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Triple Bogey said:
If that's the case then ask her for a proper date ?
Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

Yeah im definitely going to ask that. I'm worried what her reaction will be though, perhaps she never wants to see me again.
Im so crazy about her that im searching and reading several articles on how to impress a woman lol.
 
Newsflash :
You can get an STD from any female that you fall in love with, escort or not. Unless you magically meet a never-touched pure virgin, chances are better than none that she could have an STD. and, she might hide it from you.
My ex slept with numerous guys while we were together, I never knew - as bipolar gals are very good at manipulation and lying. but, to her credit, she told me she was clean. My other recent ex has herpes and I only found out later by her recent ex fiance. I got tested, and I'm clear.
Most escorts generally have a routine where they take good care of their female equipment - regular checkups with their gyno. after all, sex is their business.
Now, the street-walkin' ladies and the fly-by-night escorts (those who do not have reviews by clients published on-line) who charge a lot less, well. you take your chances.
I understand the younger guys point of view as to why one should pass on an escort. But there are those of us who are much older, and tired of hoping for the best. While i would sell my soul for a FWB option, I can't hope for that, either.
 
ABrokenMan said:
Most escorts generally have a routine where they take good care of their female equipment - regular checkups with their gyno. after all, sex is their business.

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's their business and if someone doesn't know any other way to make a higher wage, I don't think it would stop them, STDs or not. I think they would just keep trying to make money for as long as possible because they just don't know any other way and might feel they have to while they still can.

ABrokenMan said:
I understand the younger guys point of view as to why one should pass on an escort. But there are those of us who are much older, and tired of hoping for the best. While i would sell my soul for a FWB option, I can't hope for that, either.

I'm tired of hoping too at this point, but I just have to keep it alive. Because once I have no hope left, that's when I'll slip into despair for good and I don't want that to happen.
 
my first time gave me this massive amount of confidence.
Before then I couldn't talk to people, I had no confidence. I certainly couldn't talk to women.
I had been unemployed for years and soon after I got a job and everything seemed different.
My previous jobs, I couldn't cope. Nobody liked me, I could communicate. I was always worried about making mistakes.
And then at this new job I could chat with people easily, I was no longer frightened of women.

When you think about how embarrassing it is, everyday situations seemed easy.
I've never told anybody. Nobody knows.
I only go about 5 or 6 times a year.


Hawx79 said:
Triple Bogey said:
If that's the case then ask her for a proper date ?
Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

Yeah im definitely going to ask that. I'm worried what her reaction will be though, perhaps she never wants to see me again.
Im so crazy about her that im searching and reading several articles on how to impress a woman lol.

I've been there. Just get it out of your system. Ask because you never know. And if it doesn't work out, somebody else will come along and she won't be so important.
 
Triple Bogey said:
my first time gave me this massive amount of confidence.
Before then I couldn't talk to people, I had no confidence. I certainly couldn't talk to women.
I had been unemployed for years and soon after I got a job and everything seemed different.
My previous jobs, I couldn't cope. Nobody liked me, I could communicate. I was always worried about making mistakes.
And then at this new job I could chat with people easily, I was no longer frightened of women.

When you think about how embarrassing it is, everyday situations seemed easy.
I've never told anybody. Nobody knows.
I only go about 5 or 6 times a year.

All the same, I think you could have gotten the same results another, safer healthier way and I think you guys are playing with fire. I mean, I went from a similar situation to where I am now - not perfect but better, and all without hooking up or using escorts. I just got this way from reading and thinking. Again, nobody likes a preachy person, I get that. But you, Hawx, and whoever else here that was talking about using escort services, you seem like good people and I'd hate to find out something terrible happened to you, especially when it could have been avoided easily.
 
er... not to get up on my high horse... but I wouldn't want to live with it.
 
TheSkaFish said:
Triple Bogey said:
my first time gave me this massive amount of confidence.
Before then I couldn't talk to people, I had no confidence. I certainly couldn't talk to women.
I had been unemployed for years and soon after I got a job and everything seemed different.
My previous jobs, I couldn't cope. Nobody liked me, I could communicate. I was always worried about making mistakes.
And then at this new job I could chat with people easily, I was no longer frightened of women.

