Liapos said:
Q#1
If an ultimate being (a god) was evil, would you oppose it? If yes, even if it meant eternal and unremitting torture?
lol, if God created something why he would be evil ? Besides even if He (pretty evil) made others for his little experiment (just for topic something simple like nations that will fight each other to rule the Earth) we would be created like he wants, so I hardly doubted that there will be alot of people thinking that rape, killing etc are bad things. You wouldn't know what is bad or what is wrong....not right you wouldn't feel like you are doing something wrong cuz you will have another moral.
Realy if you want you can search info through history.....what God says is the ultimate, almost noone resist it.
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Liapos is proposing a hypothetical question, he is not talking about any one god in particular. He isn't trying to claim that the Christian god (or any other known religious figure) is evil in this statement, merely asking if you found an ultimate being/god to be evil, would you oppose them upon finding out they were evil, and if you would, would you still do so, knowing that you will be tortured for eternity?
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Q#2
If you were that ultimate being, would you not necessarily punish, but distinguish those who objected to your rule from those who did not? If not, how would you deal with rapists, murderers, and child molesters?
If I was WHO ? Scheme is already here lol. I don't know what might happened from the Begining but now I know the nowadays rules, why do I need to invent a bicycle? Everybody to the hell, well ofcourse each individual will be rejudjed and then some second chance to see how rightful he become.
Q#3
Suppose for the sake of argument that the Judeo-Christian god of the Bible is revealed to be the one true god. Would you hold him in contempt? Even if it meant being separated from those you love for all eternity?
Contempt ? How this will separate me from my family ? He revealed, so what ? Everyone are happy and live as before this fact.
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**con⋅tempt
/kənˈtɛmpt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-tempt] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the feeling with which a person regards anything considered mean, vile, or worthless; disdain; scorn.
2. the state of being despised; dishonor; disgrace.
3. Law.
a. willful disobedience to or open disrespect for the rules or orders of a court (contempt of court) or legislative body.
b. an act showing such disrespect.
Origin:
1350–1400; ME (< AF) < L contemptus a slighting = contemn(ere) to despise, scorn (see contemn ) + -tus suffix of v. action (with loss of n and intrusive p)
According to the bible/beliefs of the Christian/Jewish faiths, if you were to hold Him in contempt, you would be sent to Hell, whereas if your family and friends did not, they would be allowed into heaven, thus you'd be separated for eternity.
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I ask because questions like these are some of the central themes to the story I'm writing. If a god is unjust but all-powerful, are there creatures who would oppose his ultimate tyranny in the face of certain damnation?
First two questions are fine but the third is misty and incomprehensible. You didn't give a reason, nothing. It is like 1,2,5,6,7 HEY where are 3 and 4 O_O ? Think of it and let us know.
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Us? I understood his questioning just fine. I think you might perhaps be taking his questions too literally or personally, when he is only asking hypothetical questions to help him along with writing his story which deals a lot with the questions he was asking:
Liapos said:
I ask because questions like these are some of the central themes to the story I'm writing.
See?
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Lonesome Crow said:
There's plenty of countries or cilizations in this world that are not christians nor beliving in GOD.
Actaully more than half of the world's religion today are not christain.
More than half of the worlds population today don't beliving in god or are religious.
Emm, moral already spread in the world, so that doesn't mean anything.
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Yes, it does mean something. Morals and god are two separate things. I have morals but I am not religious. I'm not actually sure if I believe in a god of any sort, yet I still have morals. They do not go hand in hand. There are plenty of morale people who are not religious/atheist, and plenty of people who ARE religious and who have little to no morals. There have been so many people over centuries and generations claiming to kill, maim, or injure another for "the sake of (their) god", from just about every religion that exists or has existed. While I'm not condemning any particular religions, my point is that you do not need to have religion or a belief in a religion in order to be moral or create just laws.
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Errr..the roman empire was around before christinity ever came to light....
So ? When were romans moral people ? Just some of them may be but hell the most of them were sin pigs.
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If it weren't for the Romans (Constantine) Christianity wouldn't have become so popular, and might not even be in existence today. If it weren't for Constantine converting to Christianity, more than likely it would have died out like most budding religions around that time. So, your first major Christians were "sin pigs", as you called them.
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