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Horrible...

It's sad when this seems to be a common occurrance. It just..doesn't surprise me when this stuff happens anymore and obviously that's twisted. It shouldn't be like this. Those poor people.
 
People are just "Snapping" these days. High food prices, addiction, bullying, broken hearts, disease, racism, terrorism, child molestation, animal cruelty, and many, many other negatives.

Nobody trusts anyone anymore. I realize that the above examples are constants through time, but they are getting worse and more frequent, and we are too Goddamn blind to it. We are playing a dangerous game with life people, and eventually, we are going to lose.
 
Most people have already accepted that we'll wipe eachother out eventually. I like to think that anyway. Seeing as no one with any power does much about much.
 
The world is not ending.

The world is not getting worse. I think it has gotten better with the implementation of the United Nations.

Please talk to Hitler or Vlad the impaler.

We need to spend more money on our Mental Health system. IT sucks. Big time. We should not be sending people to GP for psychiatric meds. We should have better treatment for those with mental disorders.

Let's stop talking about guns and talk more about the decrepit nature of our mental health system.
 
SophiaGrace said:
The world is not ending.

The world is not getting worse. I think it has gotten better with the implementation of the United Nations.

Please talk to Hitler or Vlad the impaler.

We need to spend more money on our Mental Health system. IT sucks. Big time. We should not be sending people to GP for psychiatric meds. We should have better treatment for those with mental disorders.

Let's stop talking about guns and talk more about the decrepit nature of our mental health system.
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I respectfully disagree Sophia. The world is getting worse. Back in the 50's for example. There were plenty of jobs available, you could walk down the street at night without having to look over your shoulder all the time, deals were made with a handshake. And were honored. These days, you can't trust anyone. Especially online. New and more dangerous drugs are available today that weren't in the 50's. The crime rate has soared, lots of things.

Most of all, we have the internet now. It's a wonderful thing and lots of fun. I does a lot of good, but is also capable of horrendous things. It gives you the power to buy prescription drugs illegally. Which takes business away from street dealers.(Not such a bad thing there I guess.) People steal your identity/credit card numbers to gamble online, etc.

Child porn runs rampant, financial scams, terrorist websites, sites that give you instructions on how to make bombs, snuff videos that terrify others. I used to watch "Shock Sites". I can promise you this. You see a beheading video online, and you will never forget it. Believe me, I know. I'm 37yo and still can't drive that memory out of my mind. It was too brutal and real. Can you imagine a 12yo seeing someone having their head sawed off!? People can hack into almost any kind of information base and use it to corrupt things and potentially ruin someone's life.

I'm not saying that crime and such wasn't around in the 50's. It's just that today, the net has the potential to turn this world upside down. Even more than it currently is. Personally, I believe the internet is going to be partially, if not fully responsible for the end of the world.
 
I heard somewhere, that the world hasn't gotten worse over the years, we're just more able to hear about it globally and whatnot with media now.
 
Parabolani said:
why?
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Do you mean why I think the net is going to be partially, or fully responsible for the end of the world?

EDIT: Ignore my above question. It was stupid.

Before I begin, I just want you to know that this is just my opinion on the matter. It's not carved in stone.

Computers do what you tell them to. And criminals ARE telling the computers what to do. It's impossible for the authorities to even stand a chance against all the crime. You shut down "Kiddy Porn" sites, a bunch more pop up. Identity theft is very serious as well.

It's my firm belief that their is no such thing as safety online. I've had countless people tell me how safe some sites are. An old administrator of a previous forum I was on, used one of his credit cards on EBAY to buy video games. Not 2 weeks later, the remaining 5 credit cards he owned were frauded.

Some people who are so good with computers, such as hackers pose a huge threat. That's why the government hires them to work for them in efforts to level the playing field. I don't like to say this about some people. Present company accepted, there are so many gullible people out there who get ripped off by internet scams it isn't funny.

The reason I believe the internet is going to be partially, if not fully responsible for the end of the world, is because there is no way that authorities can keep up with cyber crime. It's just too much to stop. And again, a little power can corrupt a person.

It's like trying to sweep sand off a beach. Criminals know this all too well. The way I look at it is like cyber-crime is a huge tsunami heading for land that is increasing in size with every yard closer to land it gets, which in turn only increases it's power and destruction overwhelming the land, and it's high walls to help defend against it.

Hackers, and most other people who get a taste for power, crave it and want more. It then corrupts them causing abuse of their power.
It becomes an addiction. They can become cocky and feel that nothing can stop them.

With your social insurance number alone, they can turn your life upside down in a matter of hours. This kind of activity in my opinion, is getting stronger and more frequent. You never really know who you are dealing with. This forum has my e-mail address and can trace my IP address. What if I'm using a phantom address? What if I have a host that helps me? You never know.

