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On November 4th I will vote:

  • Obama

    Votes: 10 62.5%
  • McCain

    Votes: 6 37.5%

  • Total voters
    16

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I am not letting this forum go without the election thread, guys, sorry. :D

I care way too much about you and your opinions and this is a way too friendly forum to see this opportunity wasted and I know it won't turn into another bloodshed, right? ;)

As we all know, what is likely to turn into the most historic election day in the history of our world is one month away to the day. Even though just two weeks ago it seemed like it is going be another count-every-vote situation, the latest polls show that Barack Obama is an Ohio away from becoming the first African American President in the history of the United States.

Judging by the same polls, Democratic nominees have won both debates so far and political experts say John McCain better think of something new very soon if he wants to swing the undecideds to his side before it's too late. If he doesn't, the historic election day may likely turn out to be a pretty boring one as well.

As of the polls conducted last Monday, Barack Obama has 250 electoral votes -- 160 of which are safe -- and needs a maximum of four toss up states to win the election (or just one if it brings at least 20 electoral votes like Ohio), whereas John McCain, the way states are divided between colors at the moment, needs at least 7 out of 8 of those same toss up states - one of which being Wisconsin which hasn't been won by a Republican presidential nominee in the last 24 years (even Michael Dukakis beat George H. W. Bush in 1988 in Wisconsin).

As of last Wednesday, John McCain headquarters - aware that the state is slipping away - decided to drop out of the Michigan race and use the newly gained financial resources to put their focus on the remaining toss ups with the emphasis on the two with the biggest electorat gain - Ohio and, guess what, Florida.

So, let's hear it from you Americans on this forum (old enough to vote and underage). We all know that if it were up to the rest of the world, it would be a landslide for ... well, I guess we all know who. But you are the ones whose opinions will count on November 4th.

In one month exactly, which ticket will get your vote - Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin?

Please cast your vote in the poll and if you don't have a problem stating your decision publicly, please explain why in the thread. The poll is private and others can't see who you voted for.

Thanks in advance. :)
 
McCain becuase of Sarah.
I don't agree with everything from both parties.

I'm not easily brain washed my the media and thier so call experts
and spin miesters.lol
If you're republican...watch FOX
If you're democrat...watch NBC or CBS

Obama been in the senate or in washington forever.
What has he done all those years to make any different ...nothing.lol
He's been campaining for almost 2 years to be the presidentcy. So it's self serving. Obviously he's doing a shitty job or not doing it
at all, as a senator. lol
He's tainted.

Sarah being an outside.
She'll rock the boat or ruffle some feathers.
She also took on the big boys and gave them spankings.lol ( she made a differents).
I belive she's a no non-sence kind of person and you wouldn't want to be her enemy
or tick her off.lol
In other words..I belive she's the strongest person out of all them. And she'll push
the **** nuke button if she has a bad hair day.lol
So, the world needs to striaghten out a little bit and stop fucken around.lmao

Mostly it's becuase she's fresh meat or the purest out of them all.

If worst comes to worst..if she happens to turn out to be like the rest of the politicians...she's easier on my eyes.lmao

So much for the freaken bailout being a hot patato.lol
They tooks a **** vacation and now that it passed
Notice..now they said it'll take months to never for anything to happen. The citizens of USA got suckered again.lmao

Didn't they say the sky was going to fall if the bill didn't passed ?
And it was eurgent ????:club:

We're screwed.lol

As far a the mortage melt down. My buddy and I use to go into
work everyday building those **** houses...We thought we
were making good money. But everyday..we asked ourselves,
who in the hell can afford to buy the **** houses ??lol
If we couldn't afford it...and we made more money then
the average person. Something was wrong ....
$500 down to move into a $350,000 house didn't sound right.lol

It was the taxes breakes that government created.
You bascailly get a gaint taxes break only the first 2 years, if
you buy a new home. So everybody started doing the crap
and do the stupid flipping thing. Bascailly it's like free rent
and flip the house for profit.

