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I don't come to this section often because it gets too heated at times. But I am curious to know if anyone would like to see this category removed and replaced with one of a different nature. Maybe it could be replaced with a category on health or maybe sports?
 
I've seen what an absolute disaster some of the threads in this section have become, but I still don't think it should be removed. The whole purpose of a forum is to discuss things and we're not all going to have the same opinion on everything, so it's better that anything contentious has is own place to be posted rather than risking the relative harmony of the rest of the forum.
 
Some people just can't have a debate, they take it personal and think it's an attack to them and don't accept other people's opinions; that's when the personal digs come out and the whole thread ends up an argument.

I dunno about you but I get board and loose interest as soon as this starts to happen as you can normally predict where it'll end up.

*Rolls eyes*
 
9006 said:
Some people just can't have a debate, they take it personal and think it's an attack to them and don't accept other people's opinions; that's when the personal digs come out and the whole thread ends up an argument.

I dunno about you but I get board and loose interest as soon as this starts to happen as you can normally predict where it'll end up.

*Rolls eyes*
Well. That's debatable.:D
 
I think sections like this are important for getting a real grasp of who is who on the forum.

Some will excel others will get nasty. Some may even revert to their monkey ancestors and start throwing poo all over the place, but the point is, it gives us a good overview of the users.

I find that most people today can't debate to save their lives, they have been trained by the tv to demand respect or be offended.
 
9006 said:
Some people just can't have a debate, they take it personal and think it's an attack to them and don't accept other people's opinions; that's when the personal digs come out and the whole thread ends up an argument.

I dunno about you but I get board and loose interest as soon as this starts to happen as you can normally predict where it'll end up.

*Rolls eyes*

Exactly. Like, God forbid that someone doesn't think exactly as they do... It's okay for them to voice their opinion, but it's an "attack" when someone says something different.

And no, I personally don't want it to be removed. People need to stop taking things so personally, especially in a debate section of a forum. It's debate, not take-everything-personal.
 
VanillaCreme said:
9006 said:
Some people just can't have a debate, they take it personal and think it's an attack to them and don't accept other people's opinions; that's when the personal digs come out and the whole thread ends up an argument.

I dunno about you but I get board and loose interest as soon as this starts to happen as you can normally predict where it'll end up.

*Rolls eyes*

Exactly. Like, God forbid that someone doesn't think exactly as they do... It's okay for them to voice their opinion, but it's an "attack" when someone says something different.

And no, I personally don't want it to be removed. People need to stop taking things so personally, especially in a debate section of a forum. It's debate, not take-everything-personal.

Agreed !
 
I personally have this idea that a different moderating approach would be better. However i am not a moderator, and the mods have done this for years. That means that it's extremely likely that their approach is simply better, but i just don't know the thinking behind it yet.

What i'm thinking is that when a person displays what 9006 explained, that individual person should be "moderated." As in, a mod telling them they should calm down/stick to the subject, or wathever the problem is.

Anyway, i'd like to hear from a moderator perspective what they think about this.
 
I dunno, I like a good argument :) It gets the blood pumping, doesn't it? And this is the internet, we like to argue here for sh*ts and giggles. This is the real land of freedom, here in anonymous cyberspace. Everyone feels free to let their freak flag fly :)
 
No.

I'd like to see less moderation and more debate. Good threads get locked for stupid reasons.
 
LeaningIntoTheMuse said:
No.

I'd like to see less moderation and more debate. Good threads get locked for stupid reasons.

Stupid reasons? Like fighting, name calling and the like?
*snorts*
 
Smokey said:
I think sections like this are important for getting a real grasp of who is who on the forum.

Some will excel others will get nasty. Some may even revert to their monkey ancestors and start throwing poo all over the place, but the point is, it gives us a good overview of the users.

I find that most people today can't debate to save their lives, they have been trained by the tv to demand respect or be offended.

