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River Lion

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Hi everyone,

First of all let me apologize if this in the wrong subforum.

I've posted in the past before about commercial intimicacy. Over the course of January-March I went to strip clubs every week, I spent about $800 there total. During my adventures there I met an outgoing stripper who french kissed me during our sessions.

I'm not going to provide a full summary about my social situation, too long boring and depressing to read. Don't wanna bore you guys.
If I asked this on reddit or something, most of the responses would say "omg go get a real girlfriend lol". Not possible, not at this time.

I'm genuinely thinking of paying or intimacy again, but not strip clubs. I want something more. Not actual sex, because I want my first ever intercourse between a real girlfriend who actually likes me, I want it to be sincere.

But at the same time I want a woman to hug, to cuddle with, to kiss and just overall embrace. I asked on a game forum I frequent and among the "lol that's pathetic" reposes, one guy was genuine. He said that I should consider seeing a well-reviewd escort that offers a "girlfriend experience". Kissing, foreplay, etc.

Even if I went to a strip club again, I'd probably tell my private dancer not to gyrate and shake her booty erotically but instead just sit on my thigh and let us wrap our arms around each other. It'd probably creep her out, I think.


tl;dr

So, I was wondering...has anyone here seen escorts? And if you have, do you feel the physical actions emulate a girlfriend. Do they typically allow you to just lay in bed and embrace? And how did you go about getting one (off the street, the internet, a friend referral, etc.)




You can skip the backstory and just read the blue text to get "straight to the point"
 
I have a simple answer to your question and since you already spent a significant amount of money on the same thing then you will know that at the end of the day this type of experience is to separate you from your money. Strip club, girlfriend experience or just a plain hook up that costs money is there to, again, separate you from your money. You'll be more upset if you got one of those girlfriend experiences because its a front.

On the same note you skip the middle man by taking a girl out without getting laid so...in essence with a escort at least you'll get laid.
 
River Lion said:
I'm genuinely thinking of paying or intimacy again, but not strip clubs. I want something more. Not actual sex, because I want my first ever intercourse between a real girlfriend who actually likes me, I want it to be sincere.

Honestly, this path doesn't seem the right one to prepare you for this kind of experience - dating real girls would, or even practicing intercourse with a professional to get some experience, but not going on fake dates with a professional (much more expensive as well).
 
River Lion said:
Hi everyone,

First of all let me apologize if this in the wrong subforum.

I've posted in the past before about commercial intimicacy. Over the course of January-March I went to strip clubs every week, I spent about $800 there total. During my adventures there I met an outgoing stripper who french kissed me during our sessions.

I'm not going to provide a full summary about my social situation, too long boring and depressing to read. Don't wanna bore you guys.
If I asked this on reddit or something, most of the responses would say "omg go get a real girlfriend lol". Not possible, not at this time.

I'm genuinely thinking of paying or intimacy again, but not strip clubs. I want something more. Not actual sex, because I want my first ever intercourse between a real girlfriend who actually likes me, I want it to be sincere.

But at the same time I want a woman to hug, to cuddle with, to kiss and just overall embrace. I asked on a game forum I frequent and among the "lol that's pathetic" reposes, one guy was genuine. He said that I should consider seeing a well-reviewd escort that offers a "girlfriend experience". Kissing, foreplay, etc.

Even if I went to a strip club again, I'd probably tell my private dancer not to gyrate and shake her booty erotically but instead just sit on my thigh and let us wrap our arms around each other. It'd probably creep her out, I think.


tl;dr

So, I was wondering...has anyone here seen escorts? And if you have, do you feel the physical actions emulate a girlfriend. Do they typically allow you to just lay in bed and embrace? And how did you go about getting one (off the street, the internet, a friend referral, etc.)




You can skip the backstory and just read the blue text to get "straight to the point"


Yes I have, I don't mind admitting it.
First time was in 1997 when I was 28. Our local paper had adverts which said roughly 'massage parlours, ring for details'

Anyway after months and months of thinking about it, I plucked up the courage and rang up. This woman told me the prices of the massages and where it was. Nothing else was mentioned. I went the next day, it wasn't far away, above this café. How I had the courage to go in I have no idea ?

I walked in. Two women were there walking around in their underwear. They asked me which type of massage I wanted. I chose the basic type. (One girl not two)

I went into a bedroom. The woman came in a few minutes later. She was attractive and sexy. She told me to strip. I did, I felt a bit embarrassed. I laid on the bed face down and she gave me this massage. We chatted about general stuff. She told me to turn over. We talked more. And then she said 'Would you like any extra's ?' - I asked what they were and she replied 'full sex' and told me the price. I had enough money on me so I said 'yes'

I won't go into any more details. It's all very natural and of course very enjoyable.

A few things - always use a condom, do some research, make sure it's a decent place and got a good reputation. Only go along with it if you are sure. Don't feel you are doing anything wrong.

I know it's not for everybody but I don't regret it, best thing I ever did.
 
