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I have never been a pretty girl or attractive in mens' eyes. while growing up have met some men telling me i was not attractive etc...

Men never paid me attention or looked at me. these has led me wanting to be a prostitute or wanting to get raped.

Why a prostitute? To show at least i have some worth at least. i do not find it degrading tbh. I do not mind being treated like a sex object.

Anyone feel like that?
 
Not at all actually, and I've never had any attention from men either.

You seem to only seek worth though your sexuality. Why is that?
 
DisturbedHell said:
I have never been a pretty girl or attractive in mens' eyes. while growing up have met some men telling me i was not attractive etc...

Men never paid me attention or looked at me. these has led me wanting to be a prostitute or wanting to get raped.

Why a prostitute? To show at least i have some worth at least. i do not find it degrading tbh. I do not mind being treated like a sex object.

Anyone feel like that?

Do you think being raped or a prostitute gives you worth? You sound very frustrated, but I find it hard to believe that you are not attractive to someone. Could it be your not seeing the whole picture?
 
murmi97 said:
Not at all actually, and I've never had any attention from men either.

You seem to only seek worth though your sexuality. Why is that?

because i also do not know how to put it. for me life is about looks and figure only. it is my past and lack of attention from men i guess. Because of my past. don't get it wrong.. it is not about sexual abuse..


Naleena said:
DisturbedHell said:
I have never been a pretty girl or attractive in mens' eyes. while growing up have met some men telling me i was not attractive etc...

Men never paid me attention or looked at me. these has led me wanting to be a prostitute or wanting to get raped.

Why a prostitute? To show at least i have some worth at least. i do not find it degrading tbh. I do not mind being treated like a sex object.

Anyone feel like that?

Do you think being raped or a prostitute gives you worth? You sound very frustrated, but I find it hard to believe that you are not attractive to someone. Could it be your not seeing the whole picture?

well.. rape aside... a men must find her pretty only will he want to have sex with her. to pay her for it it means something else. i mean why would you pay an ugly woman to have sex? even if she gives foc chances are he would not want to.. it is about self worth too..
 
DisturbedHell said:
well.. rape aside... a men must find her pretty only will he want to have sex with her. to pay her for it it means something else. i mean why would you pay an ugly woman to have sex? even if she gives foc chances are he would not want to.. it is about self worth too..

Babygirl, when they roll over, put the money on the table and leave...you are still left all alone. It won't change how you feel about yourself. Ugly is a value judgement. Some men think I'm attractive and I'm sure there are those that think Im a dog. It's that way for all of us. I'm not buying that no men find you attractive. Just because a man will have sex with you doesn't mean he will give a honeysuckle about you afterward. I don't think being a prostitute will do anything for anyone except fill thier pocket and leave them lonely for something real. I hope you can start to see your inner beauty and that will help you to see your beauty on the outside. We teach people how to treat us. I hope you start to feel better about yourself.
 
Feeling this way is the wrong way to feel, in my opinion. It seems self-destructive. I'm a guy and I can honestly say that most men are stupid pigs. Your self-worth should come from within, not from other people's opinions of you. You may have been ignored for all the wrong reasons, but perhaps it was for the best. You may have been spared from a jerk that only cares about sex. A genuinely nice person, be it a man or a woman, seeks friendship and more based on character and personality first and foremost.
 
rape is not about desire/attraction. it's about power, control and possibly sadism.
 
DisturbedHell said:
well.. rape aside... a men must find her pretty only will he want to have sex with her. to pay her for it it means something else. i mean why would you pay an ugly woman to have sex? even if she gives foc chances are he would not want to.. it is about self worth too..

Hi Disturbed and I'm really sorry you feel this way (it sounds strange saying it, when I'm usually the one getting it). Well, you are wrong, and aside from the chances when a guy gets lucky and ends up with a pretty prostitute (that can happen I guess) or hires a pricey "escort", paid-sex always happens only to quench lust and nothing else. It is never about attraction, as long as you aren't having mutual sex with a partner and it isn't full of passion.

And when it is rape, again, it is never about attraction either. It is when a guy gets horny out of his mind and again, it is all about the sex (the guy doesn't care who he's having sex with, the repercussions, etc. I guess). I'm talking here like I'm some expert on these topics but I'm not. I just keep thinking about why a guy would want to do something like that to women and no right guy, in his sane mind, would do it, believe me.

Let me give you a stupid example from my life. There this woman that I know who's really, really ugly (I know I shouldn't say this about people but just for the sake of this discussion...). And I really wanna have sex with her! Why? Not because I find her attractive (not in a million years) but because I have a very low self-esteem and I can feel like she'd be easy for me (she starts acting slutty around me), or because I feel like I cannot be with pretty girls. So for me, it is all about sex.

I'm not sure if I'm helping here but don't take any drastic steps, I guess?

xaero said:
I'm a guy and I can honestly say that most men are stupid pigs.

Well done representing the male kind! :p
 
DisturbedHell said:
well.. rape aside... a men must find her pretty only will he want to have sex with her. to pay her for it it means something else. i mean why would you pay an ugly woman to have sex? even if she gives foc chances are he would not want to.. it is about self worth too..