When you think about how embarrassing it is, everyday situations seemed easy.
I've never told anybody. Nobody knows.
I only go about 5 or 6 times a year.

All the same, I think you could have gotten the same results another, safer healthier way and I think you guys are playing with fire. I mean, I went from a similar situation to where I am now - not perfect but better, and all without hooking up or using escorts. I just got this way from reading and thinking. Again, nobody likes a preachy person, I get that. But you, Hawx, and whoever else here that was talking about using escort services, you seem like good people and I'd hate to find out something terrible happened to you, especially when it could have been avoided easily.

I wish I didn't have to but I can't get a 1st date with a woman. Never mind a relationship.
 
I need help.
If I see her again and not having sex would she respect me?
I want her to really like me and im going to ask her for a date when I see her.
I have no sense of humor and a lot of silent moments can happen, so all I got for myself going is being respectful and act like gentleman. Im preparing by reading articles online on tip on woman and writing down notes on what to talk about, trying to make her laugh and being at ease with me.
I hope something will come out of this as she is all I think about.
I know she will be my only and last chance ever of having a girlfriend.
If she refuses me ill get really depressed and down. I'd be willing to do anything for her and I hope she can she that.
 
Hawx79 said:
I need help.
If I see her again and not having sex would she respect me?
I want her to really like me and im going to ask her for a date when I see her.
I have no sense of humor and a lot of silent moments can happen, so all I got for myself going is being respectful and act like gentleman. Im preparing by reading articles online on tip on woman and writing down notes on what to talk about, trying to make her laugh and being at ease with me.
I hope something will come out of this as she is all I think about.
I know she will be my only and last chance ever of having a girlfriend.
If she refuses me ill get really depressed and down. I'd be willing to do anything for her and I hope she can she that.

But you see, the fact that you are willing to do anything for her is already the problem. I'd bet she's already not going to be at ease, because of the nature of the situation.

How about working on you a little bit?

You said you have no sense of humor - that can't be true. Growing up people always thought I was too serious too since I never joked around or anything. But I do have a sense of humor, there's lots of things I find funny. Dry comedy, slapstick, mockumentaries, there's lots of things I enjoy. Sometimes I even laugh at things that aren't even meant to be funny, and wind up looking pretty weird. I remember bursting out laughing at some phrases in poetry class once, it was kind of strange because no one else laughed. Whatever. I was enjoying myself.

What makes you laugh? What makes you laugh just thinking about it, what makes you turn all red in the face and burst? There's got to be something.

This isn't your last chance, man. It just can't be. People are probably saying I'm one to talk, not having a girlfriend myself. But it wouldn't be right to just sit here and watch someone engage in reckless behavior like this. It's really dangerous.
 
Hawx79 said:
I need help.
If I see her again and not having sex would she respect me?
I want her to really like me and im going to ask her for a date when I see her.
I have no sense of humor and a lot of silent moments can happen, so all I got for myself going is being respectful and act like gentleman. Im preparing by reading articles online on tip on woman and writing down notes on what to talk about, trying to make her laugh and being at ease with me.
I hope something will come out of this as she is all I think about.
I know she will be my only and last chance ever of having a girlfriend.
If she refuses me ill get really depressed and down. I'd be willing to do anything for her and I hope she can she that.

Go and get some help. Talk to somebody.
Your fixation with this woman sound unhealthy.
 
Hawx79 said:
I couldn't bare the loneliness anymore so I called an escort service.

I see nothing wrong in doing this on a regular basis. If you can afford it, why not? Go out with a pretty girl and maybe have sex. All relationships are conditional to some extent. At least this way you know exactly where you stand. Just don't start falling in love with them!
 
Triple Bogey said:
I haven't had any problems in 17 years. Never go bareback is one rule.
Some people haven't got the time for a relationship. Some people can't get dates. It will always go on.

