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Jack C

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The liquidation of those municipality's, those who's posturing and imagined self importance have overcome them with cases of slant and all kinds of injustices deserve to experience onerous labour!

It's the natural order of society that those who toil should be entitled to the great empire of civilisation they have created.

But these retrospective renegades who's principles are founded upon the continuation of seditious contortions, these are the counter-revolutionary obstructionists in the way!

These people are responsible for every horrific and heinous occurrences in history.
All of the destitution, famine, rape, murder, incarceration and genocide. Every instance of Slavery, Torture, War, economic and political instability and Unlawful annexation. Every Theft, every infraction. Every Exploitation, oppression, subjugation, negligence and subordination. Everything deleterious is the fault of these people's flaws.

Those who voted them In, or more truthfully those who were bought and brainwashed into voting them or simply just despotic regimes, all is the fault of these flawed and unprincipled people. Not necessarily democratic regimes, any regime in which one has ruled over another, are the results of human conceit, subject and folly.

Today we have, yet again, another immoral and corrupt system of Capitalism, one that must be destroyed!

An alternative: communism. No hierarchy, each is governed by each, that is, the Workers! Once we overcome the alienation the masses experience because of Capitalism, for it is mans natural state to work collectively, as is the species of bee.

We work together, produce together, and thrive off the fruits our labour creates together. This is how it should be, but capital and naked self interests have obtrusively encroached upon our foundation as beings.

Generation, the one that believes the subordination and exploitation of a lower stratum of society is necessary for the stability and order of a Society, is the beginning of a new form of slavery. However, It's the realisation that there's an alternative that makes one half way to emancipation, but the exploitation remains obscure to the toilers. Ignorance and apathy should not be the foundation of societal stability!

For the Lebensraum is nigh, approaching the forefront of each toilers mind.
The Bourgeoisie have plundered numerously the fruits of rapacious imperialistic colonial conquest, reaping in the subjugation of people's and polluting their culture!
O' how It is nigh that these people shall arise, that the ignorance of capital influence has given way to other forms of reactionary revolution.

Indeed, on another instance, that reactionary dominion of the right wing fascists! Feasting off the prejudice and misplaced fears of the masses, these people survive on subjective irrationalities. These people are the lackeys of the bourgeoisie.

The power that one can wield, when enlightened, is more might than all of the Gods. The creation far more pleasing and suited to our nature.

No longer shall we reside in the substandard conditions, no longer shall we bend in acquiescence or be flattered by the sight of a higher stratum. Instead, the laws by which we shall inundate society into discontent, a stage necessary for a revolution of love and peace, shall be Instituted into the principles the proles bound themselves by! Flippant behaviour against authority, that monolithic authority that is no longer of the people, any decent revolution must come from the bottom upwards, not from the top downwards! The acknowledgement of the fatuous and frivolous Capitalist system, the actualisation of the proletariat is necessary and agitation must begin instantly! Everything good resides in the mobilisation of the workers.
 
Well, at least it's less rude and, "destroy everything," than the other attempts.
Debating whether to explain the holes in this plan or just say, "ah," and move on to the next thread.
 
We've been there before...

But I'm sure people would pay to listen to you preaching them this truth from a stage. People are still quite receptible to charismatic personalities telling them when to raise their hands...against whoever enemy is convenient at the moment.
 
I recommend reading this: http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc9912/lies.htm
Marxism is not to be taken in a vacuum. It is a very deep, scientific and philosophical subject and requires much study. Historical materialism and Dialectical Materialism, pillars of Marxian economics and thought. Anybody who pulls up an historical refutation of Communism, wether from China or East Germany, has no idea what they are talking about. They have no idea about history, the external problems surrounding, at one point the United States was in japan preparing to attack china! Economic uncertainty, discontent amongst the masses, etc. There are so many factors that go into determining the failure to successfully implement socialism. But, in a word, it's simply capitalist sabotage. All the belligerent and rapacious capitalist countries never gave a Lebensraum for the movement to develop free of external threat, and even the domestic threat.
Capitalism has killed over 1.6 billion people! Communism is innocent.
 
Mosquitos kill more people each year than humans do. Heart disease killed 17.5 million people in 2012 alone.

The point you ask? Perhaps there are more important things to look at than whatever your big words are babbling on about.
 
