losing virginity with an escort?

^Only you can decide this for yourself then.

It may help you get over any hangups over the physical aspect, but in regards to self-esteem paying for it is not a solution at all IMO.

You sound ashamed at the idea, so why do it?

I've seen many camgirls and amateur videos and I've never seen a woman use a dildo smaller than 6 inches. And it's not that they don't sell any smaller. So I don't know where this concept comes from, where size is never and issue.

ardour said:

^Only you can decide this for yourself then.

It may help you get over any hangups over the physical aspect, but in regards to self-esteem paying for it is not a solution at all IMO.

You sound ashamed at the idea, so why do it?

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Because i can't see any other options. Maybe i need to stop with porn and all these things. Thinking about people who lived 100 years ago, they didn't had any tangible comparison so they just had sex with others without worrying too much about this kind of things

I've seen many camgirls and amateur videos and I've never seen a woman use a dildo smaller than 6 inches. And it's not that they don't sell any smaller. So I don't know where this concept comes from, where size is never and issue.

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I think is a sort of encoraugement to boost men overall confidence

I think visually big dildos are better. There's lots of things people do to get money with porn that they'd never want to do in real life. From a biological standpoint 6 inches can be small and it can also be too big. Since only TMI works to explain these things... in my experience anything around and bigger than 6 inches hurt and I cannot enjoy intercourse but 5 inches is perfect. 

I think that the emotional part of this idea worries me more than the act itself or any fears about this being your only option, but tbh I don't think this type of experience is as shallow as people think, especially if you're a regular client. What other questions do you have about this? How do you think you'd feel after the fact?

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I think that the emotional part of this idea worries me more than the act itself or any fears about this being your only option, but tbh I don't think this type of experience is as shallow as people think, especially if you're a regular client. What other questions do you have about this? How do you think you'd feel after the fact?

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I honestly don't think that anything good will come out, but i don't know what else i can do. Everyone is talking about emoctions but i always was "Emotionally Bullied" for having them, for sharing my feelings etc So i really can't think of someone who can feel emoctions, it seems fake to me. Probably is one of my biggest limits. When i see people talking about emoctions in sex a sort of sacrasm barrier rises in me, like: "oh yeah, lets see how long this emoctional state will last before you make fun of someone here". Of course i understand that this is a problem of mine, that is my fault. It simply sucks to be born like this, nothing more. 

I have so much work to do for improving myself. But in the end when i'm about to get started i thought pops in my mind: "So? you are still alone. No one cares if you improve, you can just stay at home, there will be no difference"

I really can't comment much on the last bit, because "giving up" is a personal decision - well, as much as you can call it a decision *and as much as you can call it giving up*

Anyways, as much as you've felt bullied about these things, you still do feel it on an emotional level. You wouldn't be here making sense of things otherwise and as much as you consciously want to avoid it - it exists and you're being influenced by it.

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I honestly don't think that anything good will come out, but i don't know what else i can do. 

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Remain a virgin?

It's understandable to want to have had sex by a certain age with someone who's into the idea.But obviously that's not how it is with a sex worker. You're just a client. Where's the significance? Some of the least attractive guys on the planet that very few women would touch have had done that with sex workers. It doesn't mean anything.

zibafu said:

There is another aspect to consider as well.

That 100 dollars, and the thing that almost every guy will say is - yeah I lasted like 2 minutes.

So look at it from a purely financial aspect, you wont be getting value for money haha

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Probably the best reply in this thread.

Never mind all the moral/emotional stigmas and connotations. THIS is why virgins should avoid losing it to a sex worker. There are so many better ways to spend 100 bucks.

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Unix said:

I honestly don't think that anything good will come out, but i don't know what else i can do. 

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Remain a virgin?

It's understandable to  want to have had sex by a certain age with someone who's into the idea.But obviously that's not how it is with a sex worker. You're just a client. Where's the significance? Some of the least attractive guys on the planet that very few women would touch  have had done that with sex workers. It doesn't mean anything.

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Why should i? There is no reason to remain a virgin. No one will "appreciate" virginity at the age of 23. Sex with an escord will never mean anyting. But now i'm quite curious of why men pay for sex, because not all of them are losers or ugly

Never mind all the moral/emotional stigmas and connotations. THIS is why virgins should avoid losing it to a sex worker. There are so many better ways to spend 100 bucks.