All I'm saying is that this power one has can and does corrupt so many people. Power given or learned by people can corrupt them.
Because the authorities cannot contain internet crime fully, more criminals are getting involved. Eventually, I believe that this will lead to a breakdown of society. There is just no way in hell, authorities can keep up. There are far more criminals in the world than there is law enforcement. This will only breed more and more online criminal activity, to the point where nobody can stop it. I know this must sound insane, but it's just my take on the subject.

When this happens, lights out. It will be utter chaos.
 
LoneKiller said:
People are just "Snapping" these days. High food prices, addiction, bullying, broken hearts, disease, racism, terrorism, child molestation, animal cruelty, and many, many other negatives.
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LoneKiller said:
Back in the 50's for example. There were plenty of jobs available, you could walk down the street at night without having to look over your shoulder all the time, deals were made with a handshake.
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The thing is the 1950’s still had high food prices, addiction, bullying, broken hearts, disease, racism, terrorism, child molestation, animal cruelty, and many, many other negatives. These traits aren’t new to the human race, terrible yes but they’ve been around for a very long time.

I can see what you’re trying to say, there is a lot of nonsense going on in the world but as another poster pointed out things aren’t necessarily getting worse but more that we as a society are just getting to learn more about it through the media and growing communications. Crime has always been around, be it stolen details online or stolen books and ledgers before then but for the most part society learns to cope and adapt (both good and bad) otherwise we’d be giving up the second something does go wrong. Computers are the modern day lockpicks and forged documents but they’ve also allowed so much more (the fact that a group of people all over the world can sit at home and talk with each other for example) that the pros outweigh the cons.

The world isn’t changing, its just getting smaller.
 
I've listened for the last 24 hours to the anti-gun, anti-2nd amendment crowd go on about how the problem is guns.

People, the problem is not guns.

You can't blame the mechanism chosen.

If a person is intent upon committing an attrocity, there is very little or nothing you can do to stop it.

That is a problem of the heart, a problem of the mind, a problem of the soul.

It has very little to do with the tactic chosen.

In a dozen minutes, I could think of as many ways to kill all those people (and more) that guns would not be needed for.

Supersoaker with gas and a match?

Cyanide in the popcorn butter?

Bunch of pipe bombs?

High-speed crossbow?

Buckets of acid?

Chainsaw?

The problem with going on an anti-gun rant is that it does a disservice to helping the real problem.

You simply can not prevent all acts of evil from occurring.

That is the lesson to learn here, that life is fragile and that despite out best attempts, honeysuckle is going to happen, so you better be good with God or with the Spaghetti Monster because your day is coming and you likely will not get a warning when it arrives.

The focus instead needs to be on screening and support for people with mental illness, programs to intervene early with those that are troubled, lonely, depressed, or display mental difficulties. Building a society that actually values and cherishes all human life to rebuild a culture of respect, decency, and humanity toward one another.

Short of making people "care" about their fellow man again, no ban, NONE, will ever stop an attrocity like this from occuring.

There have always been guns, but there haven't always been things like this. Not at the level and frequency that we see them unfolding in our world nowadays.

Also, if there were three to four highly-trained civilians carrying concealed weapons in that theater, chances are that one of them might have been able to get off a head shot, or at least spook him with bullets flying at him, while somebody else tackled his ass.

Guns may have HELPED in this attrocity.
 
Who knows what the motive behind this was. I don't think the guy just 'snapped'. If so, this obviously is not the answer.
It was all planned out. What a sick fresia. I can tell he was inspired by some video game or movie. It sounds very similar to this movie "Rampage" I watched on netflix before. This isn't anything new, but it's still disturbing.

Trent said:
I've listened for the last 24 hours to the anti-gun, anti-2nd amendment crowd go on about how the problem is guns.

People, the problem is not guns.

You can't blame the mechanism chosen.

If a person is intent upon committing an attrocity, there is very little or nothing you can do to stop it.

That is a problem of the heart, a problem of the mind, a problem of the soul.

It has very little to do with the tactic chosen.

In a dozen minutes, I could think of as many ways to kill all those people (and more) that guns would not be needed for.

Supersoaker with gas and a match?

Cyanide in the popcorn butter?

Bunch of pipe bombs?

High-speed crossbow?

Buckets of acid?

Chainsaw?

The problem with going on an anti-gun rant is that it does a disservice to helping the real problem.

You simply can not prevent all acts of evil from occurring.

That is the lesson to learn here, that life is fragile and that despite out best attempts, honeysuckle is going to happen, so you better be good with God or with the Spaghetti Monster because your day is coming and you likely will not get a warning when it arrives.

The focus instead needs to be on screening and support for people with mental illness, programs to intervene early with those that are troubled, lonely, depressed, or display mental difficulties. Building a society that actually values and cherishes all human life to rebuild a culture of respect, decency, and humanity toward one another.

