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SocratesX said:huge percentage of women my age are attracted to things like tattoos, backwards baseball caps, earrings, and the whole gardenia fratboy attitude.
SophiaGrace said:SocratesX said:huge percentage of women my age are attracted to things like tattoos, backwards baseball caps, earrings, and the whole gardenia fratboy attitude.
ew. Yeah i'm not. lol.
AndrewM said:Again with the generalisations?
Look - you recognise that blacks, gays and women have absolutely nothing to do with the way you feel. The way you feel is a consequence of your father and white men treating you like honeysuckle. But even though you know this, you still play along and try to conform to their expectations, which of course never works because they only see you as a target for their bullying. And when it doesn't work, you take it out on those who don't conform to your expectations - except they're not really your expectations at all, they're the expectations of the very people (white men) who have treated you like honeysuckle. So you're basically turning into one of them, a racist misogynistic bully, without being accepted by them and without any possibility of ever being comfortable with who you are. You're never going to be happy if you keep thinking like this - in fact, you're going get yourself into a hell of a lot of trouble. Being banned from this forum is the least of your problems.
AndrewM said:Again with the generalisations?
Look - you recognise that blacks, gays and women have absolutely nothing to do with the way you feel. The way you feel is a consequence of your father and white men treating you like honeysuckle. But even though you know this, you still play along and try to conform to their expectations, which of course never works because they only see you as a target for their bullying. And when it doesn't work, you take it out on those who don't conform to your expectations - except they're not really your expectations at all, they're the expectations of the very people (white men) who have treated you like honeysuckle. So you're basically turning into one of them, a racist misogynistic bully, without being accepted by them and without any possibility of ever being comfortable with who you are. You're never going to be happy if you keep thinking like this - in fact, you're going get yourself into a hell of a lot of trouble. Being banned from this forum is the least of your problems.
SocratesX said:I didn't make any generalizations. It was pretty clear in this post that its actions that I'm frustrated with, not groups.
SocratesX said:The way I can deal with things is by getting strong (both physically and mentally), learning how to fight, dressing well and looking good, having politeness and good social skills, hard work ethic, and then using what is my god-given talent (which I guess is art, and an outside-the-box look at things) to succeed.
SocratesX said:I'm not a bad person. I'm not a bully. I'm not rude to people, even though many random people are rude to me when I try very hard to be polite.
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I hope you guys understand.
AndrewM said:... Stop being defensive ...
Minus said:AndrewM said:... Stop being defensive ...
Can you see how starting a post as you did, in response to an apology, might get someone defensive?
I do feel that you do have good points but i also want to give SocratesX credit for having the courage to look at how he has been acting.
Progress, not perfection.
AndrewM said:I'm pretty stunned by these criticisms, especially given that SocratesX was banned for saying the very things he repeats in the above post.
AndrewM said:Patting him on the head and saying "apology accepted" isn't doing him any favours.
AndrewM said:I'm pretty stunned by these criticisms, especially given that SocratesX was banned for saying the very things he repeats in the above post. Patting him on the head and saying "apology accepted" isn't doing him any favours.
AndrewM said:I'm pretty stunned by these criticisms...
AndrewM said:Minus, Dead, Badjedidude:
I don't want this thread to become about me. All I'll say is that the tone of my response to SocratesX may have been harsh but it was constructive. My tone has nothing to do with "tough love" - it was a reaction to what SocratesX was saying. I think it's great that he can come back after being banned (a lot of people wouldn't) to seek out alternative opinions. That's why I gave him mine, as honestly as I could, and on the basis of a life experience which isn't all that different to his. I strongly disagree with his attitude towards minorities - sorry about that. It's not something I'm inclined to "chill out" about. But I didn't put him down personally. I told him to get real about the offensive nature of his comments, and not to pretend otherwise. How else is going to see that the things he says cross the line? Anyway, if I'm mistaken about this I think it's great that the people here are prepared to stand up for him. He knows this is a place where he'll be taken seriously.
For me personally, however, I would prefer it if I wasn't called an ******* just for expressing my opinion.
Minus said:I will drop out here so this thread can get back on track.
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