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I generally find qualitative approaches more interesting than quantitative ones, so I'd have to pick the latter. I am fond of math and science, especially physics and cosmology, but they're not things I could do for more than an hour without feeling like a robot. While the former is more "practical," the latter is just as "useful" if personal growth is of any importance.
 
As I've got older I have become less interested in arts and humanities, I used to read a lot of History (studied it at uni) but now I'll casually read up on Astrophysics and Astronomy in my spare time. Its something that completey passed me by at school but I read "why does E=mc2 and why should I care" and as a layperson in that sort of stuff it blew my mind.

I think there's a finite amount of culture you can hunger for, I've listened to, watched and read a fair bit of culture and its rare I will see a new point of view or of something groundbreaking. More likely, I just see comparisons to something done before, where as science for me now seems a whole new plaything for me.
 
The Good Citizen said:
As I've got older I have become less interested in arts and humanities, I used to read a lot of History (studied it at uni) but now I'll casually read up on Astrophysics and Astronomy in my spare time. Its something that completey passed me by at school but I read "why does 3=mc2 and why should I care" and as a layperson in that sort of stuff it blew my mind.

I think there's a finite amount of culture you can hunger for, I've listened to, watched and read a fair bit of culture and its rare I will see a new point of view of soemthing groundbreaking, morelikely I just see comparisons to something done before, where as science for me now seems a whole new plaything for me.

It's interesting that you used those examples, because I had the opposite reaction. The lay stuff is definitely fun but very little like taking the subjects in class. Physics is more or less the same thing after a while (about 9 out of 10 articles published in physics journals are eventually shown to be incorrect and the ones that are correct are very minor discoveries), which is why I chose not to major in it. Neuroscience and bioengineering, on the other hand, are developing rapidly and probably the things to look out for if you're interested in exciting new discoveries in science.
 
Maybe its just an aversion to what I had to sit through at Uni then, although I find it easier to read history now when I do so out of choice rather than when I had to get an essay in!

I've seen a couple of documentaries on Neuroscience and bioengineering recently and it is fascinating stuff probably because I never delve to deeply into the real science behind it. I like the fact its grounded in the real world too. I'll reluctantly and loosely quote my mother "Your problem is all those sad emotional songs and films you spent your time with" maybe she is right, I think a lot of it has shaped my ideals of love and life to overly idealised levels, maybe it encouraged a belief in the hollywood ending where everything works out ok.

I think my interest in science recently is too leave that all behind a bit escape from my own escapism, so to speak. I like the fact its quantative and something you can try and grasp. But its just a matter of taste really, I will still have a book in my back pocket and a sad song on my Ipod. So I'd say both are areas of interest and shape both my empirical and artistic tastes.
 
I'm interested in art, literature and cinema though my studies are scientific. I do seem to have developed a bit of a disdain for some forms of "humanities" as of late, or rather how they are studied in modern society.

Even so, I try to remain objective and realise everything has merit. It's not so much the subjects actually, more the way society perceives people who follow certain academic routes.

Weirdly, I've always had a kind of innate connection with words and English language. I don't know if others feel it in the same way too? I'll try to explain it.

Ever since I was a small child, I've been able to spell really well. I used to get perfect scores on every spelling test almost through some sort of unusual intuition - I could just "do" it even without reading a huge amount.

Even now, I find I instinctively know suffixes for words in different tenses, even when I've never heard or used the word before. It's very rare that I spell something wrong (unless it's a typo or something of course! :D )

So it's weird that, in a way, I've gone against that natural talent to pursue science. But I just thought that following the scientific route:

1 - Would teach me practical skills. Call me crazy, but I just feel like if I ever needed to "survive", knowing the practical things that I do would be useful.

2 - Would make me feel I'm doing something worthwhile with my life by furthering or at least revering the knowledge of humanity.

3 - Would make me explore the world I live in to the fullest before my exit from it.

4 - Would hopefully earn me decent career options at the end of it all!


Which sort of brings me to what annoys me about arts and humanities in general: ironically, I am frequently looked down upon and sneered at by people who study subjects such as English, Politics and Art at a higher academic level.

I put in up to 23 hours a week lecture time, plus 15+ hours a week personal study time in order to learn my subject to an acceptable standard. It's a constant academic challenge and I don't get much of a social life.

However, for some reason people seem to view themselves as "more sophisticated" for pursuing arty courses. This obviously is not true of everyone, and there are some very friendly arts students out there!

But it does seem to be a recurring pattern that people see me as some kind of robot or uncultured tinkerer purely because I chose the practical above the artistic.

I constantly deal with a guy a friend of mine is dating, for example, who attends a University he considers more "prestigious" than mine. He is always telling me how long he spends in the library on his artistic degree.