A $175,000 home double in vaule overnight to $300,000. Everybody got greedy. Freanken, money for nothing....sit on a property for a year or two..and sell it for $150,000- $200,000 profit ?
It's too good to be true and it can't last forever.
It's coming home to roots..lmoa

And how in the hell is government going to make profit
buying loans to houses people can't afford to buy or over valued ?:rolleyes:

Obviously..I'd be pretty t-off too if the government
bailout the home owners...Becuase god **** it, they
better buy me a **** house too...espeacially if i built them.lmao
Capitalism or socialism...I don't give a ^%$#@. it's wacked out
either way.lol
 
I'm vaguely wondering how anyone could watch Katie Couric's interview of Sarah Palin and still want to vote for her.


 
If I did vote, I would vote third party anyway.

However the fact that people seriously consider voting for the numbskull beauty queen and half-fascist the old guy make me want to vote for Obama just to cancel out their vote.
 
Unacceptance said:
If I did vote, I would vote third party anyway.

However the fact that people seriously consider voting for the numbskull beauty queen and half-fascist the old guy make me want to vote for Obama just to cancel out their vote.

lmao..back in the days, the term use to describe people like
Obama is Uncle TOM...lmao

Like I said...power to the pupils.lol
 
Lonesome Crow said:
Unacceptance said:
If I did vote, I would vote third party anyway.

However the fact that people seriously consider voting for the numbskull beauty queen and half-fascist the old guy make me want to vote for Obama just to cancel out their vote.

lmao..back in the days, the term use to describe people like
Obama is Uncle TOM...lmao

Like I said...power to the pupils.lol

I'm not quite sure what your racist statements have to do with the fact the geriatric guy is too out of touch with reality who himself said "I do not agree with the majority of the American people" (What in the hell is he doing trying to represent the nation then?) and a woman who will try to turn America into a Theocracy who is referred to as McCain's "pitbull." (A female dog you say?)

In either case both sides are full of bullshit, as is usual, both are going to be stealing my money and spending it on honeysuckle I don't want them to which will be fairly equal amounts http://www.electiontaxes.com/.

So what is your point? Aside from misquoting Power to the People?
 
Unacceptance said:
In either case both sides are full of bullshit, as is usual, both are going to be stealing my money and spending it on honeysuckle I don't want them to which will be fairly equal amounts

You win the thread.

That said, Obama is, and perhaps by a good margin, the lesser evil.
 
I'm afraid that I can't really respond to this thread yet. I have no idea, at this point, who I will vote for. The foreign policy debate (which briefly touched on the economy) just didn't leave me with enough information to help make a decision. I think that everyone knows that the election this year will be about voting for the lesser of two evils. I've actually stated this same thing in a previous thread, by another member, a few months ago. Both candidates have a plethora of skills to bring to the position, but each of them also have some serious deficiencies and glaring issues. Also, the VPs are the polar opposites of the candidates.
I was hoping that perhaps the VP debate would help, but alas, that was a bust. Meh....we'll see what happens on Tuesday night when McCain and Obama go at it again. *shrugs*

Sidenote: Rocket, I must sharply disagree with your assessment on Obama, as far as the "Uncle Tom" comment goes, which is indeed, a rather racist comment. However, you've never struck me as being racist, just to clarify. A poor choice of words, perhaps?
 
But the last election was the same as I recalled it.
Bush and Gore...Bush and Gore.lol

How can I be a **** racist when all my **** life, I've been descriminate against ?
I'm not white but I'm not black either.
You know what it feels like when you busted your ass and serve my country, just so people
can say whatever the hell they want or even burn the red , white and blue.
Yes, I'd die to preserve those rights for people.
I earned the motha..with blood , sweat and tears.
I'm prode of my country no matter how messed up it can be.

Obama dosn't speak for me that's for **** sure no matter what color skin he has.

well...I think i earned the rights to say or belive whatever the heck I want too.lol
 
The ignorance of Sarah Palin really disgusts me.

Dont take my word for it tho, watch this.


FOX distorts the truth to an insane point. Heres a video showing you how FOX attacks OBAMA the same way they attacked Kerry back in 2004. lol using the same words and sentences lol that doesnt happen with CBS or other stations. and fresia O'Reilly.

other stations are waaay more truthful than FOX. seriously.



Sarah Palin's GREATEST HITS


VP candidate of united states are supposed to know these things.
Sarah palin is FOR teach creationism in public schools. that means less money for your kids arts and music program. why cant kids learn that on their own time in sunday schools?