This "capitalist sabotage," you're speaking of is human nature. We strive to gain. That is the flaw of communism. Now, if this were a reality and people could accept it, (and provided government corruption did not exist) then yes, it would be rather nice. For now however, history has shown time and time again the flaws of communism through its easily accessible exploitation.

Also, when you're looking for sources to support your argument, might I recommend not referencing a member of a revolutionary party? This can come across as propaganda and really doesn't shine a good light on this philosophy if you're trying to persuade us...
 
Communism is innocent? The Ukraine under Stalin. North Korea now. Just for starters.
 
For the record: In a sense Communism itself is innocent, because what we've come to know as 'Communism' has always been an abomination of the original idea. All previous attempts of an application of communistic ideas failed because of human nature itself. Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba, the German Democratic Republic...the list goes on. Of course they were (or still are) flawed because they were made by humans. I used to call myself a communist, but I've grown out of this pipe dream. Nowadays I know that's all raw idealism which leads nowhere...

Communism is opposed to human nature which is exactly why it's not working. Humanity is insatiable. That's also a basic economic principle - the same reason why we will never be able to live in paradise where everyone of us is happy and content.

Enough ranting. I don't care much for radical ideologies anyway. But I know enough about human nature...
 
I'm sure communism would be fine if humans didn't screw it up with their corruption and greed. After reading accounts by people who have escaped North Korea and hearing stories from a close friend who lived in the Soviet Union, I can't support those type of policies. Screw communism.

-Teresa
 
A European style democracy where government takes a large role in redistributing wealth and the provision of health care and housing would be preferable to communism. Allow people enough freedom so they apply themselves but prevent the accumulation of obscene levels of wealth amongst a few. I doubt it would work in an American context though, there's too much worship of the elite and general suspicion of one's neighbour.
 
Mr Seal The Albatros said:
This "capitalist sabotage," you're speaking of is human nature. We strive to gain. That is the flaw of communism. Now, if this were a reality and people could accept it, (and provided government corruption did not exist) then yes, it would be rather nice. For now however, history has shown time and time again the flaws of communism through its easily accessible exploitation.

Also, when you're looking for sources to support your argument, might I recommend not referencing a member of a revolutionary party? This can come across as propaganda and really doesn't shine a good light on this philosophy if you're trying to persuade us...

You're a total ******* moron. The world needs less of you reactionary fools!
There is no innate or unchanging “human nature.” People’s thinking, behavior, values, and our very conceptions of “human nature,” are shaped by the economic structure and corresponding institutions and culture of a given society. Ancient Greek society and America’s “founding fathers” regarded slavery as perfectly “normal.” Capitalism is organized around the private accumulation of profit and economic competition. Selfishness, greed, and individualism are rewarded by the workings of capitalism and promoted by the institutions of capitalist society. They are not “hard-wired” into our genes, nor are racism and male supremacy embedded in some “evolutionary psychology” of our species. Regardless if my link was by a fellow comrade, if you actually stopped being so apathetic and researched the evidence and references we present, you wouldn't be writing some stupid bullshit on this forum. Communsim is mans real nature, Marx wrote extensively on this but I don't expect an idiot like yourself to know anything about philosophy, histroy, politics and Economics. I'm proven correct by your vacuous reply. Man is naturally a cooperative species, working together like bees do in a sense. It's mans natural state and capitalism has corrupted it.


Go learn about Marxism before posting stupid ******* bullshit you retards
 
Jack C said:
Mr Seal The Albatros said:
This "capitalist sabotage," you're speaking of is human nature. We strive to gain. That is the flaw of communism. Now, if this were a reality and people could accept it, (and provided government corruption did not exist) then yes, it would be rather nice. For now however, history has shown time and time again the flaws of communism through its easily accessible exploitation.

Also, when you're looking for sources to support your argument, might I recommend not referencing a member of a revolutionary party? This can come across as propaganda and really doesn't shine a good light on this philosophy if you're trying to persuade us...

You're a total ******* moron.


Go learn about Marxism before posting stupid ******* bullshit you retards



Don't insult my boo, will ya. :rolleyes:

We're still on a lonely forum, not a history forum. If you want to have a proper discussion about stuff like that, find the appropriate place instead of insulting people who were so kind to try to engage into a conversation with you. :rolleyes:
 

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