Not necessarily. It's not all about looks and not all guys go for "pretty" girls. It is not only about physical looks and appearance to want to have sex. A girl may not be "prettier" than the other girl but her sex appeal could be way way more attractive.

I'm not sure how else to explain this cos I suck at explaining but I hope you get my point. It's not just superficial.
 
I haven't felt like that before. But I have had some more extreme thoughts out of wanting to be more liked by Girls.
 
Naleena said:
DisturbedHell said:
well.. rape aside... a men must find her pretty only will he want to have sex with her. to pay her for it it means something else. i mean why would you pay an ugly woman to have sex? even if she gives foc chances are he would not want to.. it is about self worth too..

Babygirl, when they roll over, put the money on the table and leave...you are still left all alone. It won't change how you feel about yourself. Ugly is a value judgement. Some men think I'm attractive and I'm sure there are those that think Im a dog. It's that way for all of us. I'm not buying that no men find you attractive. Just because a man will have sex with you doesn't mean he will give a honeysuckle about you afterward. I don't think being a prostitute will do anything for anyone except fill thier pocket and leave them lonely for something real. I hope you can start to see your inner beauty and that will help you to see your beauty on the outside. We teach people how to treat us. I hope you start to feel better about yourself.


well at least i am paid. i am worth something you see... i do not really care for others.. it is just screwed up...


SomeoneSomewhere said:
DisturbedHell said:
well.. rape aside... a men must find her pretty only will he want to have sex with her. to pay her for it it means something else. i mean why would you pay an ugly woman to have sex? even if she gives foc chances are he would not want to.. it is about self worth too..

Hi Disturbed and I'm really sorry you feel this way (it sounds strange saying it, when I'm usually the one getting it). Well, you are wrong, and aside from the chances when a guy gets lucky and ends up with a pretty prostitute (that can happen I guess) or hires a pricey "escort", paid-sex always happens only to quench lust and nothing else. It is never about attraction, as long as you aren't having mutual sex with a partner and it isn't full of passion.

And when it is rape, again, it is never about attraction either. It is when a guy gets horny out of his mind and again, it is all about the sex (the guy doesn't care who he's having sex with, the repercussions, etc. I guess). I'm talking here like I'm some expert on these topics but I'm not. I just keep thinking about why a guy would want to do something like that to women and no right guy, in his sane mind, would do it, believe me.

Let me give you a stupid example from my life. There this woman that I know who's really, really ugly (I know I shouldn't say this about people but just for the sake of this discussion...). And I really wanna have sex with her! Why? Not because I find her attractive (not in a million years) but because I have a very low self-esteem and I can feel like she'd be easy for me (she starts acting slutty around me), or because I feel like I cannot be with pretty girls. So for me, it is all about sex.

I'm not sure if I'm helping here but don't take any drastic steps, I guess?

xaero said:
I'm a guy and I can honestly say that most men are stupid pigs.

Well done representing the male kind! :p

maybe it is the lust i want to quench. i also don't know why. he sees my looks and he thinks it is good.. so he pays does not matter if he does not see the inner me...

as for rape... well i must be very desirable in his eyes regards of how horny he is?

I do not know how to explain.. my troubles and problems are long i do not know where to start and write...

i may sound like a troll or spam. but i am not it is just how i feel...

but then why would you pick out that particular woman to rape and not others if you say about attraction..


Gutted said:
I haven't felt like that before. But I have had some more extreme thoughts out of wanting to be more liked by Girls.

you are a man of course this do not apply to you..

what have you thought of?
 
Have you tried hook-up websites? You don't have to sell yourself or surrender yourself, in the case of rape, to be sexual.

You can be a sexual being rather than a sexual object.
 
murmi97 said:
Have you tried hook-up websites? You don't have to sell yourself or surrender yourself, in the case of rape, to be sexual.

You can be a sexual being rather than a sexual object.

hook up websites for??? haha sex is sex... as long as he is someone i do not know.. never.. does not prove my worth... ultimately i choose prosititution because of my worth and not sex..
 
Becoming a prostitute will probably lower your feeling of self worth over time instead of increasing it. Being treated with a lack of respect by customers and pimps, hanging around on street corners on freezing cold nights in skimpy clothes waitng for customers, facing the prejudice of a hypocritical society which condemns these poor women while turning a blind eye to the men who use their services-do you really want this sort of life?
 
well, I hope that all this discussion is completely theoretical and nobody at this point is going out there to prostitute him/herself.
This said, I must confess that sometimes I did feel the same, prostitution means a tangible proof that you are worth something, but that was in the couple of years when my self esteem was lower than Kafka's (you know, the guy who made an autobiographic novel around a cockroach being left to die by his parents).
I think these thoughts can be classified as "morbid", we all have them, if not exactly this maybe others that are analogue, please don't give in to them, *you* has nothing to do with ugly things like prostitution and rape, there are other ways to feel sexual, if at this point you don't believe in yourself, then temporarily believe in make up, grooming, and in the power of personality. Actually, if you say that by society's standards you are not considered very attractive, then prostitution is the one place where looks are half of what people pay for, (the other half being skills, I guess), so you are much better off looking for sexual praise in another environment where the focus is also on personality.
If then prostitution etc is some kind of sexual fantasy, then there must be ways to try that out without having to enter dangerous circles with very dangerous people.
 