Obama = Tax cut for 95% middle class families (income under a quarter million a year)
McCain = Tax cut for Fortune 500 companies, "keep jobs in the US", it wont becaus other countries still have lower taxes than US, so companies will still ship jobs oversea. and 5000$ healthcare credit for families, at the same time, taxing the health benefits.

and PLEASE take a few moments to watch these McCain Videos, they will open your mind.

How McCain opposes Alt. Energy plan, gets money from Oil COmpanies, creating less jobs. "drill baby drill"


How "out of touch" McCain is on Economic


How Great his tax plan is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwtayJCK5LY

McCain is always vague on abortion. MCcain is actually anti-choice. meaning no abortion for rape and incest victims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAAYxCCT-Bg

McCain doesn't know crap on the Iraq War. He flip flops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG1aOORf8Pc

McCain and his campaign manager Rick Davis BUSTED for lying about ties to failed mortgage giant Freddie Mack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-pg5lsbBP4

Define Rich, Give me a specific number. Where do you move from middle class to rich?

MCCAIN: "If you're just talking about income, how about five million?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP-0pedQeGw&feature=related

PLEASE WATCH THESE VIDEOS AND REFLECT YOUR OPINIONS. Dont just reply and say im wrong, watch these videos at least. i respect your opinions. you should respect mine by watch these videos. its all I ask.
I was all for Ron Paul...
 
Lonesome Crow said:
But the last election was the same as I recalled it.
Bush and Gore...Bush and Gore.lol

How can I be a **** racist when all my **** life, I've been descriminate against ?
I'm not white but I'm not black either.
You know what it feels like when you busted your ass and serve my country, just so people
can say whatever the hell they want or even burn the red , white and blue.
Yes, I'd die to preserve those rights for people.
I earned the motha..with blood , sweat and tears.
I'm prode of my country no matter how messed up it can be.

Obama dosn't speak for me that's for **** sure no matter what color skin he has.

well...I think i earned the rights to say or belive whatever the heck I want too.lol

Dude! Whooaahhhh!!! I dont know if those comments were directed at me, but as I said in my post, I never considered you a racists and yes, I know you're neither black nor white, but ALL colors/races/sexes are discriminated against by SOMEONE.
 
im so glad that many people on this forum support Obama. i dont get people that want to vote for mccain. i havent heard any rational, sensible reasons that will make me want to vote for mccain one bit, so please, CONVINCE ME TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN, as i have yet heard one logical argument.

the last thing we need in the office is some old geezer who think its still the 40's/60's/70's. the whole reason why this country is messed up its because of the greedy powerful older people who think they should govern the country the way it was governed 30, 40 years ago. times are different now. we dont need another george bush (mccain voted 90% with Bush) or dick cheney (DICK was exec of haliburton, a large oil and gas company, same as Sarah Palin who is the governor of a large oil producing state) its the same bullshit again. unless you are a fortune 500 ceo or have over millions of dollars, you have to be pretty ignorant to vote to mccain. who cares about race and gender?? seriously, the race or gender shouldnt even matter in this election. what matters most is how well the candidate can solve the problems we have right now. PALIN in all her debate and interview, does NOT know jackshit. if you actually listened word by word from her. aside from what mccain calls "gotcha moments" there are almost no "gotcha" moments with Obama,or biden. maybe a few when obama was just starting public service from years ago.

unfortunately, we have ignorant people who take gender and race very seriously in this election. in constitution "all men are created equal"
constitution is a joke nowadays with lawmakers, its great isnt it?

i love this country, i moved here 8 years ago. i say this to people that complain and complain about how messed up this country is, you have 3 options, first, why dont you just leave US? no one is making you stay. if you cant leave, why not try to make this country better by being reasonable about all this?? or you just dont vote and stfu, and continue ***** and moan. just how i see it

i can certain go back to my home country if i wanted to, but i chose NOT to because this country is awesome. it wont be anymore when mccain is in office, thats for certain.

thats why instead of voting for nader or ron paul, id like to at least make a differnce by voting obama.

again i respect all of your opinions. id like to hear yours.
 
