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Getting high and being sober
#1
There are many ways to see the world. Sober, drunk, high, depressed, etc.

What if to get a better bigger picture of the world, you'll need to see through ALL perspectives???

And I'm high.
And I know, and I know.

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#2
sorry... had to Big Grin

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#3
It's tempting if you've got nothing much to live for, but drugs tend to worsen things long term.

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I LOVED things when I was drunk. I could breath easier and I felt amazing. Alcohol was the best friend I ever had. The world was such a better place for me. But, the side effects and as mentioned the long term effects aren't so great. So, I gave up on all drugs of any kind including alcohol. I'm very healthy now. But, I'm also not very happy. I'm sad that I turned my back on the best friend I've ever had, alcohol. I figured I would eventually get over that part. It's been more then a decade and I'm still waiting. I've thought many times about drinking again. At this point it wouldn't be the addiction calling me back. I'm over that part. Instead it would be a conscious decision. However, it was so difficult to stop that I just can't allow myself to get on that train again with anything. I know I would stay on that train for the rest of my life.

Several times I bought alcohol and found a bum hanging out somewhere. I would hand it over to him, sit and talk with him for awhile, watch him drink it, and see how happy he was to get it. But, I would never have any myself. So, as much as I want to say consuming drugs and alcohol is bad, maybe it isn't for some people. The happiness it brings them may be worth more then the sadness it brings them without it. Sure their life will be shorter and filled with problems. But, in their case it still may be a better life being high.

That's probably why so many people are on prescribed happy pills. Hell, marijuana is legal here now. That's insane to me. But, whatever. I thought about getting on happy pills myself. But, drugs are drugs and not healthy. So, I've chosen to not use anything.
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(04-06-2021, 06:41 PM)Finished Wrote: .... So, as much as I want to say consuming drugs and alcohol is bad, maybe it isn't for some people....

It possibly isn't for some people but those are the ones that can put it down and easily walk away from it. The ones that don't feel it is a need or a haven. It doesn't sound like you are one of those people.
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(04-07-2021, 10:36 AM)Minus Wrote:
(04-06-2021, 06:41 PM)Finished Wrote: .... So, as much as I want to say consuming drugs and alcohol is bad, maybe it isn't for some people....

It possibly isn't for some people but those are the ones that can put it down and easily walk away from it.  The ones that don't feel it is a need or a haven. It doesn't sound like you are one of those people.

That's true. I have an addictive personality. I'm not capable of dabbling in very enjoyable activities because I can never get enough. It's not just limited to drugs and alcohol either. I had an adrenaline addiction for years. I continually placed myself in life threatening situations on a regular basis to feel the rush of it. After being injured many times I finally realized I couldn't continue doing that. Now, I restrict myself from doing anything that is more then just a little enjoyable to keep from it becoming a new addiction. It really sucks.

But, I'm far from being alone. IMO, many people have addictive personalities. But, to a lesser degree then I do. So, they become addicted to things without the obvious side effects or major problems like I've had. 

For instance, I had a friend that could have three drinks when we went drinking and stop. I just could not do that. Yet, he was on temporary very potent happy pills for about four months. Well, he continued on them for way more then a decade that I know of. We discussed the horrible side effects he was frequently experiencing. He knew the drugs were bad for him. Yet, he continued taking them because he convinced himself he needed them. Then he took other drugs to try to counter act the side effects of the original drugs. He became a very different person. IMO, that scenario has become a common one. I've known many people who were, IMO, hooked on prescription drugs.
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You say things like that, but yet you also say that drugs and alcohol aren't bad for some people and you give people alcohol, knowing full well they could already have a problem or help them continue with their problem. Those homeless people would likely have been just as grateful for juice or soda or water or even actual food so they can stay nourished.

I've seen way too many people struggle with alcoholism as well as drug addiction. It's not a good thing....ever. It might make you forget about shit for a bit, but it always comes back, usually worse, making them drink or do drugs more to stay away from reality. Not to mention the long term side effects from both alcohol and drugs.
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(04-07-2021, 09:14 PM)TheRealCallie Wrote: You say things like that, but yet you also say that drugs and alcohol aren't bad for some people 

Most people drink occasionally-to-moderately or have smoked the occasional joint. Although giving alcohol to the homeless is obviously a bad idea.
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(04-06-2021, 12:33 PM)Azariah Wrote: There are many ways to see the world. Sober, drunk, high, depressed, etc.

What if to get a better bigger picture of the world, you'll need to see through ALL perspectives???

And I'm high.
And I know, and I know.


I've seen the world through the bottom of a glass way too many times in the past. It's sometimes enjoyable and it's sometimes destructive. To be honest, I'm not sure you should be advocating drug use on this forum.
Any major dude with half a heart surely will tell you, my friend....any minor world that breaks apart, falls together again.
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(04-07-2021, 11:10 PM)ardour Wrote:
(04-07-2021, 09:14 PM)TheRealCallie Wrote: You say things like that, but yet you also say that drugs and alcohol aren't bad for some people 

Most people drink occasionally-to-moderately or have smoked the occasional joint. Although giving alcohol to the homeless is obviously a bad idea.

That's true, but in my opinion, it entirely depends on the reason you are drinking or doing drugs.  If you are using them as a way to escape whatever you have going on in your life, the risk of becoming dependent on it and developing a problem is likely very high.
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