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Sceptical1

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Seriously I think they do. I'm a really average guy, I have good hygiene and I'm not a perv or creep lol, and as far as I can tell Im average looking. I'm just really shy and introverted with everyone and girls are no exception. Maybe that's why they hate me. I do have self respect though, and I'm not depressed or anything. Girls just give me the cold shoulder feeling and it makes it just as hard to talk to them as anyone else. Also, occasionally girls bully me, which I can't figure out. I'm not that nerdy either I don't think, so it just seems strange.
 
Well I'm a girl and I don't hate you. Don't assume they automatically hate you now just because they give you the cold shoulder. I find girls are usually more sensitive to picking up things about people and your shyness might be putting them off.

Do you have a close female friend? Try talking to her about it, or even practicing on her lol. It simple steps, trying to start conversations with girls, light teasing and etc.
 
Sceptical1 said:
Seriously I think they do. I'm a really average guy, I have good hygiene and I'm not a perv or creep lol, and as far as I can tell Im average looking. I'm just really shy and introverted with everyone and girls are no exception. Maybe that's why they hate me. I do have self respect though, and I'm not depressed or anything. Girls just give me the cold shoulder feeling and it makes it just as hard to talk to them as anyone else. Also, occasionally girls bully me, which I can't figure out. I'm not that nerdy either I don't think, so it just seems strange.

I think its kinda the same with me, although i dont get bullied by girls, im just so **** shy that i cant talk to a girl if i dont know them well, and how am i going to know them well when i cant talk to them.
 
But you seem okay talking with them here, ShybutHi - true, an internet forum setting is not quite the same as real life...but you can get to know someone pretty well. Just because it's not a face-to-face meeting doesn't make it any less worthwhile or valuable.

Sceptical1 - what form does this bullying take? You know, a bit of light-hearted joshing from a lady can be a sign that she likes you.
 
Electric_Fusilier said:
But you seem okay talking with them here, ShybutHi - true, an internet forum setting is not quite the same as real life...but you can get to know someone pretty well. Just because it's not a face-to-face meeting doesn't make it any less worthwhile or valuable.

Yes i suppose that is true. I have no problem talking on a forum, i have been using the internet for yeeeeears so im completely used to talking to strangers on the internet. When it comes to real life though i have very low self-esteem and i get mental block when talking to people i dont know quite often but especially if its a girl i find attractive im terrible at it. It makes me feel so depressed. :(

Its probably due to my upbringing and i think im probably the ugliest biological entity in the universe, combine that with someone who is shy to the point that conversing is very difficult unless its the other asking questions and well, say no more.
 
You know, it would seem that they "hate you" and give you the cold shoulder if you did the same to them. Open up a bit and we'd open up to you. If you sit alone, you'll be alone. I don't see the harm in being more open. You don't have to spill your heart out, just your mind.
 
Shybuthi - let me tell you about Dave.

I knew Dave when I was a kid. My dad was a motor-mechanic, you see, and he used to do a lot of private jobs in order to make ends meet. One of his regular customers was Dave. Dave was a driving instructor, and often needed repairs on his vehicle.

I'll never forget the way Dave looked. He was short, pudgy, middle-aged and had a kind of beaky nose. He was also one of those bald guys who sported a stringy comb-over, as if that were fooling anyone. Dave was not wealthy; he had two children to support from a divorce, and as I said before - he was just a driving instructor, and needed my dad to do private repairs on his car because he probably couldn't afford a proper garage.

What I've told you about Dave is no exagerration. What is also no exagerration that Dave was a formidable babe-magnet who annoyed the fresia out of other guys, because they just could not see how he did it. My dad, and pretty much every other motor-mechanic, were kind of in awe of him. Because Dave dated a hell of a lot of **** fine looking women, and had quite a few **** fine looking girlfriends along the way, too.

Even to this day - I don't see Dave anymore, so don't know what became of him - I and my dad still wonder as to the secret of Dave's success with women. Perhaps he was the ultimate PUA...and yet, from what I can remember, he just didn't seem the type: none of that AMOG bullshit, just a softly spoken bloke who seemed almost sad a lot of the time. Perhaps he just had a lot of natural charisma. Perhaps he was just lucky, and was fortunate enough only to ever meet women who went for the small, fat, comb-over look. Or perhaps he just had that certain something that a lot of women like. Whatever it was, Dave had it, and if he could have bottled it and sold it, he would have been a billionaire.

