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What is love?
#21
Whoah whah woah ah ah oh, ohhhhh ohhhhh!
Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more....



Damn this thread lol
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#22
1 Corinthians 13:4-5: “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs."

This I believe is a great start. Love is more than a concept of mankind, it is built into us. However we have our own ideas on it, we twist it, we manipulate it, we try to make it work for us. Love is not something we win, it's not something we always recieve, it is something we give. We give it because love is not something you can gain, or earn, it's something that someone chooses to give you freely. It's not love if it has conditions, that is something wicked and harmful. Love is hard to define, but easy to feel.


"A strong sword can only be forged through fire."

"Whats done, is done."
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#23
(11-06-2018, 03:56 PM)Phantimos Wrote:
(11-06-2018, 08:18 AM)Jokeshopbeard Wrote: Love by its very nature is unconditional. It only goes one way, and it never expects anything in return. Once felt, it never dies - for if anyone has ever 'fallen out of love' - I would argue that they were never truly in it in the first place.

What about unrequited love?. Is one side doomed to be in love without being loved back?

Unfortunately, yes, one side is doomed.  A person will eventually come to terms with the fact that their love is not being returned, but if you LOVE someone, rather than just liking them, the feeling never goes away.  Even if you haven't seen your loved one in decades, you love them just as much as you did before.

Look at the example of the famous poet Dante and his neighbor Beatrice.  When he met Beatrice, he immediately fell in love with her. He didn't even spend that much time with Beatrice, but she plays a major role in his most famous poems, and he looks forward to meeting her in heaven.

(11-09-2018, 03:03 PM)Fustar Wrote: 1 Corinthians 13:4-5: “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs."

This I believe is a great start. Love is more than a concept of mankind, it is built into us. However we have our own ideas on it, we twist it, we manipulate it, we try to make it work for us. Love is not something we win, it's not something we always recieve, it is something we give. We give it because love is not something you can gain, or earn, it's something that someone chooses to give you freely. It's not love if it has conditions, that is something wicked and harmful. Love is hard to define, but easy to feel.

Nice post, Fustar.
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#24
My people say that love is two hearts connecting, a powerful union that can last a lifetime or a minute.
Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame.
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#25
People are confusing it with altruism, empathy, and various religious notions around that. We don't love everyone equally. Romantic attachments in particular aren't selfless.
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#26
❤️ Selfless or self-serving, free or tied, flicker or a flame ❤️
We all have demons, I just choose to feed mine.
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#27
(11-10-2018, 12:55 PM)ardour Wrote: People are confusing it with altruism, empathy, and various religious notions around that. We don't love everyone equally. Romantic attachments in particular aren't selfless.

I would argue that it's you that's confusing it, and then projecting that confusion onto 'people'.

How do you KNOW what you state above?
She broke my heart. I didn't like that much. But that was the price. In this world, you get what you pay for.
--Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle
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#28
(11-13-2018, 05:01 AM)Jokeshopbeard Wrote:
(11-10-2018, 12:55 PM)ardour Wrote: People are confusing it with altruism, empathy, and various religious notions around that. We don't love everyone equally. Romantic attachments in particular aren't selfless.

I would argue that it's you that's confusing it, and then projecting that confusion onto 'people'.

How do you KNOW what you state above?

Ironically, I'd argue in Ardour's favor on the notion, although it's by no means an absolute truth.
Since love is, in an of itself, a self-defined notion based on experiences and interpretations of those experiences, it can indeed be misconstrued in favor of altruism, or selflessness, or even religiously defined preconceptions. Just as it can, at the same time, be irrevocably true in someone else's experiences.
I believe its undeniable a fact true love in its purest form exist. Just as it is undeniable that for many, it will NEVER exist, based on experiences accrued. I believe history has provided many an example to both sides of the argument.
Romantic interests can indeed be selfless, but In most cases are obviously not and in rare cases, most certainly are.
I'd like to propose the question of true love be a many interpratations answer that is quantifiable but ultimately personal in it's answer. And that makes it fascinating at that, much like Humans are in general Smile
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#29
As for me, love is just an expression of human sexual instinct. Of course, love is not only sex but also devotion, patience, warmth, support, etc. But love is always based on sexual instinct. Nature built this instinct in people in order they breed.
I do not want to have children, so love does not matter for me.
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#30
^^not everyone who loves each other has children.
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