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For sure. I ain't that tight on money. Well, i aint rich but i can afford to spend 500-600 bucks at month for these things. It just that i can't stand this situation anymore. In the last 4 months 90% of my thoughts were on this topic

Anyways, as much as you've felt bullied about these things, you still do feel it on an emotional level. You wouldn't be here making sense of things otherwise and as much as you consciously want to avoid it - it exists and you're being influenced by it.

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Yes, that is the problem. I'm still full of emoction, and this si the only reason of why i haven't lost my virginity with an escort

Okay, we've actually started talking thanks to my topic, OP and this again came up.

I truly hope you didn't go through with this, as I replied to you. And I even sent you some better alternatives.

I hope we can keep talking and maybe I can get you away from this incel-leaning mindset and really help you out. To think you made this topic so long ago. But if you're still mentioning it, I'd guess you still haven't gone through with it. Hopefully; I'm not at the end yet.

I think that Unix needs to do what he wants to. 
It’s his choice and whatever he chooses, it’s ok.
We all got to go down different roads to get to where we want to be.

A hug is coming your way.
*squeeze*

That is assuming that he wants to go where this will lead him.

Maybe he could do it just for the companionship , getting the experience of being with a woman.He doesn't actually have to commit to full sex.I had a mate who in the throws of a divorce saw the same one for a year.He got back with his wife again eventually but it fulfilled his needs.l don't see any problem with it they are human beings after all.

It would surely give Unix the confidence boost he needs . I say go for it if it's the only option.
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Hazed said:

That is assuming that he wants to go where this will lead him.

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Where you think is gonna lead me? Just curious

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Hazed said:

That is assuming that he wants to go where this will lead him.

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Where you think is gonna lead me? Just curious

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Nowhere to be honest. A continuation of sorts. You said you watched alot of porn. I think this is just a part of that, building on to it. 

I don't know you well enough at all to know how you will react to it or whatever, i just think it's part of the same pattern of behavior that is doing the exact opposite of what you want.

Im quitting porn. It isn't easy at all, but is very beneficial, just considering the time gained from quitting Masturbartion. But this has nothing to do with sex. To be honest, I have come to believe that being addicted to porn has nothing to do with sex and love.

Is one of the worst dependance you can have, almost comparable to drugs. As I was a teenager and I laughed my ass off those who warned people about porn I have never thought that I would have to quit it. When you do, you gain a completely different world perspective. You have more energy, more sex drive and a way easier time to deal with depression. 

I want love and affection, but I seem to be unable to obtain it. I want sex as well. I'm inexperienced and shy when it comes to touching the female body. I can't think of another way to solve this problem. Experience, right?

As I was able to rewire my brain almost completely, I can see that all these "it must be special" are bullshits from people that can't imagine, becaus they have never had those problems, what is to be like that.

I ain't a virgin anymore, and I'm happy with it. It wasn't special, it wasn't that good. But it wasn't a big deal. I almost... Discovered how easy is sex and getting physical with a women. 

If you are a 20+ virgin with self esteem issues, do not waste your time waiting for someone that never comes. You are letting go one of the best things about life. If you are lucky enough to bang someone you know is awesome! If not, find a way to get out of the infinite cycle

Anyway what's this obsession with getting your end away ..it's the build up etc which is the most pleasurable bit..the edge if you know what I mean

Joturbo said:

Anyway what's this obsession with getting your end away ..it's the build up etc which is the most pleasurable bit..the edge if you know what I mean

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Yeah, I heard of that xD I still do not know what it looks like

Unix said:

Joturbo said:

Anyway what's this obsession with getting your end away ..it's the build up etc which is the most pleasurable bit..the edge if you know what I mean

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Yeah, I heard of that xD I still do not know what it looks like

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Er I dunno candles , fragrant bath , massage , I'm sure you can fill an hour before you get your jackhammer goin

Dunno, sounds like something out from a bad romantic movie if I were to fill one hour I would take her to something fun, like a laser game xD ain't really the restaurant type though.

Once they kicked me and my friends because we were making too much noise ahaha