Don't trip man...they're not debating how they're going to make life better for me or save me money.
They're debating on how much money they'e going to take out of my pay check and how to spend it.lol They use to take $600 out of my
check every god **** week..And they're going to tell me how
wonderful they are , if i don't have to pay more at the end of the
year or get $50 back.lol Hell, $50 dosn't even fill up a tank of gas
anymore...so i can go to work and them more **** money.lol

This one chick was my helper...up front she made less money
than me...On the tail in, after her **** welfare checks
and all the **** government crap she gets and not having
to pay taxes like me and only has to $100 for rent..all freaken
ultilites paid. Raking the doe and driving a new car every other
year and can't even file my **** files correctly.lmao

I mean...the only reason why it was okay for my gfs to swipe my credit card all the
darn time was becuase she winked at me.lmao

Either the govenrment nor anyone of my partners had yet to send me a thank you note.lol
 
Lonesome Crow said:
But the last election was the same as I recalled it.
Bush and Gore...Bush and Gore.lol

How can I be a **** racist when all my **** life, I've been descriminate against ?
I'm not white but I'm not black either.
You know what it feels like when you busted your ass and serve my country, just so people
can say whatever the hell they want or even burn the red , white and blue.
Yes, I'd die to preserve those rights for people.
I earned the motha..with blood , sweat and tears.
I'm prode of my country no matter how messed up it can be.

Obama dosn't speak for me that's for **** sure no matter what color skin he has.

well...I think i earned the rights to say or belive whatever the heck I want too.lol

You can be racist and be any color. Being discriminated against does not necessarily give you immunity when practicing it yourself.

You have the right to believe and say whatever you want you defended the rights of others to also respond to said thoughts and beliefs within reason. If you say racist things, you will face said replies.

Seems like you are contradicting yourself a lot here. Are you holding a grudge because you did those things?
 
Unacceptance said:
Lonesome Crow said:
But the last election was the same as I recalled it.
Bush and Gore...Bush and Gore.lol

How can I be a **** racist when all my **** life, I've been descriminate against ?
I'm not white but I'm not black either.
You know what it feels like when you busted your ass and serve my country, just so people
can say whatever the hell they want or even burn the red , white and blue.
Yes, I'd die to preserve those rights for people.
I earned the motha..with blood , sweat and tears.
I'm prode of my country no matter how messed up it can be.

Obama dosn't speak for me that's for **** sure no matter what color skin he has.

well...I think i earned the rights to say or belive whatever the heck I want too.lol

You can be racist and be any color. Being discriminated against does not necessarily give you immunity when practicing it yourself.

You have the right to believe and say whatever you want you defended the rights of others to also respond to said thoughts and beliefs within reason. If you say racist things, you will face said replies.

Seems like you are contradicting yourself a lot here. Are you holding a grudge because you did those things?


Speak for yourself dude....Give a break trying to lecture me.
I can easliy say you discriminate agaist women.

I walked the talk...Freedom is not just an idea, it's something
to live and die for.

what have do done for this great nation ?
 
Lonesome Crow said:
Unacceptance said:
Lonesome Crow said:
But the last election was the same as I recalled it.
Bush and Gore...Bush and Gore.lol

How can I be a **** racist when all my **** life, I've been descriminate against ?
I'm not white but I'm not black either.
You know what it feels like when you busted your ass and serve my country, just so people
can say whatever the hell they want or even burn the red , white and blue.
Yes, I'd die to preserve those rights for people.
I earned the motha..with blood , sweat and tears.
I'm prode of my country no matter how messed up it can be.

Obama dosn't speak for me that's for **** sure no matter what color skin he has.

well...I think i earned the rights to say or belive whatever the heck I want too.lol

You can be racist and be any color. Being discriminated against does not necessarily give you immunity when practicing it yourself.

You have the right to believe and say whatever you want you defended the rights of others to also respond to said thoughts and beliefs within reason. If you say racist things, you will face said replies.

Seems like you are contradicting yourself a lot here. Are you holding a grudge because you did those things?


Speak for yourself dude....Give a break trying to lecture me.
I can easliy say you discriminate agaist women.

i walked the talk...

what have do done for this great nation ?

I probably do, I descriminate against everybody, that's the perk of being a misanthrope, however I do not openly make misogynistic statements followed by "rofl!!!" or whatever.

I fail to see what my deeds (or misdeeds) have anything to do with this discussion. It's called an Ad Hominem, look it up.

I am sorry if you believe I am trying to lecture you, who knows, maybe one day I'll be a professor.
 

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