Really it's not how much you spend but the thought behind it, but when the more fortunate flaunt their wealth it boils the cranberry sauce.

Meh, with Christmas I just think who gives a crap if it's "commercialised"? It doesn't mean it has to be in your own heart.

Let the materialistic people give themselves a mental breakdown over their new OMGGADGET5000 priced at the gross GDP of Britain and simply enjoy everything else the season has to offer yourself regardless.

I like the emphasis placed on kindness and inclusion during the whole sort of run-up to the event. In my eyes, any kind of festivity that encourages people not to be colossal dickheads is a good thing

With presents, I've never seen the point of being sort of restrained. I think it's important to show the people in your family/friend circle that you cherish them.

At the same time though, it's not about the majesty of the gifts. I think it's understandable if finances are tight that people don't give gifts, as long as you see the people you're close to.

The difference is when you have a lot of cash (like a relative of mine, through a connection of his), but are so tight-fisted that you won't even buy presents for your family or bother to see them! (Again, like said relative). That's against what I think Christmas should be like.

If you want to argue about a calendar date that really is a whole load of commercialised bollocks (and about as non-inclusive as you can get), Valentine's Day would be a much more appropriate topic! Don't even get me started on that.

A whole day dedicated to forcing single and/or lonely people to watch happy couples exchanging gifts and engaging in steamy public displays of foreplay. Urgh. I'm already not looking forward to this year's XD

I love Christmas, it's my favourite holiday of the year eventhough I have some bad memories related to it.

I don't understand the problem with exchanging gifts. It doesn't have to be expensive or big, just get something for the ones you love and show them you care. It's only one day in the year, so why not put some effort in it?

I have no problem giving anyone gifts when I can afford it, when I am flush I like to treat people wher I can, I am not tight, but I can not and WILL not get myself into debt over gifts, that is NOT what Chrismas it about.

I don't hate anyone in particular, just the way it is now all about who has the biggest and best and the way those people force it down other peoples throats, what ever happened to modesty???

Live and let live, I don't want to spend my xmas like a tv ad, or them telling me how my christmas SHOULD be, and I don't hate the ones that follow it either, just think its a bit sad that they allow it to rule their lives like that, do what you want to do, not what you think everyone else thinks you should be doing or maybe they just don't know what they *want* to do cos they have been brainwashed by tv and movies

As long as I have a good day who gives a monkeys.....

i love giving people gifts. its a way of showing them i care.

floffyschneeman said:

why would you hate people who enjoy christmas just cos you dont? It's true some people care more about the material things but that's not cos of christmas, that's just who they are and whether it's christmas or not, they would still be materialistic. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a holiday with your family and have some break once a year. Do you know anyone who doesnt have a meal or a family during christmas? if so, what have you done to help them? If being happy is a crime, what reason do we have to live in this world? At least those happy happy joy joy people you call crap are trying to spread some good vibes. If you are unhappy, dont hate happy people. I hope you'll have a wonderful christmas.

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and just to add, not everyone really care about money or how much a gift costs or if there's even a gift at all. and if you really hate that people get so caught up with the material things, then why bother about it? It's how they choose to live their lives. Also, there are two ways commercialism affects people, one encouraging them to spend as much. the other discouraging them to the point that they become bitter and their views clouded with bitterness that they miss out the beauty or the good stuff about a certain thing or even a holiday.

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My O My.....

If you call 'happy-happy- people truly happy and oh so loving the most wonderful, fantastic, awesome Christmas holiday........ .... That just amazes me.... I am not sure where you are from. but here where I am from, and my own experience... MY own experience- folks are killing each other to get the 'last' on sale item, pushing, shoving, grabbing, and making shopping just an all around terrible experience, ALSO the families that *I* have been around, seen first hand, have all but been happy... yes they spend money, buy loads of gifts, go into dept, put on fake smiles, and then begrudge each and every gift they give, only to get pissed off because the gift they receive is not up to their standards and perhaps not as $$ as they may have spent on the receiving person.
Smiling in your face, and biting you in your back. again, this is MY experience , I am not saying EVERYONE acts like this (I should hope not) but for most part this is what I have seen and know about.. pathetic to me.. and yes it does piss me off all theses fake folks with their snobbery, gift giving all to make them selves look good, and yet it is all a bunch of fake bullshit.

And to answer your question regarding helping/donating- I most certainly do, actually to several organizations my favorite being the ASPCA! yup that's right.... I do feel happy to do what I can do. from my heart... with no expectations of any slap on the back, or what I can get back- as most of the great Christmas gift givers do.

So yeah, if you are one of those happy happy joy joy folks who love and go out and do for the Christmas holiday, go ahead.. thats great for you- but just know not everyone does it or even likes it... and hates being held up ina line all for the morons spending their last buck for a gift that will probably wind up either in a garbage bin, or somebody else gift.

all I want is to be able to go into walmart, or target, and buy a freaking SHOWER CURTAIN with out waiting in line for 45 mins because the 'smiths'- are all trying to keep up with the 'Jones'

Tata

Whether it's Christmas or not I just hate long line ups. Especially when you are only buying a few things and there is one or no express lanes open...that is annoying. Our super Walmart use to have self checkouts, then they pulled them out because Walmart said people don't use them...uh okay...right...not. Now they rarely if ever have a single express lane open, if they were going to take out the self checkouts they should always have an express lane open, always. I just really hating standing in a long line to buy a few items when the person in front of me has a cart full. Holiday or not.

Sorry kind of went off on a rant there.

Nolife Princess said:

My O My.....

