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xephier102

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I was only diagnosed at the age of 39, I'm 40 now. Worst part imo is that my brain never shuts tfu.. (it's 5:51am and I ain't slept yet..)

Contrary to popular belief, autistic people aren't stupid, we just aren't popular, because we don't wear kid gloves in adult conversations, and we're too smart to converse well with stupid people (most neurotypicals in the modern day).
 

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Who knows ...back in the day was undiagnosed....like in never hear even name in my youth 1960s/1970s. On Youtube finally found women and autism and been looking at some videos.
Why I look....is several females I know who have traits but not sure if they are it.
 

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I was only diagnosed at the age of 39, I'm 40 now. Worst part imo is that my brain never shuts tfu.. (it's 5:51am and I ain't slept yet..)

Contrary to popular belief, autistic people aren't stupid, we just aren't popular, because we don't wear kid gloves in adult conversations, and we're too smart to converse well with stupid people (most neurotypicals in the modern day).
Looking down on others isn’t good if you don’t like people liking down on you.
 

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There are persons in the autistic spectrum in mine and my wife's family. They come across as not quite right. They do have a hard time.

I'll ask, what is normal? These family members aren't having difficulty from their deficits. The difficulty comes from those they interact with. People are simple creatures that respond to those that can shine in the limelight. It seems the most cherished quality is the gift of gab. If you don't have it (proverbial you) you aren't worthy.

There are people out there that work for the betterment of mankind and do amazing things. But they are never put on a pedestal like movie stars, singers, and sports figures. It escapes me why a person that entertains us for two hours is more revered than those that fight fires, lay down their lives to protect us, or even just the guy that invented the LED (without which none of our current technology would work).

People will never see your value if your specialty isn't something that entertains them. We are just taken for granted.

So I'll tell you, do what you do well, make yourself content and don't put a lot of expectation into those people that follow the shiny things.
 

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There are persons in the autistic spectrum in mine and my wife's family. They come across as not quite right. They do have a hard time.

I'll ask, what is normal? These family members aren't having difficulty from their deficits. The difficulty comes from those they interact with. People are simple creatures that respond to those that can shine in the limelight.
People aren't as 'simple' as they seem. I mean, most are these days, but only because they've been dumbed down by the semi-useless education system, and terrible direction of the mainstream media.

The discovery channel used to be educational, now it's fulla backwoods hick shows like Auction Wars.. And nearly every non-documentary/kids show made past 2k10(ish), is a perpetual running alcohol advertisement. Like, sure, if the people weren't dumb enough after watching shit like Auction Wars, get em hooked on a liquid that'll make em stupid AF... Then make them believe that life is impossible without it.

And for decades now, TV/movies and everything else, has been teaching us that only good looking people deserve to exist, and [ugly people] definitely don't deserve to be loved.. And also that sex is the only thing that matters in relationships. Hence most relationships these days don't last (because the average person would rather date someone that they'd look good with in a porno, than someone that they actually get along with).

And now we've got the internet, which is slowly becoming worse (in a sense). More and more censorship of unpopular opinion, or opinions that oppose the current government/corporations.

On that note, does anyone remember the 'Sorry bro, got your money' meme? Cuz it seems to have completely disappeared from google searches (Ironic, cuz I'm fairly sure that's the unspoken motto down at Microsoft)..

Point is, mainstream media keeps people stupid, hooked on addictions, overly fearful of things they don't need to be afraid of, and in general, focused on anything but the important issues, as well as pandering to popular (yet relatively irrelevant) politics. I could expand more on that, but that will require a post of it's own, and I just got up, lol.
 

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And those that fall for most of what you said don't have the brain power to think their way through it. To me, that's simple. Not that I disagree with you, no, not at all. But people will generally chase the shiny things because it doesn't take any thought.
 

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And those that fall for most of what you said don't have the brain power to think their way through it. To me, that's simple. Not that I disagree with you, no, not at all. But people will generally chase the shiny things because it doesn't take any thought.
Take the path of least resistance. Yea.. But that's the education system for ya. Public schools at least. They teach people to listen, copy, follow instructions. This is why I don't have my grade 12 yet.. I've tried upgrading a couple times, but I'm not overly compatible with the current curriculum. I'd have had it wrapped up ages ago if it focused on creativity and expressionism, but it's just listen, copy, follow instructions.. And that's what gets pushed into people's heads as children, when they're most impressionable. That's why so many people still believe in religion, despite the complete lack of evidence. Well, that or desperation, or a mix of the two.

I hate to use the term 'brainwashing', because it makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it's not out of context for the way people are being raised in modern day society. They do it in a rather tricky way at that. They don't necessarily tell people what to think, or what they can or can't think, but they raise people to only believe a singular information source; whether that be the government, religion, corporations .etc.

In other words, only believe in those with money/power, and as such, they have many of us fighting the few that would oppose that formula (calling one another anti-patriotic, communist .etc, or just laughing off any idea that isn't mainstream). So they have people confusing the modern day Martin Luther Kings (that would alter their messed up perception of society), with Hitler. It doesn't help that many of those that are frustrated enough to stand against the system, often come across as radicals, since they're typically driven by anger, and people can sense that. And psychologically, people shy away from anger; so if you show anger, you've often lost the argument before it's even started.
 

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so if you show anger, you've often lost the argument before it's even started.

Anger is only useful in a physical altercation. It can give you force and intimidation. But it doesn't help with rational thinking, which is what you need when you're trying to make a point. Sure the school system sucks. Teachers like to focus on the brilliant. It's easier than having to actually understand how to teach someone that doesn't get it. The thing is, the brilliant student doesn't need a teacher, only direction. It's the ones that fall behind that need to be taught how to catch up. Most often they are labeled and discarded.