After my divorce from my French husband I sought an escort in Cannes. She was a classy *****. Very classy. We practiced safe sex. Only safe sex also is when both parties involved feel safe, secure, comfortable and good about what's happening. She gave me a fantastic night, one I will always remember with fondness. We women have needs, too. It's not just a man's world.
 
Noibe said:
I have a simple answer to your question and since you already spent a significant amount of money on the same thing then you will know that at the end of the day this type of experience is to separate you from your money. Strip club, girlfriend experience or just a plain hook up that costs money is there to, again, separate you from your money. You'll be more upset if you got one of those girlfriend experiences because its a front.

I agree with this. If it's something genuine you're after, I can't imagine this leaving you with anything but the same feeling of disappointment you got from strip clubs. That's another reason why I don't like these sort of things - it's all just designed to take your money, when you could really use that money for something else that you could almost guarantee would put you in a better spot in life. I can only imagine what I'd do with $800. There are so many things I'd been meaning to get, some of which could really help me get somewhere. Or places I'd go, things I'd do. So much better than a throwaway experience that's just designed to shake you down.

Not only that, but there are some really rotten, ugly, and stupid guys out there that manage to get girlfriends. And there are also guys out there who might not be as bad as that, but who just aren't any better than you, who also manage to get girlfriends. I don't mean this as a "lol that's pathetic, go get a girlfriend" post. I'm just saying, you want someone to cuddle and embrace and you want something real. Don't let these other guys edge you out from getting that. Don't let them muscle you out of your dream.
 
TheSkaFish said:
Noibe said:
I have a simple answer to your question and since you already spent a significant amount of money on the same thing then you will know that at the end of the day this type of experience is to separate you from your money. Strip club, girlfriend experience or just a plain hook up that costs money is there to, again, separate you from your money. You'll be more upset if you got one of those girlfriend experiences because its a front.

I agree with this. If it's something genuine you're after, I can't imagine this leaving you with anything but the same feeling of disappointment you got from strip clubs. That's another reason why I don't like these sort of things - it's all just designed to take your money, when you could really use that money for something else that you could almost guarantee would put you in a better spot in life. I can only imagine what I'd do with $800. There are so many things I'd been meaning to get, some of which could really help me get somewhere. Or places I'd go, things I'd do. So much better than a throwaway experience that's just designed to shake you down.

Not only that, but there are some really rotten, ugly, and stupid guys out there that manage to get girlfriends. And there are also guys out there who might not be as bad as that, but who just aren't any better than you, who also manage to get girlfriends. I don't mean this as a "lol that's pathetic, go get a girlfriend" post. I'm just saying, you want someone to cuddle and embrace and you want something real. Don't let these other guys edge you out from getting that. Don't let them muscle you out of your dream.

I think since the guy is asking about it, he is already thinking of going that way. You can't wait forever. I also think if you manage to go thru with it, it gives you a massive amount of confidence. Women are no longer so daunting to talk to. That was my experience anyway.

Funny though, last time I was in one of those places. I had three bored, looking girls in front of me, £60 in my pocket and I had to choose which one to 'pick' - all of a sudden it didn't seem such a good idea and I felt they didn't deserve my hard earned money. I said 'I think I will give it a miss' - none of them were very pleased.
 
TheSkaFish said:
Not only that, but there are some really rotten, ugly, and stupid guys out there that manage to get girlfriends. And there are also guys out there who might not be as bad as that, but who just aren't any better than you, who also manage to get girlfriends. I don't mean this as a "lol that's pathetic, go get a girlfriend" post. I'm just saying, you want someone to cuddle and embrace and you want something real. Don't let these other guys edge you out from getting that. Don't let them muscle you out of your dream.

I don't think he's ready to really enter the competitive "dating game" yet, IMHO. As he has mentioned before, he's still got wallflower-itis and one cannot simply gain social skills overnight. I speak from the position of being socially inept and overly shy as well... catching up takes a **** long time.. yet I suppose if you have more motivation than me, you can shorten the time. But in my case, it took a really, really long time for me to even realize what I've got wrong.. and now I am only just beginning to address that, which is another long process... you know, positive reprogramming, standing in the front of the mirror and convincing myself that I actually have value, all that and more.

The thing is.. he could be waiting a while before he's ready and have no experience.. or he could attempt to learn a thing or two while it's still early in the game, with the asterisk of paying for it. In my case I did *not* choose the second option, and what leaves me with... is virtually no practical experience.
 
Also to add more to his case with more truth is once a man busts hes out for a while and even the most sexiest is meh untill hes recharged only downside is he lost money heh. Happens in loving relationships also. Happens to men!

The only upside again is that the amount of money he'd spend hed get laid as opposed to spending the same amount of money taking a potential girl out on dates and not getting laid.

Money seems lost regardless of the scenario *shrugs*
 
Don't waste your money on strip clubs. With $900, you could have seen 9-18 escorts depending on how much they charge. You get to fresia for less money than at a strip club where you pay more and can't fresia.

You wasted $900, good job OP.
 
Stonely said:
Don't waste your money on strip clubs. With $900, you could have seen 9-18 escorts depending on how much they charge. You get to fresia for less money than at a strip club where you pay more and can't fresia.

