VanillaCreme said:
They keep making accounts. And if that's against that particular forum's rules, that's not listening.
Alright, so then answer the question then. What other means do they have to explain themselves then?
What exactly do you expect someone to do if they've been rejected in a situation like that? Just give up? Is that what you want them to do in all cases a similar situation arises?
VanillaCreme said:
Making two, three, however many accounts just to try and make a point isn't really listening to begin with.
Well if you made one account and voiced your opinion and still weren't heard then I agree that the individual probably "isn't listening". But I think I might believe they aren't listening for a different reason. They should hear the message that they aren't being fairly heard and should take other measures, or simply choose to fight another day. Choosing to fight an unwinnable battle is not what I would call "listening".
VanillaCreme said:
But you don't really care to get what I'm saying anyway.
Thanks for jumping to conclusions, by the way. I appreciate being criticized out of nowhere like that. Do you regularly just peg everyone who disagrees with you as "not listening"? That's quite an irony.
Anyway, please don't jump to conclusions. I wasn't criticizing you or whatever you might think. I was listening to you. I just disagree with you. It happens from to time, I hear. But in this case I was originally agreeing with you. Perhaps just not necessarily in the way that you meant it, exactly. However, that doesn't make the point any less true.
I just think that if the rules are so designed to give the people in power authority over something, and they are wrong in their actions, that people are entirely justified in breaking the rules to correct the issue if they have no other means to be heard. And, in fact, this is how society has got to where we are today.
Just look at our social system. Look at history. Do you think the peasantry 'played by the rules' when they overthrew the Medieval feudal systems? Or would you simply just say they "weren't listening"?
Sure we're not talking about political systems here. Just forums. But my point was that it is fundamentally a significantly larger problem that extends throughout every aspect of society. That it isn't just about some stupid admin who may have made a mistake or anything like that. This is about how power and authority is seen in modern-day society. How we view it. How we understand it. How we accept it. Even how we condemn people who don't "play by the rules".
This very topic is imprinted absolutely everywhere.
History. Schools/Education. Sociology. Psychology. Science. Religion. Politics. And yes, including internet Forums. You name a topic and it's there in some form or another.
So you telling me that people who are right in every way should just keep playing by the rules, even if that creates some sort of contradiction or paradox, then I don't know what to tell you. I disagree, fundamentally, and to the very core of my being.
There are indeed times when we all must stand up for ourselves. Whether it's on a forum, in society, at school, or in our politics. There is always a time and a place for everything. And I do think you probably agree with me here to some extent.