It's the same with parents. They teach their children to be good little kids, failing to see that we are only children for 1/5 of our lives. Parents should teach their children how to be adults.

From my experience you'll never get help with what you need. You can either fall down on your deficits or you can rise above them by taking on the responsibility of rectifying those deficits on your own. We live in a perfect environment to become self taught. In my case what I'd taught myself was learned too late to help me through school. I didn't have an Internet. But kids today can look up anything and learn all they want. It's all out there.

It's hard to face the fact of those that are supposed to love you and try to understand you are so willing to tell you when you are wrong, but don't take the time to tell you what's right. This post is my experience. I don't know yours. If you take nothing else from this, take that you can improve yourself. It's effort. But think of it...you get to decide where you go from here.
 

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It's the ones that fall behind that need to be taught how to catch up. Most often they are labeled and discarded.
Actually my point about the education system goes beyond my own bias. The way they 'teach' kids, isn't efficient even for the 'brilliant' ones. Hell, I coulda been one of the brilliant ones if only my teachers woulda listened to me.

But the entire curriculum is screwy.. I've got to take grade 11-12 math, in order to take a college course in graphic design.. that's like having to learn how to take care of dogs, so you can fly an airplane..

For the most part, unless you're going to become some form of scientist or mathematician, you don't really need any math that a calculator can't do for you. So that's a buncha wasted years for a lot of kids that will never use what they're taught in practical application (and will forget most of it the moment they're not studying it).. and that's just one subject. I could go into much deeper detail to all that's wrong with the education system.

It's the same with parents. They teach their children to be good little kids, failing to see that we are only children for 1/5 of our lives. Parents should teach their children how to be adults.

Don't teach them how to be adults, treat them like adults, and through that, they will learn how to be adults. Thing is, kids are a lot smarter than they let on. We were all kids at some point, and when we were, we didn't think of ourselves as lesser beings, beyond what we were told by others. So, treat a kid like they're mature, they'll be more likely to act mature, but constantly talk down to them, throw your weight around and condescend to them, and they will eventually rebel, this is why teenagers typically rebel. It's not hormones or w.e. it's the kid reaching an age in which they get sick and tired of being treated like an idiot semi-slave, instead of as a person.

It's hard to face the fact of those that are supposed to love you and try to understand you are so willing to tell you when you are wrong, but don't take the time to tell you what's right. This post is my experience. I don't know yours. If you take nothing else from this, take that you can improve yourself. It's effort. But think of it...you get to decide where you go from here.
I'm 40, lol. I'm well aware of my options. I'm attempting upgrading again this month. Tbh, the main thing that's been holding me back is that unlike the rest of the world, I'm just not all that interested in money. Because I know that no matter how much I have, it won't make me happy. Sure, happier than being broke, but still not worth the effort.

That's the thing, I know that I can accomplish anything if I put my mind to it (because im damned smart compared to the average individual), but even I can't force someone to love me, and without that, it's all pretty pointless..
 

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I was diagnosed in 2016. It's not something I generally like to talk about, or open about. So, I'm not saying anything more right now.

Peace xx
 

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I don't know where you are, but if you are in America, you'd be quite surprised how many options kids have today to learn. Even the "regular ole dumb ones" have a shit ton of options. It also matters who is advocating for you and what kind of interventionists are in the schools. Many public schools have excellent staff that fight for every kid, regardless of what their intelligence is. You are 40 and have no children, so how exactly do you know what goes on in schools today? I bet there's a lot that you don't know about, regardless of whether you are in America or not.
 

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My school experience is like... Nixon administration. I don't have any clue to how schools today are. I was thrown out of school in 9th grade. Not for being disruptive or trouble. I just skipped as much as I went. But rather than assisting me with the issues involved, they quit me. In as much as they were paid to do what they didn't, it's just human nature. A new teacher wants to help all. A new cop wants to make a difference. A new congressman wants to fix government. Time goes on and that enthusiasm vanishes. The chore seems too big. So they devolve into a slot where they do as little as they have to while still being paid.

My experience as a parent is more contemporary. In the early part of the new century my son was repeatedly disciplined in school. The things they accused him of were out of character, at least from my perspective. It continued, he'd been suspended a number of times.

I was eventually allowed a meeting with the principal, his teacher, and one of the last students to accuse him along with the boys parent. The boy finally confessed that my son hadn't done what he was accused of. It was a game among the boys to see how much trouble they could get my son into. These were his second to fifth grade years. It had gone on long enough to give my son a reputation for trouble-making. They would stage a lookout and when a teacher was approaching they'd goad my son into fighting back or some other prank to make my son look guilty.

His teacher that last year literally hated him and had no interest in uncovering the circumstances. Accusing him was just matter-of-fact.

The other boys were confronted. We got an apology from the principal, a halfhearted apology from the teacher, but the damage had been done to my son.

While it was the shenanigans of the boys, it was the teacher's responsibility to pursue the claims from my son. Instead he was labeled a liar and punished for the things the other boys did. My experience with school systems doesn't instill me with confidence in them.

I'll advocate for teachers getting a living wage, and for the school-board to supply materials and supplies. It comes from my view that teachers mold the future and they aren't given their due. Better benefits means better teachers. We cannot expect to have people to solve world issues if we pick and chose those that we feel deserve to be educated. The greatest minds in the world were, from some perspective, trouble students.

A difficult student needs more attention, not less. Is that the consensus today?
 

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