Aye, as it always has. This is the world's oldest profession, or at least, that's what everyone says.

As for myself, I've never gone to one, but I know a friend who has. The problem for me is not as much with the health concern (though that is there) but because they require money to spend any time with you. I'd want an intimate encounter with someone who at least has a slight interest in me, or likes *something* about me, not just my dough.


Triple Bogey said:
I wish I didn't have to but I can't get a 1st date with a woman. Never mind a relationship.

Don't mean to harp on this again or sidetrack the thread... but we've all said this one before, you need to ask them out first. Don't expect them to ask you.

It may take 20 tries, 50 tries, 100 tries. Not too painful right? (slight smirk)
 
Hawx79 said:
I need help.
If I see her again and not having sex would she respect me?
I want her to really like me and im going to ask her for a date when I see her.
I have no sense of humor and a lot of silent moments can happen, so all I got for myself going is being respectful and act like gentleman. Im preparing by reading articles online on tip on woman and writing down notes on what to talk about, trying to make her laugh and being at ease with me.
I hope something will come out of this as she is all I think about.
I know she will be my only and last chance ever of having a girlfriend.
If she refuses me ill get really depressed and down. I'd be willing to do anything for her and I hope she can she that.

Honestly, I truly seeing this going horribly wrong for you.
She isn't there to love you. You have no idea that she "answered your questions truly." What girl is going to admit to wanting to be an escort for her entire life? For all you know, she could have a boyfriend already. Again, certainly not something she is likely to admit too. It's her job to please you and make you happy. I don't see you laying down the cards of the house, kids, and white picket fence working.
I think she's going to look at you like some crazy stalker dude and man... that's not going to be pretty. I think you need to take a big step (or several) back from this and take a good hard look at how you're going to come across...
 
Batman55 said:
Triple Bogey said:
I haven't had any problems in 17 years. Never go bareback is one rule.
Some people haven't got the time for a relationship. Some people can't get dates. It will always go on.

Aye, as it always has. This is the world's oldest profession, or at least, that's what everyone says.

As for myself, I've never gone to one, but I know a friend who has. The problem for me is not as much with the health concern (though that is there) but because they require money to spend any time with you. I'd want an intimate encounter with someone who at least has a slight interest in me, or likes *something* about me, not just my dough.


Triple Bogey said:
I wish I didn't have to but I can't get a 1st date with a woman. Never mind a relationship.

Don't mean to harp on this again or sidetrack the thread... but we've all said this one before, you need to ask them out first. Don't expect them to ask you.

It may take 20 tries, 50 tries, 100 tries. Not too painful right? (slight smirk)



sounds very painful !
 
TheSkaFish said:
But you see, the fact that you are willing to do anything for her is already the problem. I'd bet she's already not going to be at ease, because of the nature of the situation.

How about working on you a little bit?

You said you have no sense of humor - that can't be true. Growing up people always thought I was too serious too since I never joked around or anything. But I do have a sense of humor, there's lots of things I find funny. Dry comedy, slapstick, mockumentaries, there's lots of things I enjoy. Sometimes I even laugh at things that aren't even meant to be funny, and wind up looking pretty weird. I remember bursting out laughing at some phrases in poetry class once, it was kind of strange because no one else laughed. Whatever. I was enjoying myself.

What makes you laugh? What makes you laugh just thinking about it, what makes you turn all red in the face and burst? There's got to be something.

This isn't your last chance, man. It just can't be. People are probably saying I'm one to talk, not having a girlfriend myself. But it wouldn't be right to just sit here and watch someone engage in reckless behavior like this. It's really dangerous.

JHK said:
Honestly, I truly seeing this going horribly wrong for you.
She isn't there to love you. You have no idea that she "answered your questions truly." What girl is going to admit to wanting to be an escort for her entire life? For all you know, she could have a boyfriend already. Again, certainly not something she is likely to admit too. It's her job to please you and make you happy. I don't see you laying down the cards of the house, kids, and white picket fence working.
I think she's going to look at you like some crazy stalker dude and man... that's not going to be pretty. I think you need to take a big step (or several) back from this and take a good hard look at how you're going to come across...

