- Oct 27, 2018
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Enpatsu No Shakugan said:LostintheBardo said:Enpatsu No Shakugan said:LostintheBardo said:All drugs should be legalized in my opinion or at least decriminalized. Whether you like it or not, the war on drugs approach has never succeeded anywhere.
Enpatsu No Shakugan said:No. I know it's harmless and has some effects, but I just don't care for it. I remember being annoyed when this was only being being rallied for by obvious stoners, and they were hamming up "effects" and all that. I just wanted to say, "Come on, you just want to get high, stop bullshitting."
That is a really stupid reason to be against legalization of something just because you "don't care for it." People shouldn't have to fear ending up with a criminal record (or sent to prison in a minority of cases) just for something that is far less harmful than Alcohol. Also, legalization isn't proven to cause a jump in consumption.
You do also realize that those "stoners" you are talking about can usually get high regardless right?
I don't have strong preferences either way, but why would I ever want to cater to people I don't like and give them what they want?
Um, maybe in recognition of the fact that those people in the very least probably don't deserve to be criminalized on such a basis? For what it's worth, I'm not much a fan of anime, I certainly don't think the people who do like it should have to watch it in secret to avoid legal prosecution of any kind.
I'd like to add that Cannabis has helped me to come out of a really self-destructive phase of my life and that I think I would have ruined my entire 20s (I've just turned 28) if I hadn't got into it. I'm in a much healthier mindset nowadays and am focused on what matters in life. Just another perspective to consider.
Why do you care so much about my opinion anyway? Just disagree and move on. Or did you want this entire topic to just be an echo-chamber for you?
And wow, so because you needed to use drugs to ease your life, that makes it viable and okay for everyone else? Such a sound and riveting argument.
Good for you. It doesn't apply to me. And in fact, I'd recommend just about any other solution to digging oneself out of that predicament than what you chose. What other treatments did you try, by chance, or even consider? You seem to put way too much faith in that this solution was literally the only one that could've possibly worked.
I doubt that, nor do I find it a sound argument for your pro-stance whatsoever.
Reading comprehension apparently isn't your strength because I made it clear that I mentioned my personal example as another perspective, I did not say I was using it as an argument for or against legalization.
Maybe I care to respond because I'm sick of the stupid comments that always get thrown around in debates like this and yours were a particularly sad example of that. And someone whose main argument against legalization is that they "don't care for it" doesn't really have any credibility to define what is or isn't a compelling argument on anything for that matter.
"You seem to put way too much faith in that this solution was literally the only one that could've possibly worked."
You really should think more carefully about what a strawman is before you accuse anyone else of making use of one because this is a perfect example of one from your end. Nowhere did I say that it was the only solution, just the one that happened to work at the time. And I wasn't "trying" any other treatment at the time because I did not realize the predicament I was actually in until I was forced to confront it from said usage. Could have there been other options? I don't know and I don't see why it matters at this point. And what I'm referring to had nothing to do with "Cannabis easing my life" (again, amazing how much you assume about something you know nothing about) but how it made me confront a lot of aspects about myself that I didn't like. This was actually one of the most challenging experiences of my life, far from making it easy.
It's interesting to note that you say you'd recommend just about any solution above the one I chose and yet you do not give a reason as to why you would. What for instance would make you think it's a worse alternative to a large number of pharmaceuticals, many of which can have quite serious side effects? I suspect the reason for your vagueness is that you don't actually have anything specific about what it is you think is apparently so harmful about Cannabis. I would never say it's harmless or that it should be smoked everyday but the way you write makes it sound like your argument is more based on prejudice than anything else. It's funny how people who have never got into it seem to be the most arrogant about it.
I'm perfectly fine with it if you don't find my personal experience as a compelling reason for legalization as I've already given plenty of those in my preceding comments, none of which you've refuted. Portugal's decriminalization policy towards all drugs also speaks for itself, they used to have the highest overdose rates of any country in the EU and now they have the lowest.