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It's called, "sour grapes," or for the psychologically inclined, the perhaps related, "cognitive dissonance."

From the fable, "The Fox and The Grapes."

"Common cope?" I'm not a grammar specialist; but, I think, 'cope,' is only a verb, not a noun. "Compensating," though not very technical a term, would probably be more accurate and possibly more grammatically correct. As in, "She carries a small purse to compensate for her big ego."

or

"...Men, who are unsuccessful romantically, often compensate by taking up nihilistic positions and view points..."

Having sour grapes is a pretty common phenomena. Intellectualizing can be a common way of compensating for lack of whatever and what have you. I do it quite often... heh..

--edit: and cope can be a noun... I still think good old fashion compensation beats woo-woo-new-age-psychobabble any day of the week though. :mad:
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Now who wants a hug? 🤣

--edit #2: ahh, but, 'to cope,' as a verb, is not the same as the various definitions of, 'cope,' the noun!
'Cope' is modern slang for frequently employed coping mechanisms/strategies.
 

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From Psychology Today:

"Toxic positivity is the act of avoiding, suppressing, or rejecting negative emotions or experiences. This may take the form of denying your own emotions or someone else denying your emotions, insisting on positive thinking instead. Although setting aside difficult emotions is sometimes necessary temporarily, denying negative feelings long term is harmful because it can prevent people from processing their emotions and overcoming their distress."

In my own experience, it is reality itself which can often drive depression rather than the other way around-especially for the very long term lonely.
If I thought, "Psychology Today," was a useful source of information; I'd probably adopt a fatalistic nihilism myself... Seems it'd be the only antidote.

Fortunately I think Pop Psychology can go F itself; for the most part... It's ruining the English language for me, and I'm sick of it.

As for reality, it's all rather personal, I suppose. Not all the time, though; I'd like to think.
 
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If I thought, "Psychology Today," was a useful source of information; I'd probably adopt a fatalistic nihilism myself... Seems it'd be the only antidote.

Fortunately I think Pop Psychology can go F itself; for the most part... It's ruining the English language for me, and I'm sick of it.

As for reality, it's all rather personal, I suppose. Not all the time, though; I'd like to think.
That was merely one source-if you are interested you can do a google search yourself & find many others which explain the recognized phenomenon of toxic positivity. In fact, your resistance to accepting that it exists may be an example of toxic positivity.
 

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Nihilism is an idea people entertain when they're well-fed and bored. Take away the food and/or add in a challenge, a difficulty, something that absolutely must be overcome and all nihilism will in effect quickly disappear.
Perhaps you should do some study on the subject because your opinions about it are ill informed. It is instead a cogent philosophy which rejects objective truth, moral values and meaning in life. It is the belief that nothing has any inherent meaning or purpose.
 

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That was merely one source-if you are interested you can do a google search yourself & find many others which explain the recognized phenomenon of toxic positivity. In fact, your resistance to accepting that it exists may be an example of toxic positivity.
Well, I don't use Google; but, thnx for the suggestion.
 

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Perhaps you should do some study on the subject because your opinions about it are ill informed. It is instead a cogent philosophy which rejects objective truth, moral values and meaning in life. It is the belief that nothing has any inherent meaning or purpose.


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...Shouldn't that be epistemological?

If the Wojak in the comic were rather an epistemological nihilist, whatever that means in more precise terms, I can only imagine he would act as if he were unsure of everything, and unable to ascertain the real nature of his knowledge and intellectual faculties, but he himself wouldn't actually disappear, as in the comic. Being an ontological nihilist, we're led to believe that this is the same as a denial of all ontological fundaments, which, if were true, would mean that there's no nature to being, that being does not exist. The contradiction in sustaining that being is not real is ironically demonstrated by making Wojak disappear just after stating his philosophy.
 

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Thinking about it, a similar joke could be made. Wojak exclaims "I'm an epistemological nihilist!", only to ask, later on "or am I?".
 

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If the Wojak in the comic were rather an epistemological nihilist, whatever that means in more precise terms, I can only imagine he would act as if he were unsure of everything, and unable to ascertain the real nature of his knowledge and intellectual faculties, but he himself wouldn't actually disappear, as in the comic. Being an ontological nihilist, we're led to believe that this is the same as a denial of all ontological fundaments, which, if were true, would mean that there's no nature to being, that being does not exist. The contradiction in sustaining that being is not real is ironically demonstrated by making Wojak disappear just after stating his philosophy.
I see. It just seems that epistemology is closer to the idea of truth/meaning.
 
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More excellent discourse from the same content creator about what he refers to as the "cult of positivity" which several posters on this forum seem to subscribe to.

 

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There is no problem whatsoever as long as you can find your match, eh.
It is more of an issue if you only fall for women who are "out of your league".
Oh christ, they're all out of my league!

My point is that I've kept myself in good health and want to do exciting things, but as we get older everyone else tends to move away from that, and would rather spend their Saturday mornings at a garden centre than going to the gym on a hangover 😂
 

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Oh christ, they're all out of my league!

My point is that I've kept myself in good health and want to do exciting things, but as we get older everyone else tends to move away from that, and would rather spend their Saturday mornings at a garden centre than going to the gym on a hangover 😂
How old are you, if you don't mind.

I feel the same about aging. Even if I could find someone I was into, chances are our 'lifestyle' would involve not much more than taking the dogs for a walk gardening/home maintenance and maybe the odd catch-up with (her) friends once every 6 months.
 

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Even if I could find someone I was into, chances are our 'lifestyle' would involve not much more than taking the dogs for a walk gardening/home maintenance and maybe the odd catch-up with (her) friends once every 6 months.
God bless if you mean that.

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How old are you, if you don't mind.

I feel the same about aging. Even if I could find someone I was into, chances are our 'lifestyle' would involve not much more than taking the dogs for a walk gardening/home maintenance and maybe the odd catch-up with (her) friends once every 6 months.

31, my dude!

Not 'old' I know, but old enough for people to begin to move on with their lives, do less exciting things. Even my male friends have gotten a bit like that, they sit in front of their computer working from home, then for leisure they sit in front of their computer at home. I'm not saying I'm out here jumping jetskis over sharks, but when I try to get something adventurous with the friends my own age, it just doesn't get a good response. However when I speak to my male friends who are mid 20s, they're up for it.
 

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