Yes you're both right. Inside I am desperate making her to like me but I will try my best to stay cool and not to come on too strong.
What I will do trying to have a fun light conversations, being nice and then ask her for a date.
However at the end, if I see she is still rejects to me ill give into my desperation and just unload my heart to her, that way I wouldn't have blown it up anyway and ill probably feel better.
Do you guys have any more tips I should say to make her at ease and make her laugh?
Im going to call her Sunday, and im already nervous. And im definitely not going to have sex.
 
Hawx79 said:
However at the end, if I see she is still rejects to me ill give into my desperation and just unload my heart to her, that way I wouldn't have blown it up anyway and ill probably feel better.
Do you guys have any more tips I should say to make her at ease and make her laugh?
Im going to call her Sunday, and im already nervous. And im definitely not going to have sex.

Ah no, this whole thing is bad news. Every time I have poured my heart out to a girl, it's only resulted in fighting. It doesn't work. It seems that you can't pour your heart out to someone unless it is already established that you are dating, and have been dating for a long time. Otherwise girls just see it as weak and lame. I hate the whole "guys have to be tough all the time" thing, but unfortunately in the early stages of getting to know a girl, it seems that being stoic is required.

All I can say is try and figure out how to become actually become attractive to women, and stop calling escorts, have nothing more to do with them. All it takes is one mistake to completely ruin your life for good. Get out while you still have your health, while you still have a chance to start a new life. I believe 100% that the only reason you or I or anyone else has difficulty attracting the opposite sex is because of the stories we've grown up believing about ourselves. That goes for women too, who think they just can't attract someone. I believe everyone is born able to attract someone, we just convince ourselves that we can't for some reason because we tell ourselves that we are this person who isn't attractive, that's just the way it is. No it isn't. But thinking you need to rely on escorts and then acting on it by calling them only reinforces this belief that there is something wrong with you, that this is all you can get.

Change your story! It won't happen overnight, that's why it's hard, because it's not instant. But it's ultimately the way it's supposed to be. Re-set your story.
 
Hawx79 said:
Yes you're both right. Inside I am desperate making her to like me but I will try my best to stay cool and not to come on too strong.
What I will do trying to have a fun light conversations, being nice and then ask her for a date.
However at the end, if I see she is still rejects to me ill give into my desperation and just unload my heart to her, that way I wouldn't have blown it up anyway and ill probably feel better.
Do you guys have any more tips I should say to make her at ease and make her laugh?
Im going to call her Sunday, and im already nervous. And im definitely not going to have sex.

If in the end, you see she is still in rejection mode, just let it go. I think the worst thing you can is "pour your heart out". I put that in quotes because I don't truly believe this is what you really want. If she rejects you at the end, she isn't going to change your mind when throw everything else at her. You're going to make yourself feel like honeysuckle and make her have a real awkward, bad day at work. That's how I see it.

I have no tips for making her at ease and to make her laugh. That depends on who she is, and I probably know her as well as you do.

Is there no other option (and I don't care if people use escorts or not. You can get anything from anyone, escorts or not) for dating? It's just a horrible way to try to and get a girlfriend. If she were on the street, her boss would put a .45 in your head.
That's another thing. If you really freak her out, what are you doing to do if she lodges a complaint and you can't use those services? These girls are the cash flow and these companies protect them seriously.
What if she on call with some other dude, and they offer to send another? Does it start over?

You got three days. I'd give it some serious though. Good luck in whatever you decide, though..
 
JHK said:
Hawx79 said:
Yes you're both right. Inside I am desperate making her to like me but I will try my best to stay cool and not to come on too strong.
What I will do trying to have a fun light conversations, being nice and then ask her for a date.
However at the end, if I see she is still rejects to me ill give into my desperation and just unload my heart to her, that way I wouldn't have blown it up anyway and ill probably feel better.
Do you guys have any more tips I should say to make her at ease and make her laugh?
Im going to call her Sunday, and im already nervous. And im definitely not going to have sex.

