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So I heard that Facebook is rolling out this new protocol where when someone posts a suicidal or other worrying post on facebook that their friends will be notified and encouraged to send messages or help in some way. It's supposed to be monitored by some kind of AI or something. I think that this may be a good idea and I feel a bit relieved by this. I usually save my breakdowns for facebook. It was getting to be a problem, which was part of the reason I joined this site in the first place - so that I wouldn't dump all my issues in my facebook feed. I would say that it is helping. I haven't had a breakdown yet this year, so that's good. What are others' opinions of this? Please share thoughts :)
 
That sounds like unwelcome interference. How would it work, like i'd be browsing and then get a notification saying please help this person? If i care about the person i most likely would know before they post it on facebook and would've talked with them already. If i don't, it's just going to annoy me.
 
There are already algorithms that can identify suicidal people more accurately than human experts can so this might work quite well.
 
I'm with Volt on this one. Certainly wouldn't come with an expensive algorithm or whatever that detects what... It'll just be about searching for certain common used words, like tags.

I don't know if that's the best way to work it out, feels kinda icky to be reminded to help a suicidal person like you remember their birthdays.
 
Sounds like a solid first step towards a system that will strip people of their rights and institutionalize them against their will for posting things that are flagged as "suicidal" without any human involvement.

If someone is genuinely suicidal, their life is probably shitty enough (at least by their measure, which is the only one that matters) that "unwelcome interference" is the least of the issues here.
 
I think it's a great idea. I would want to know if a friend is contemplating suicide. If they choose to say it on Facebook, so be it. Hell, I would try to help a stranger who wants to die, if I could, and I know others would too. Turning your back with an "I don't want to know" and rationalizing it seems cold.

-Teresa
 
el Jay said:
Sounds like a solid first step towards a system that will strip people of their rights and institutionalize them against their will for posting things that are flagged as "suicidal" without any human involvement.

bingo, ding-ding-ding, we have a winner


facebook is the voluntary (at first) control grid

cia funded and backed
 
Facebook analyzes keywords. Is it intrusive? Of course, but if it saves someone's life, I don't see the problem with it. Facebook is part of the internet. If you don't want someone knowing something, you shouldn't be posting it online. If you want to keep that honeysuckle private, try a diary....the old fashioned way, with a notebook and pen.
 
wallflower79 said:
So I heard that Facebook is rolling out this new protocol where when someone posts a suicidal or other worrying post on facebook that their friends will be notified and encouraged to send messages or help in some way. It's supposed to be monitored by some kind of AI or something. I think that this may be a good idea and I feel a bit relieved by this. I usually save my breakdowns for facebook. It was getting to be a problem, which was part of the reason I joined this site in the first place - so that I wouldn't dump all my issues in my facebook feed. I would say that it is helping. I haven't had a breakdown yet this year, so that's good. What are others' opinions of this? Please share thoughts :)

Posting personal details, especially the emotional issues, sounds scary to me. I have done that before, and it feels so weird telling inner feelings to people who we know and then meeting them face to face. I prefer keeping it on my own or telling people who are either anonymous or whom I have never met but only known online. 

Speaking of facebook in particular, I hope that this feature is effective enough to help people out although I am not a fan of facebook in general.
 
Well, I think the motivation behind this is the bad press that facebook had been getting about cries for help that were ignored, or worse, bullied for it. Also, I have read that there has been a spate of people attempting/committing suicide via facebook live. I think you are right that facebook wants more influence and control over its users, but it is of course, voluntary. I took the app off my phone because I got sick of it tracking me, and I also went through the settings and attempted to remove what settings had for targeted advertisements for a demographic I was not even a part of. My parents do not and have never had facebook, and neither does one of my brothers and they are much more well adjusted than I am. Thanks for all of your replies and thoughts. I like to hear different opinions, and it gives me a lot to think about, so thank you.
 
It actually scares me. Not that it doesn't sound like a good idea, mind you, but the fact that a fake meeting place on a digital platform that has invaded all our lives enough that people's priorities before killing themselves is to post a message on facebook?
I fear for humanity's soul. The internet is so not as important as real, actual lives....Plus, it's so easy to get ignored on facebook, trying to get attention that way can depress people further.
Anyway, good that it's monitored. Bad news for us.
 
Richard_39 said:
It actually scares me. Not that it doesn't sound like a good idea, mind you, but the fact that a fake meeting place on a digital platform that has invaded all our lives enough that people's priorities before killing themselves is to post a message on facebook?
I fear for humanity's soul. The internet is so not as important as real, actual lives....Plus, it's so easy to get ignored on facebook, trying to get attention that way can depress people further.
Anyway, good that it's monitored. Bad news for us.