If you call 'happy-happy- people truly happy and oh so loving the most wonderful, fantastic, awesome Christmas holiday........ .... That just amazes me.... I am not sure where you are from. but here where I am from, and my own experience... MY own experience- folks are killing each other to get the 'last' on sale item, pushing, shoving, grabbing, and making shopping just an all around terrible experience, ALSO the families that *I* have been around, seen first hand, have all but been happy... yes they spend money, buy loads of gifts, go into dept, put on fake smiles, and then begrudge each and every gift they give, only to get pissed off because the gift they receive is not up to their standards and perhaps not as $$ as they may have spent on the receiving person.
Smiling in your face, and biting you in your back. again, this is MY experience , I am not saying EVERYONE acts like this (I should hope not) but for most part this is what I have seen and know about.. pathetic to me.. and yes it does piss me off all theses fake folks with their snobbery, gift giving all to make them selves look good, and yet it is all a bunch of fake bullshit.

And to answer your question regarding helping/donating- I most certainly do, actually to several organizations my favorite being the ASPCA! yup that's right.... I do feel happy to do what I can do. from my heart... with no expectations of any slap on the back, or what I can get back- as most of the great Christmas gift givers do.

So yeah, if you are one of those happy happy joy joy folks who love and go out and do for the Christmas holiday, go ahead.. thats great for you- but just know not everyone does it or even likes it... and hates being held up ina line all for the morons spending their last buck for a gift that will probably wind up either in a garbage bin, or somebody else gift.

all I want is to be able to go into walmart, or target, and buy a freaking SHOWER CURTAIN with out waiting in line for 45 mins because the 'smiths'- are all trying to keep up with the 'Jones'

Tata

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Uhm, it's funny how you emphasize ''my own experience/my own views'' yet you seem always almost generalize. If the people you live with are like that, then you should hate those people and not christmas, cos christmas may seem something to some people who may live in different parts of the world and yes, there are other people from different parts of the world.


to answer your question, I get happy during christmas, it's nice to spend some time with my family even if we dont have gifts for each other, we basically just share a nice meal.

You probably should watch how you describe things or people. Those people who go crazy over looking good with buying the most expensive gifts even if they'd have to loan it are, as far as I know, people who aren't happy nor joyous during christmas. they can be called ''superficial'' people though, and like I have said, whether it's christmas or not, they will be superficial cos they are.

plus... we all hate long lines. It's not Santa's fault though.

floffyschneeman said:

Nolife Princess said:

My O My.....

If you call 'happy-happy- people truly happy and oh so loving the most wonderful, fantastic, awesome Christmas holiday........ .... That just amazes me.... I am not sure where you are from. but here where I am from, and my own experience... MY own experience- folks are killing each other to get the 'last' on sale item, pushing, shoving, grabbing, and making shopping just an all around terrible experience, ALSO the families that *I* have been around, seen first hand, have all but been happy... yes they spend money, buy loads of gifts, go into dept, put on fake smiles, and then begrudge each and every gift they give, only to get pissed off because the gift they receive is not up to their standards and perhaps not as $$ as they may have spent on the receiving person.
Smiling in your face, and biting you in your back. again, this is MY experience , I am not saying EVERYONE acts like this (I should hope not) but for most part this is what I have seen and know about.. pathetic to me.. and yes it does piss me off all theses fake folks with their snobbery, gift giving all to make them selves look good, and yet it is all a bunch of fake bullshit.

And to answer your question regarding helping/donating- I most certainly do, actually to several organizations my favorite being the ASPCA! yup that's right.... I do feel happy to do what I can do. from my heart... with no expectations of any slap on the back, or what I can get back- as most of the great Christmas gift givers do.

So yeah, if you are one of those happy happy joy joy folks who love and go out and do for the Christmas holiday, go ahead.. thats great for you- but just know not everyone does it or even likes it... and hates being held up ina line all for the morons spending their last buck for a gift that will probably wind up either in a garbage bin, or somebody else gift.

all I want is to be able to go into walmart, or target, and buy a freaking SHOWER CURTAIN with out waiting in line for 45 mins because the 'smiths'- are all trying to keep up with the 'Jones'

Tata

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Uhm, it's funny how you emphasize ''my own experience/my own views'' yet you seem always almost generalize. If the people you live with are like that, then you should hate those people and not christmas, cos christmas may seem something to some people who may live in different parts of the world and yes, there are other people from different parts of the world.


to answer your question, I get happy during christmas, it's nice to spend some time with my family even if we dont have gifts for each other, we basically just share a nice meal.

You probably should watch how you describe things or people. Those people who go crazy over looking good with buying the most expensive gifts even if they'd have to loan it are, as far as I know, people who aren't happy nor joyous during christmas. they can be called ''superficial'' people though, and like I have said, whether it's christmas or not, they will be superficial cos they are.

plus... we all hate long lines. It's not Santa's fault though.

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Look,
Bottom line is.... IS..... Christmas is NOT what it used to be, nothing for that fact is like it used to be. OK. and you are right nobody likes waiting in long lines. but in my opinion MY opinion MY idea, MY HEART- due to MY circumstances. Christmas is just not as great as folks make it out to be,, just a load of phoney crap, CRAP! and for most part, the folks putting on the dog, with all the praises are just full of BULL...crap. (

I love that YOU love Christmas. how wonderful for YOU. now go happy happy and joy joy.. please be happy, spend and buy gifts.. how lovely. still does not mean that ***I*** have to like it,or love it. and I hate hate all the crap that I must endure to GO BUY A SHOWER CURTAIN just because JOE is there breaking bank to make himself look good, all for saving face.
Ok, Im done.
BIG hug for you my sweet lovely dear.. enjoy your christmas. please ENJOY YOUR CHRISTMAS! YAAY YAAY YAAY FOR ALL THE CHRISTMAS CHEER!!!! see I am truly happy for you.

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TaaDaa!