If in the end, you see she is still in rejection mode, just let it go. I think the worst thing you can is "pour your heart out". I put that in quotes because I don't truly believe this is what you really want. If she rejects you at the end, she isn't going to change your mind when throw everything else at her. You're going to make yourself feel like honeysuckle and make her have a real awkward, bad day at work. That's how I see it.

I have no tips for making her at ease and to make her laugh. That depends on who she is, and I probably know her as well as you do.

Is there no other option (and I don't care if people use escorts or not. You can get anything from anyone, escorts or not) for dating? It's just a horrible way to try to and get a girlfriend. If she were on the street, her boss would put a .45 in your head.
That's another thing. If you really freak her out, what are you doing to do if she lodges a complaint and you can't use those services? These girls are the cash flow and these companies protect them seriously.
What if she on call with some other dude, and they offer to send another? Does it start over?

You got three days. I'd give it some serious though. Good luck in whatever you decide, though..

Someone told me today that there is actually nothing wrong pouring out your heart to a girl as long if its from your heart. She will notice you are being serious and may even be bedazzled in a good way by you.
I don't know who to follow advice from now.
 
Hawx79 said:
JHK said:
Hawx79 said:
Yes you're both right. Inside I am desperate making her to like me but I will try my best to stay cool and not to come on too strong.
What I will do trying to have a fun light conversations, being nice and then ask her for a date.
However at the end, if I see she is still rejects to me ill give into my desperation and just unload my heart to her, that way I wouldn't have blown it up anyway and ill probably feel better.
Do you guys have any more tips I should say to make her at ease and make her laugh?
Im going to call her Sunday, and im already nervous. And im definitely not going to have sex.

If in the end, you see she is still in rejection mode, just let it go. I think the worst thing you can is "pour your heart out". I put that in quotes because I don't truly believe this is what you really want. If she rejects you at the end, she isn't going to change your mind when throw everything else at her. You're going to make yourself feel like honeysuckle and make her have a real awkward, bad day at work. That's how I see it.

I have no tips for making her at ease and to make her laugh. That depends on who she is, and I probably know her as well as you do.

Is there no other option (and I don't care if people use escorts or not. You can get anything from anyone, escorts or not) for dating? It's just a horrible way to try to and get a girlfriend. If she were on the street, her boss would put a .45 in your head.
That's another thing. If you really freak her out, what are you doing to do if she lodges a complaint and you can't use those services? These girls are the cash flow and these companies protect them seriously.
What if she on call with some other dude, and they offer to send another? Does it start over?

You got three days. I'd give it some serious though. Good luck in whatever you decide, though..

Someone told me today that there is actually nothing wrong pouring out your heart to a girl as long if its from your heart. She will notice you are being serious and may even be bedazzled in a good way by you.
I don't know who to follow advice from now.

Maybe a girl that you met casually, in a bar or a dating service where you met on casual terms. But a hired call girl?
You have to keep in mind that these girls are professional. They are paid to make you happy and say what you want to hear and do what you want to do because that is their pay cheque. You really have no clue about who this girl is. She could be an utter ***** from hell when there is no cash involved.
Again, I have no problem with escorts, though I've never used them. But I think they need to be looked at as just a business transaction.
Have you looked into dating services or whatnot?
 
Nothing personal, but you do not come across as strong enough emotionally to be able to handle the situation, let alone the certain rejection.
However, if you are really interested and insist on a course of action, just hook up with her as if you were planning for sex, and see how she reacts with a casual conversation. Tell her you just want someone to listen, but DO NOT pour your heart out. Keep it casual, tell her about being lonely in genersl terms. Then, at the end, casually ask her if she'd like to get together sometime, just to hang out. You HAVE to go VERY slow. Impatience and desperation = failure.

I know people here try to provide a positive attitude and all, but life is not that way.
 
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