Thanks, Richard. It is pretty scary how much a social media platform has invaded people's lives in an attempt to connect everyone, though people can sometimes seem more disconnected than ever before. Who knows what will happen?
 
wallflower79 said:
Thanks, Richard. It is pretty scary how much a social media platform has invaded people's lives in an attempt to connect everyone, though people can sometimes seem more disconnected than ever before. Who knows what will happen?

But people join Facebook, and thus sign the agreement to use FB.  Then they proceed to post in an online place.  I don't understand how they are invading anything when people are the ones posting.  That's on them, not Facebook.
 
TheRealCallie said:
wallflower79 said:
Thanks, Richard. It is pretty scary how much a social media platform has invaded people's lives in an attempt to connect everyone, though people can sometimes seem more disconnected than ever before. Who knows what will happen?

But people join Facebook, and thus sign the agreement to use FB.  Then they proceed to post in an online place.  I don't understand how they are invading anything when people are the ones posting.  That's on them, not Facebook.

Well, let me put it this way. Wether it be facebook or any other social media platform, many a time people feel the need to join out of social requirement, peer pressure or ease of access to other things. Do the test; go outside in a place where lots of 18-20 year olds hang out, start a conversation and then when they talk about keeping touch, say "I don't have facebook or go on social media". They'll look at you like you're an alien and try not to laugh at you and WON'T try to stay in touch, necessarily. To me that's fine, but imagine you're a growing 10-16 year old kid? Non-acceptance. When you're just trying to fit in with everyone, you're off to a bad start, you might even get ridiculed.
So yes, it's not "ON" facebook per say (even though they know this and make a bundle off selling some personal "not-so-personal" information on you), they grow because of it and are very much aware of this phenomena. Make no real effort to stop it either. When is the last time you saw a public service announcement made BY facebook on the web saying "There's a real life out there kids, go talk to people and social media isn't all that important?". Usually you get more of "CONNECT. Read all about what the Kardashians are doing on Twitter!". That's how social media has kind of invaded us, in the sense that they're trying to create a false need that you HAVE to be. You really don't.
Anyway, that'S my view and my beef of it. We should get our kids to play outside more and stop thinking facebook or other platforms are actually necessary to their lives.

I personally did that with my kids. They'd much rather come play frisbee with me that sit around poking celebs they'll never meet. Makes for a much healthier life in my opinion. They don't have 245 facebook friends, but the 8 they have in real life, they visit regularly and they don't text...
 
Did you know Facebook also want's your nudes?
They'll make a digital fingerprint of the file and whenever anyone tries to upload a photo matching that fingerprint they go "nope", not allowed.

Facebook is trying their bests to keep it's users safe, it might seem a bit scary, but it is what it is and if they didn't people would be blaming them for that as well.
 
MisterLonely said:
Did you know Facebook also want's your nudes?
They'll make a digital fingerprint of the file and whenever anyone tries to upload a photo matching that fingerprint they go "nope", not allowed.

Facebook is trying their bests to keep it's users safe, it might seem a bit scary, but it is what it is and if they didn't people would be blaming them for that as well.

Can you explain it differently? Might be the language barrier since I'm french, but I don't think I understand.
Aren't you not allowed to post nude photos on facebook?
 
Richard_39 said:
MisterLonely said:
Did you know Facebook also want's your nudes?
They'll make a digital fingerprint of the file and whenever anyone tries to upload a photo matching that fingerprint they go "nope", not allowed.

Facebook is trying their bests to keep it's users safe, it might seem a bit scary, but it is what it is and if they didn't people would be blaming them for that as well.

Can you explain it differently? Might be the language barrier since I'm french, but I don't think I understand.
Aren't you not allowed to post nude photos on facebook?

They don't want you to post it online, they are working on a pilot program where you can send in your private pictures and facebook will run them through an algorithm to log a digital fingerprint of the image to prevent it from being uploaded to facebook again.

This is an attempt to stop the so called revenge porn postings from men and or women looking to get back at an ex, or trying to blackmail a person into performing sexual explicit action on camera, or send more nudes of themself

The idea is that in such a case, you could (in the future) upload any and all photos you shared with someone, and they will not be able to post them on facebook with a tag of you ever, good idea if you'd ask me.

Here's a link
http://www.eonline.com/uk/news/892789/facebook-wants-you-to-submit-your-nude-photos-here-s-why
 
Not sure if a computer can replace human contact.

I have called interstate police twice in the last couple of months. It was kinda simple. The guy said "I'm going to kill myself". Doesn't get more basic than that. Australians aren't known for their messing about.
 
TheLoadedDog said:
Not sure if a computer can replace human contact.

I have called interstate police twice in the last couple of months. It was kinda simple. The guy said "I'm going to kill myself". Doesn't get more basic than that. Australians aren't known for their messing about.

Makes sense, Loaded Dog. Understood.
 

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