The heavy inferrance is that I haven't done a day's "sophisticated" work in my life and I'm some sort of philistine for studying what I do.

Through sheer politeness, I refrain from stating that the only difference between us is that I could probably take his exams and pass with a week to look at the material...and he could study three or four years for mine and still be clueless! :rolleyes:




So, if all things were equal and there wasn't an odd sort of "perceived class issue" present with studying the sciences even to this day, I'd say that both the arts and sciences have equal weight. It is after all a combination of the two that makes us human in the first place! ;)

(And I do hope I haven't offended any Arts students here. I don't mean to make any sweeping generalisations at all).
 
hmm. good topic.
i vote for math, even though i study arts myself.
Solitary, i know what you mean about arts students having something against anything BUT humanities - never understood it, myself.
 
What interests me most about humanities is learning how to write better and increasing my vocabulary. I love literature, it's an art-form. You know, Horror, Fantasy, Poetry...there are things which I haven't gotten to yet.

So much to read so little time. :)

Everything can go into a story, science, history, math, psychology, sociology...so many things. Writing can be as abstract as a painting, or as clear as dick and jane. You just need to go beyond the mainstream if you get bored.

I'm 23 like you are Flaneur.


 
I'm a religion minor majoring in psychology, who studies literature and philosophy in her free time.
 
TheSolitaryMan said:
I'm interested in art, literature and cinema though my studies are scientific. I do seem to have developed a bit of a disdain for some forms of "humanities" as of late, or rather how they are studied in modern society.

Even so, I try to remain objective and realise everything has merit. It's not so much the subjects actually, more the way society perceives people who follow certain academic routes.

Weirdly, I've always had a kind of innate connection with words and English language. I don't know if others feel it in the same way too? I'll try to explain it.

Ever since I was a small child, I've been able to spell really well. I used to get perfect scores on every spelling test almost through some sort of unusual intuition - I could just "do" it even without reading a huge amount.

Even now, I find I instinctively know suffixes for words in different tenses, even when I've never heard or used the word before. It's very rare that I spell something wrong (unless it's a typo or something of course! :D )

So it's weird that, in a way, I've gone against that natural talent to pursue science. But I just thought that following the scientific route:

1 - Would teach me practical skills. Call me crazy, but I just feel like if I ever needed to "survive", knowing the practical things that I do would be useful.

2 - Would make me feel I'm doing something worthwhile with my life by furthering or at least revering the knowledge of humanity.

3 - Would make me explore the world I live in to the fullest before my exit from it.

4 - Would hopefully earn me decent career options at the end of it all!


Which sort of brings me to what annoys me about arts and humanities in general: ironically, I am frequently looked down upon and sneered at by people who study subjects such as English, Politics and Art at a higher academic level.

I put in up to 23 hours a week lecture time, plus 15+ hours a week personal study time in order to learn my subject to an acceptable standard. It's a constant academic challenge and I don't get much of a social life.

However, for some reason people seem to view themselves as "more sophisticated" for pursuing arty courses. This obviously is not true of everyone, and there are some very friendly arts students out there!

But it does seem to be a recurring pattern that people see me as some kind of robot or uncultured tinkerer purely because I chose the practical above the artistic.

I constantly deal with a guy a friend of mine is dating, for example, who attends a University he considers more "prestigious" than mine. He is always telling me how long he spends in the library on his artistic degree.

The heavy inferrance is that I haven't done a day's "sophisticated" work in my life and I'm some sort of philistine for studying what I do.

Through sheer politeness, I refrain from stating that the only difference between us is that I could probably take his exams and pass with a week to look at the material...and he could study three or four years for mine and still be clueless! :rolleyes:




So, if all things were equal and there wasn't an odd sort of "perceived class issue" present with studying the sciences even to this day, I'd say that both the arts and sciences have equal weight. It is after all a combination of the two that makes us human in the first place! ;)

(And I do hope I haven't offended any Arts students here. I don't mean to make any sweeping generalisations at all).




Nice attitude there. I'll allow it though, since you apologised in advance :p

It's funny, because I've experienced the things you described, but the other way around. There are so many arrogant science students at my university, more than you could ever imagine. They think they know everything and that their precious scientific method can provide us with all the answers to life's important questions. This line of thinking usually leads to them becoming narrowminded specialists, unfortunately.

As a historian I try keep an open mind and broad interests, it's what we are trained to do.

 
I used to love science, still do and also think its horribly underrated. I mean why the f... I have to see celebrities in the news when I could be informed about the constant advanceds in science? Wouldnt that be more valuable? I know the answer...

But getting on topic... as the years went by I kept turning more and more towards art. Science got a bit too cold for me. I find more meaning in life through art than in science.
 

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