The only insight I ever had to Dave's attractiveness was what I got from my Mum. 'He was just very nice to talk to,' she said. AFAIA, my mum and Dave did not have an affair. I hope not, anyway. Scary thoughts!

Do looks matter? Of course! But to what extent? Well, who knows. But remember Dave, and raise a toast to him; the guy who proved that you do not have to have everything - looks or wealth - in order to have that certain something.

And if Dave can have it, then why can't anyone else? ;)
 
Nice read electric, although this dave guy i guess didnt have social anxiety problems???? I think social anxiety is probably more of a problem than looks anyway but if your not a looker by any means and are really shy it seems people avoid talking to you because i guess it makes them feel a bit uneasy.
 
^^LOL - well, I did wonder if Dave was a donkey dong. But think about it - he had to get the ladies interested in the first place, and you can't do that by indecently exposing yourself, no matter how big a package you have.

Nah, Dave definitely had something. Maybe it was just confidence - a quiet, unassuming but nevertheless powerful confidence. Perhaps the women picked up on that - a guy so confident, he just exuded the fact that he had nothing to prove. Or perhaps ... he just has a talent for knownig the right things to say. Lord knows.

In any case, Dave proves that there's no need to get hung up on looks or status. Nope, it was his personality - there was something powerfully attractive there. And personalities can be developed, can they not? All Hail the Dave!
 
So, I guess the bottom line is that overcoming my shyness is the key here, I really need to put forth the extra effort and try to be understanding and easy to talk to, especially with girls since they're more in touch with feelings. I think the internet is helpfull because it helps me to practice articulating my thoughts to other people, and I also like writing so it makes sense. As for the story about Dave that's definitely encouraging, it's a little funny too because my mom has a friend name Dave who is very similar in a lot of ways. Now about the bullying, it's nothing too serious, but it's kinda weird. An example would be on one of the last few days of school I passed these two girls from my homeroom in the hallway after school. They were both listening to the same iPod and looked at me a little funny, as I passed by them and they started singing the song really loudly obviously directed at me since I was the only one there; it was really bizarre. So yeah, things like that happen to me a lot, is that normal?
 
^^I dunno. I wouldn't go so far to call it bullying. Could you be being a bit over-sensitive perhaps? At worst, it could be a little bit of light-hearted joshing; or maybe it was something else completely, and you misinterpreted it.

Look on the bright side - at least they noticed you!
 
Being shy and introverted makes it hard for anybody to get closer to you. Being the opposite gender doesn't really help. Your example of bullying doesn't sound at all like bullying. Were the lyrics, "I'm gonna kick your arse" or some such thing?
 
Hah no, I think it was beyonce actually. Yeah, I don't really think it's that serious so I guess it isn't bullying... it's just weird and it happens a lot, but I guess it happens to everyone? Idk.
 
Girls don't usually sing to me, so I'd guess it doesn't happen a lot or to everyone... That doesn't make it bullying, though. I mean, everybody doesn't win the lottery, either. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't count as bullying.
 
nerdygirl said:
I mean, everybody doesn't win the lottery, either. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't count as bullying.

I've heard that as an excuse to not gamble: "For you to win, others have to lose!"

I just snicker and think, "Well, DUHHHHhhh that's how it works, smarty!" If others take the risk and end up losing, it's no skin off my nose. It's not like my abstinence from gambling would stop THEM from gambling and losing. And losing is also the risk that I take. So it's not bullying and it's not unfair (except in casinos... lol).

With that said, I don't gamble much. :p
 
Yeah, I can see how it isn't really bullying, I mean they're aren't asking ne for my lunch money or anything like that. Like electic said it's more like joshing, maybe it's because I seem geeky or something... still it's weird
 
^^^Yeah, don't automatically take it as bullying. Girls like to tease guys, and vice versa.

Did you consider that maybe they're flirting with you?
 
No idea, I'm pretty oblivious to that, my friend's older sister used to flirt with me and i never noticed until my friend pointed it out to me. That could be it, but who knows.
 

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