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What are the things that infuriate you the most from society?
#41
(03-07-2016, 03:26 AM)AnonymousMe Wrote:
(03-07-2016, 02:32 AM)reynard_muldrake Wrote: Except in most of those cases, you're talking about a few overzealous fans. Most people just interpret the friendship between those Star Wars characters as a platonic bond. Luke's sexuality was never mentioned in the Star Wars movies. If he were, in fact, gay or even bisexual... how would that impact the overall story? Considering the abundance of media that caters to a heterosexual audience, a few LGBT characters shouldn't result in you having a meltdown.

I get what you're saying, unless if it's the protagonist/antagonist and his/her love interest, sexual orientation doesn't matter at all, so no, I wouldn't mind having LGBT characters in some stories, but from a narrative perspective, it's much better if the characters are asexual or if they don't indicate what they like, because it leaves it up to interpretation and it's that vagueness that appeals EVERYONE; people can guess what's their orientation/preferences are and be correct, yet wrong at the same time (Fanfiction). It doesn't work well with established or iconic characters though, suddenly changing their vagueness will end up with mixed reactions from the fans, you can say that it makes them less special, it would be like openly telling what made the apocalyptic zombie world from The Walking Dead or telling the actual background of the Joker or showing what made the titans appear on Attack on Titan.

Hmm. I can't say romantic attraction (or other kinds of attraction) between characters really interest me in stories or shows, so I'm fine if there's ambiguity in that area. I'm usually watching or reading for the subject matter and/or characters anyway. I do, however, disagree that sexual orientation has such a great impact on the story. At most, it's just an additional facet to the character. And with comics (I recall you mentioned Iceman from the X-Men series), don't writers redo character origins or reboot the stories now and again? I'm not that familiar with comics, so correct me if I'm wrong.
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#42
I don't hate anything about the world, but if there's one thing I don't like in this world is that some people can get anything/what they really want simply because of their social network, EVEN if they don't have any talent/skills/requirements/etc. for that specific...thing.

Also, the pointless violence of mankind.
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#43
(03-07-2016, 05:17 AM)reynard_muldrake Wrote: Hmm. I can't say romantic attraction (or other kinds of attraction) between characters really interest me in stories or shows, so I'm fine if there's ambiguity in that area. I'm usually watching or reading for the subject matter and/or characters anyway. I do, however, disagree that sexual orientation has such a great impact on the story. At most, it's just an additional facet to the character. And with comics (I recall you mentioned Iceman from the X-Men series), don't writers redo character origins or reboot the stories now and again? I'm not that familiar with comics, so correct me if I'm wrong.

Yep, they reboot the storylines every once in a while. DC started the "New 52" comics in 2011 and Marvel started the "All-New, All-Different Marvel" last year, I think it continues a previous storyline though. Iceman's sexuality was revealed in this new line and, from what I gathered, it had a very mixed reaction, just look at the like/dislike bar of this video and read the comments if you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CiM73d5y4
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#44
(03-07-2016, 06:13 AM)AnonymousMe Wrote: just look at the like/dislike bar of this video and read the comments if you can.

A similar thing that bothers me is when they sort of rewrite a TV show that you enjoyed because of pushing and agenda. I really enjoyed the "100" the first season. Interestingly the main love interest character was killed off because he didn't have any chemistry with the main character and another did. Those two looked primed to have a great story line only to have the second season back off and push the main character as a lesbian (or bi but we havne't seen proof of that yet).

Ok, now I don't mind that if that is what the story starts as, but it does seem a little bit of false advertising to keep me as a viewer and go an entirely different way. And I resent that a few vocal audience members and take a show I liked and change it. Go find your own show.

There was another show I liked that got totally derailed by a loud fan base fighting for a rewrite of a few characters to suit their agenda. In this case everyone involved just decided to write the character and actor out to shut them up. Really sad.
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#45
(03-07-2016, 06:21 AM)LonelySutton Wrote:
(03-07-2016, 06:13 AM)AnonymousMe Wrote: just look at the like/dislike bar of this video and read the comments if you can.

A similar thing that bothers me is when they sort of rewrite a TV show that you enjoyed because of pushing and agenda. I really enjoyed the "100" the first season. Interestingly the main love interest character was killed off because he didn't have any chemistry with the main character and another did. Those two looked primed to have a great story line only to have the second season back off and push the main character as a lesbian (or bi but we havne't seen proof of that yet).

Did the character explicitly identify as a lesbian? Because to me, falling in love with a woman after falling in love with a man is enough proof that she's bisexual. Even if she weren't bi, many gay people do have relationships with members of the opposite sex. I just don't see how that drastically changes the show's plot (or that the creators have some agenda).
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(03-07-2016, 06:21 AM)LonelySutton Wrote: A similar thing that bothers me is when they sort of rewrite a TV show that you enjoyed because of pushing and agenda. I really enjoyed the "100" the first season. Interestingly the main love interest character was killed off because he didn't have any chemistry with the main character and another did. Those two looked primed to have a great story line only to have the second season back off and push the main character as a lesbian (or bi but we havne't seen proof of that yet).

Ok, now I don't mind that if that is what the story starts as, but it does seem a little bit of false advertising to keep me as a viewer and go an entirely different way. And I resent that a few vocal audience members and take a show I liked and change it. Go find your own show.

There was another show I liked that got totally derailed by a loud fan base fighting for a rewrite of a few characters to suit their agenda. In this case everyone involved just decided to write the character and actor out to shut them up. Really sad.

Once again, we think much alike. In season one, I was fixated on this series and probably binge watched 90% of it. Season 2, I feel is still good, but... and these were the words my head used " There is a serious lack of meaningful relationships." It seems all they do in season 2 is fight, and at this point, I no longer even understand what exactly they are fighting for. Lmao @ go get your own show ! i also feel that loyalties are flip flopping all over the place. Meaningfulness is getting lost and the ability to connect with the characters goes with it.

Even the lesbian scene, it was just her having meaningless sex with a random girl, and so far its served little if any purpose in the plot.

Still, with all that being said... I love this series.

I also feel that orange is the new black got derailed like this as well. I didnt even bother watching the rest. They all became too peaceful and happy in jail. There was no tension or fear of the unknown.

Anyway, in regards to poor dead finn, keep in mind if they have the technology over in that promised land of holograms, maybe they can bring fynn back. Smile
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#47
Injustice
I'm actually David Blane.
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#48
(03-07-2016, 03:51 PM)reynard_muldrake Wrote: Did the character explicitly identify as a lesbian? Because to me, falling in love with a woman after falling in love with a man is enough proof that she's bisexual. Even if she weren't bi, many gay people do have relationships with members of the opposite sex. I just don't see how that drastically changes the show's plot (or that the creators have some agenda).

The show started with a clear implication that the character was not gay having her be attracted two two different men... no indication she was attracted to a woman -- then, show goes away for 1 year and in a matter of months she is kissing a woman. Also the show was based on a book which did not have a gay character. Ok fine, but clearly the show got its ratings by interesting one group of people and then, tried to bring in a whole different group of people and, of course tried to keep the promise of her relationship with the guy just to string everyone along. Clearly it is their agenda to try to make the show / network more LGBT friendly at the expense of what I was watching. Its Hollywood... they definitely have an agenda.

Hey I happen to like male and female romance, shoot me. So it irks me when suddenly I am abruptly watching another show and I know it wasn't some sort of organic storytelling.
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#49
That was just her college experimental phase.
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#50
Sympathy being shown to people who don't deserve it.
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