Short of making people "care" about their fellow man again, no ban, NONE, will ever stop an attrocity like this from occuring.

There have always been guns, but there haven't always been things like this. Not at the level and frequency that we see them unfolding in our world nowadays.

Also, if there were three to four highly-trained civilians carrying concealed weapons in that theater, chances are that one of them might have been able to get off a head shot, or at least spook him with bullets flying at him, while somebody else tackled his ass.

Guns may have HELPED in this attrocity.
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I agree. The anti-2nd amendment people continue to blame guns when that's not the issue. There are plenty of other ways of killing off many like you mentioned. Let's just face it...There are a lot of sick people out there...Like...really demented and twisted people. Sometimes we can prevent their atrocities and sometimes we can't. That's reality, and it's a dangerous world.
 
Trent said:
I've listened for the last 24 hours to the anti-gun, anti-2nd amendment crowd go on about how the problem is guns.

People, the problem is not guns.

You can't blame the mechanism chosen.

If a person is intent upon committing an attrocity, there is very little or nothing you can do to stop it.

That is a problem of the heart, a problem of the mind, a problem of the soul.

It has very little to do with the tactic chosen.

In a dozen minutes, I could think of as many ways to kill all those people (and more) that guns would not be needed for.

Supersoaker with gas and a match?

Cyanide in the popcorn butter?

Bunch of pipe bombs?

High-speed crossbow?

Buckets of acid?

Chainsaw?

The problem with going on an anti-gun rant is that it does a disservice to helping the real problem.

You simply can not prevent all acts of evil from occurring.

That is the lesson to learn here, that life is fragile and that despite out best attempts, honeysuckle is going to happen, so you better be good with God or with the Spaghetti Monster because your day is coming and you likely will not get a warning when it arrives.

The focus instead needs to be on screening and support for people with mental illness, programs to intervene early with those that are troubled, lonely, depressed, or display mental difficulties. Building a society that actually values and cherishes all human life to rebuild a culture of respect, decency, and humanity toward one another.

Short of making people "care" about their fellow man again, no ban, NONE, will ever stop an attrocity like this from occuring.

There have always been guns, but there haven't always been things like this. Not at the level and frequency that we see them unfolding in our world nowadays.

Also, if there were three to four highly-trained civilians carrying concealed weapons in that theater, chances are that one of them might have been able to get off a head shot, or at least spook him with bullets flying at him, while somebody else tackled his ass.

Guns may have HELPED in this attrocity.
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So you agree with me. Great.
 
Now the media is reporting him as "shy" and "a loner" in High School, College, and his personal life.

Just because someone is a loner, and shy, does not make him/her a crazed serial killer. Let the stereotyping begin! :rolleyes:
 
Yes, it will be interesting to see what the real motive or reason was. I see bits and pieces of people saying it has to do with mental illness being the reason, not guns or weapons the issue. I agree. So I'll go ahead and say that any person who does a crime like that is a victim in some way themselves. A victim of what, is where we just don't know. And I am not saying someone has to be abused to be a victim either... just to clarify that.
 
I don't know what the solution is, because I don't know what the problem was. Obviously he was mentally disturbed, but by what, I don't know.

I go over to the incel forums, and I read all about how it probably was the lack of sex and a girlfriend that led him to this. I go to an anti-gun site, and I read articles on how it was the fact that he was obsessed with guns that led him to do this.

People, people. This is projection. We see our own flaws, and we project them on this dude. The answer is that it was all of them, and none of them. Maybe he was sexually frustrated? Maybe he was lonely? Maybe he had been bullied? Maybe he was Bipolar?

honeysuckle, I am sexually frustrated, lonely at times, have been bullied (even up to now), and am Bipolar (treated, though.) I have no desire to shoot anybody. If you want to blame it on violent porn, or violent video games, or violent movies and music, guess what? I am into BDSM, love Marilyn Manson and death metal, and love Stephen King and horror movies. I am as anti-gun as can be possible, and consider myself a pacifist. Try that on for size!

I know some fucktard is going to blame this on the Batman movie. Batman didn't cause this guy to go crazy. Even Heath Ledger's Joker, which I understand he dressed himself up as, didn't inspire him to kill anybody. The only person responsible for shooting 71 people in a movie theater is the person who was holding the guns.
 
Unwanted94 said:
Who knows what the motive behind this was. I don't think the guy just 'snapped'. If so, this obviously is not the answer.
It was all planned out. What a sick fresia. I can tell he was inspired by some video game or movie. It sounds very similar to this movie "Rampage" I watched on netflix before. This isn't anything new, but it's still disturbing.


His favorite video game was Guitar Hero dude.
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