ok ive read a lot of the posts and replies over last year and find it hard to believe that other people are lonely for any reason except choice....now i dont know if you mean lonely with no friends or lonely no partner.... heres my story as i seriously doubt anyone has had my crap luck with woman.... im now 57 and all my life ive heard everyone tell me that ill find someone....where do i start im 57, a virgin with a very high iq but im definitely not a geek or a pub goer..... ive not been able to even get a woman to kiss me except twice on cheek from friends.....ive heard all the advice and tried it and have only ever known 1 other person who was anywhere as unlucky as me.....im fine during the day as i have a lot of friends mainly male but there are a few woman i know.....most of my friends have no problems getting a girl for relationship or 1 night stand....i go out with 5 guys meet 5 ladies and the 5 woman talk, dance and laygh with the other 4 guys and im alone all night , i get totally ignored....3 times in my life female friends have swiped me one as im the perfect guy for them except im too ugly to be with ...its always the looks thing.....i live in the worst city for single men....sydney...thers a plethora of woman but there all under 23.....wherever i go looking for a lady over 35 its just wall to wall men and woman under 30 or over 65 and married.... im quite athletic but in reality ive never really spoken to a woman other at a counter or a friends gf... not 1 woman has ever asked me my name zip.....ive got thousands of situations where ive hit on a woman and end up sitting down with a male friend sad having a losers cappucino as i call it....ive done so many classes,skate,dance venues etc etc in my life and zip.....it appears the world is one big orgy with me on outside ...as a matter its a total mystery to me how the world is overpopulated as even a conversation with a woman over a cafe seems so out of reach..... i reckon ive got over 200 bad luck stories but thats too depressing.... on the good side ive got two lovely parents who are worried to death over me.... oh if anyone says see a pro, well where...ive tried all over the world....thailand, amsterdam sorry its crap ive wasted millions trying to just get laid, ive herd so many sorry but the girls....blahh blah blah.....australia is NOT the lucky country if your a single lonely man.......one eg.... i liked this woman who frequented friends place.... there was me and this other dude...a lot shorter ,weighed 115 kgs (very overweight and wore bifocals)...he got the girl i didnt...so my friend enquired of her why she chose other guy....she said yes his ugly and fat but he's a nice guy.....what about ....(me) and the reply was yes he's a nice guy but he's ugly....QED