And the ones who get emotional & combative, & have no debate skills, are the most fun to mess with. :D
 
MTrip said:
And the ones who get emotional & combative, & have no debate skills, are the most fun to mess with. :D

While that may be funny, one also has to be wary of what type of forum this is.
 
I think to have a good debate forum, it would need a mediator . Or even a code of conduct, and have a way of staying on subject.... Since many have the attention span of a gold fish anymore, and it takes off like sparks from a campfire in a windstorm.

And I believe it would help to have a sign-up sheet of a set number of people that would like to participate, in a certain subject that's pre-arranged ... When anyone can chime in with anything at anytime, it's going to flare up with frustration.

Especially if they don't even know what the focused objective is, when they comment.

Just a suggestion...
 
Well. It's clear that this category is staying. If it's staying than at least let it be a true debate section where members can speak their minds without worry of being banned or having the thread they authored locked. I strongly support action being taken if in the heat of argument a threat towards another member arises, but being banned for name calling and stuff? I know that it's a rule, but c'mon.

If Bjarne and the mods feel that this category is maybe not the best one for this type of forum genre, delete it. If not, let the battle begin. Members know that nasty things can be said and people can get pretty heated in this category. If this bothers them, they don't have to participate.

Nobody here is running for office or a representative of the Vatican. We shouldn't have to be so careful about what we say in a debate category. Personally, I think it would have been cool to see Obama tell Romney to go fresia himself in their debate. You know he wanted to. He couldn't because it would look very bad. I understand that, but this section carries nowhere near the amount of restraint and importance like a person running for President of the United States. My own mother called me an ******* last night for not scrubbing all of the noodles out of the pot I used to make macaroni before putting it in the dishwasher.

If a debate section gets out of hand too much, remove it. Otherwise, just let it go. Again, members know what their getting into before they enter it. It's like a gambling addict. They know what they're getting into as they walk through those casino doors.
 
OR....it stays "as is" and people respect the rules that are currently in place or refrain from posting.
Feel free to PM Bjarne if anyone has any questions or would like to make suggestions. Otherwise, I think this topic is pretty much done.

And LK... You surprise me by you last post. You're one of the most thin-skinned members we have here (by your own admission). So you "signing off" on the name calling seems a bit ironic to me.

But, as I said, the current rules in place will stand. PM Bjarne for those of you who have more comments/suggestions you'd like to make on the subject.
 
EveWasFramed said:
OR....it stays "as is" and people respect the rules that are currently in place or refrain from posting.
Feel free to PM Bjarne if anyone has any questions or would like to make suggestions. Otherwise, I think this topic is pretty much done.

And LK... You surprise me by you last post. You're one of the most thin-skinned members we have here (by your own admission). So you "signing off" on the name calling seems a bit ironic to me.

But, as I said, the current rules in place will stand. PM Bjarne for those of you who have more comments/suggestions you'd like to make on the subject.
Jesus Christ. I may be touchy at times Eve, but I don't get all bent out of shape if someone calls me an ******* or something. I'm not that sensitive. It is a rule and I must accept it. But I don't have to like it. If people want to argue over something, just let them duke it out. Don't lock threads and punish those who call someone else a dipshit or whatever.

That kind of thing just happens from time to time when most people argue. It's a fact of life. What is so terrible about someone calling you names? If a member is that sensitive, they have no place in that category. Myself being touchy is one of the main reasons that I don't spend much time there. I know what I'm going into if I enter.

If a member who is well aware of their sensitivity and how nasty and heated it gets there at times, and still decides to take part and is disrespected, it's not fair to the other members involved in a deep civil discussion when it's closed due to the sensitive member who knew **** well the way things go there sometimes, gets called a name, can't take it, gets upset, lashes out resulting in a potential thread closure.
 
LoneKiller said:
it's not fair to the other members involved in a deep civil discussion when it's closed due to the sensitive member who knew **** well the way things go there sometimes

That was exactly my point in my still unanswered proposal.
 
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