You wasted $900, good job OP.
To quote a random guy in a crappy Netflix documentary, "There is a recession on pussy. The price has gone down in recent years. The price of pussy is about $50." If that's all you're actually looking for I imagine it would be pretty easy to keep that up financially.
 
Stonely said:
Don't waste your money on strip clubs. With $900, you could have seen 9-18 escorts depending on how much they charge. You get to fresia for less money than at a strip club where you pay more and can't fresia.

You wasted $900, good job OP.

But do you think messing around with escorts would help his confidence? I don't believe it would lessen any man's confidence. On the other hand, there seems to be a commonly shared idea (at least on the 'net, from what I've seen) that for a shy virgin, or whatever, seeing an escort will help you learn things you otherwise wouldn't, and thus *improve* confidence. I'm just not sure about this idea. Any thoughts?
 
Batman55 said:
Stonely said:
Don't waste your money on strip clubs. With $900, you could have seen 9-18 escorts depending on how much they charge. You get to fresia for less money than at a strip club where you pay more and can't fresia.

You wasted $900, good job OP.

But do you think messing around with escorts would help his confidence? I don't believe it would lessen any man's confidence. On the other hand, there seems to be a commonly shared idea (at least on the 'net, from what I've seen) that for a shy virgin, or whatever, seeing an escort will help you learn things you otherwise wouldn't, and thus *improve* confidence. I'm just not sure about this idea. Any thoughts?

I think it does improve confidence.
Because going to see a Escort / working girl is very, very embarrassing when you consider what happens. If you can manage to get thru that then talking to women should be easier. I don't think it gets you more dates though.
 
Triple Bogey said:
I think it does improve confidence.
Because going to see a Escort / working girl is very, very embarrassing when you consider what happens. If you can manage to get thru that then talking to women should be easier. I don't think it gets you more dates though.

If it improves confidence, as you suggest it does.. then it *should* theoretically help one get more dates, though.. right? One needs confidence to get a date in the first place.
 
I've heard from a reliable source that tinder works well if all you want to do is get laid. I don't think that's really what the OP is looking for though.
 
Batman55 said:
Triple Bogey said:
I think it does improve confidence.
Because going to see a Escort / working girl is very, very embarrassing when you consider what happens. If you can manage to get thru that then talking to women should be easier. I don't think it gets you more dates though.

If it improves confidence, as you suggest it does.. then it *should* theoretically help one get more dates, though.. right? One needs confidence to get a date in the first place.

It certainly improved my confidence. In fact it was a major turning point in my life. After that things seemed to go right, eg getting a job, talking more etc.
 
Skid Row 89 said:
I've heard from a reliable source that tinder works well if all you want to do is get laid. I don't think that's really what the OP is looking for though.

It works well if you're a good looking guy who knows how to take good photos... otherwise, it doesn't work so well.

I'll temper the "requirement" to be good looking by saying the photos themselves are of equal importance, at least... I think a confident guy, simply by default, is going to know how to look, the right posture, etc.. things easily skipped over by someone who is shy and awkward.
 
Batman55 said:
Stonely said:
Don't waste your money on strip clubs. With $900, you could have seen 9-18 escorts depending on how much they charge. You get to fresia for less money than at a strip club where you pay more and can't fresia.

You wasted $900, good job OP.

But do you think messing around with escorts would help his confidence? I don't believe it would lessen any man's confidence. On the other hand, there seems to be a commonly shared idea (at least on the 'net, from what I've seen) that for a shy virgin, or whatever, seeing an escort will help you learn things you otherwise wouldn't, and thus *improve* confidence. I'm just not sure about this idea. Any thoughts?

Seeing escorts does help improve confidence. If you see them often, eventually, an insecure / non-confident man will feel more experienced and comfortable around women and therefore will be better prepared for dealing with real women. Not to say that if they go on a real date with a real women, they will be successful but they will definitely come across as more confident.
 
I really think this is the wrong message to send to guys who struggle with confidence issues. They already face a great deal of problems in life, and getting an STD from a prostitute will only make their problems go from bad to worse. Condoms are not perfect and you can't trust these women to be clean. Saying that sleeping with prostitutes will help improve confidence is, to me, like saying that doing hard drugs will help you improve creativity. A lot of rock stars died from thinking like that. There has to be a different way, a better way.

Besides, I don't see how paying someone to have sex with you makes you feel like you are a more attractive person. If one is truly attractive, one wouldn't have to pay for it.

What about instead of going to prostitutes and risking getting a terrible disease and giving money ultimately to criminals, or instead of going to strip clubs and going home with no further understanding of how to get a girlfriend, you take that same money you are already willing to spend and hire a men's life coach or a dating expert? There is no shame in this, and neither is there any risk. You get to learn how to get in control of your mind and create confidence and attraction naturally. You have to learn how to create an attractive life (still working on it myself).
 
I've decided I'm going to travel for sex. There are some countries where prostitution is not prosecuted.

You only live once.
 

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