Tiina63 said:
Becoming a prostitute will probably lower your feeling of self worth over time instead of increasing it. Being treated with a lack of respect by customers and pimps, hanging around on street corners on freezing cold nights in skimpy clothes waitng for customers, facing the prejudice of a hypocritical society which condemns these poor women while turning a blind eye to the men who use their services-do you really want this sort of life?

eh there are better ways of prostituting oneself in my country without going through all these. :p

i guess i still want. the problem is i am not pretty enough this is what is stopping me from doing it


Peaches said:
well, I hope that all this discussion is completely theoretical and nobody at this point is going out there to prostitute him/herself.
This said, I must confess that sometimes I did feel the same, prostitution means a tangible proof that you are worth something, but that was in the couple of years when my self esteem was lower than Kafka's (you know, the guy who made an autobiographic novel around a cockroach being left to die by his parents).
I think these thoughts can be classified as "morbid", we all have them, if not exactly this maybe others that are analogue, please don't give in to them, *you* has nothing to do with ugly things like prostitution and rape, there are other ways to feel sexual, if at this point you don't believe in yourself, then temporarily believe in make up, grooming, and in the power of personality. Actually, if you say that by society's standards you are not considered very attractive, then prostitution is the one place where looks are half of what people pay for, (the other half being skills, I guess), so you are much better off looking for sexual praise in another environment where the focus is also on personality.
If then prostitution etc is some kind of sexual fantasy, then there must be ways to try that out without having to enter dangerous circles with very dangerous people.

this is why i want to enter the trade. it will make me feel better. this is actually a good thing. why do people make prostitution sound like a degrading and hell job yet want it at same time.

maybe i should reveal something more of myself. i am suffering from androgenetic alopecia and got disfigured by a nosejob. i dunno if these two can be solved or not. precisely they pay for my looks which means i am pretty
 
DisturbedHell said:
Tiina63 said:
Becoming a prostitute will probably lower your feeling of self worth over time instead of increasing it. Being treated with a lack of respect by customers and pimps, hanging around on street corners on freezing cold nights in skimpy clothes waitng for customers, facing the prejudice of a hypocritical society which condemns these poor women while turning a blind eye to the men who use their services-do you really want this sort of life?

eh there are better ways of prostituting oneself in my country without going through all these. :p

i guess i still want. the problem is i am not pretty enough this is what is stopping me from doing it


Peaches said:
well, I hope that all this discussion is completely theoretical and nobody at this point is going out there to prostitute him/herself.
This said, I must confess that sometimes I did feel the same, prostitution means a tangible proof that you are worth something, but that was in the couple of years when my self esteem was lower than Kafka's (you know, the guy who made an autobiographic novel around a cockroach being left to die by his parents).
I think these thoughts can be classified as "morbid", we all have them, if not exactly this maybe others that are analogue, please don't give in to them, *you* has nothing to do with ugly things like prostitution and rape, there are other ways to feel sexual, if at this point you don't believe in yourself, then temporarily believe in make up, grooming, and in the power of personality. Actually, if you say that by society's standards you are not considered very attractive, then prostitution is the one place where looks are half of what people pay for, (the other half being skills, I guess), so you are much better off looking for sexual praise in another environment where the focus is also on personality.
If then prostitution etc is some kind of sexual fantasy, then there must be ways to try that out without having to enter dangerous circles with very dangerous people.

this is why i want to enter the trade. it will make me feel better. this is actually a good thing. why do people make prostitution sound like a degrading and hell job yet want it at same time.

maybe i should reveal something more of myself. i am suffering from androgenetic alopecia and got disfigured by a nosejob. i dunno if these two can be solved or not. precisely they pay for my looks which means i am pretty



in the UK there are these 'massage parlours' which are probably a lot better than standing on a street corner. My experience of them, they are clean and safe places with a lot of really nice women. It's not wham, bam thank you mam ! Many men go for the conversation and companionship. Maybe you could work in one of these places ? (if that's what you want to do !)
 
If you have low self esteem and decide to go into the sex industry, I can almost guarantee that you will have a worse time. As for validation, many of the men who see you want to be validated, and will also have their own standards. Nowadays there are online forums that review sex workers' performances, and some of those men can be pretty darn gross, pathetic and meanspirited.

A few men, thankfully it's only a few, will try and convince you to do things that you are not comfortable with (offering more money, begging, saying "oh so and so did it for me, why can't you") and you're going to have to recognize that you don't need to stoop to their demands to make a buck or "get them to like you". Who cares about those chumps? Listen: it's about being pretty/hot/sexy, being entertaining, making money, and "having a good time" (as part of the performance). If you can do that, then you'll be off to a good start. Take care of yourself.
 
They won't care about you at all. They won't care about your physical wellbeing. They won't care about your emotional wellbeing. They won't care about whether you get STDs or get pregnant. They won't care about anything.

Be careful.
 

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