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The biggest problem is the demand for the service, which is squarely on the shoulders of men. Logically this causes the demeaning and objectifying of women. I'm sure the lonely guys paying for the service could handle their natural urges another way, #1 way is to have some discipline and realize you're an intelligent human being with the ability to have some restraint. You don't need to use someone for their body and in the process contribute to a major societal problem.

That said, I'm not directing this specifically toward the OP or any other individual, just trying to make a broader point about the source of the problem, and how I feel restraint for yourself, and respect for the other gender, is the way to go
 
Batman55 said:
The biggest problem is the demand for the service, which is squarely on the shoulders of men. Logically this causes the demeaning and objectifying of women.

You have your own opinion. Mine is that the only thing demeaning about it is people like you deciding that it's wrong and demeaning to women.

http://freakonomics.com/2010/02/10/...club-allie-the-escort-answers-your-questions/
Sounds a lot more empowering than demeaning to me.

Batman55 said:
I'm sure the lonely guys paying for the service could handle their natural urges another way, #1 way is to have some discipline and realize you're an intelligent human being with the ability to have some restraint.

Get off your high horse. You personally think paying for sex is wrong so you don't do it. Good for you.

Batman55 said:
You don't need to use someone for their body and in the process contribute to a major societal problem.

This isn't a major societal problem. There are many, far worse things that we need to be worrying about than whether a woman should be allowed to take money for sex.

In any instance where it really is a problem, I'm willing to bet either extreme poverty or a lack of equal opportunities for women are the real underlying issues, not guys wanting to have sex.

Batman55 said:
That said, I'm not directing this specifically toward the OP or any other individual, just trying to make a broader point about the source of the problem, and how I feel restraint for yourself, and respect for the other gender, is the way to go

Cool.
 
kamya said:
You have your own opinion. Mine is that the only thing demeaning about it is people like you deciding that it's wrong and demeaning to women.

Oh, right, so enduring intercourse with men they aren't attracted to several times day isn't demeaning.
 
ardour said:
kamya said:
You have your own opinion. Mine is that the only thing demeaning about it is people like you deciding that it's wrong and demeaning to women.

Oh, right, so enduring intercourse with men they aren't attracted to several times day isn't demeaning.

I don't think prostitution can have set labels, it's really case by case discussion! However, there are cases where women feel like their choice has been taken away from them but there are women out there that enjoy their job and feel it's empowering rather than demeaning.
Also, I don't like the fact you think prostitutes just need to be solely attracted to a guy for prostitution not to feel demeaning, if someone is forced into that lifestyle it doesn't matter what the 'john' looks like it will be degrading!
 
Littlesecret said:
I don't think prostitution can have set labels, it's really case by case discussion! However, there are cases where women feel like their choice has been taken away from them but there are women out there that enjoy their job and feel it's empowering rather than demeaning.
Also, I don't like the fact you think prostitutes just need to be solely attracted to a guy for prostitution not to feel demeaning, if someone is forced into that lifestyle it doesn't matter what the 'john' looks like it will be degrading!


'Empowerment' is probably a way of convincing themselves that it isn't so bad. I agree it's going to be demeaning no matter what the guy(s) looks like.
 
ardour said:
Littlesecret said:
I don't think prostitution can have set labels, it's really case by case discussion! However, there are cases where women feel like their choice has been taken away from them but there are women out there that enjoy their job and feel it's empowering rather than demeaning.
Also, I don't like the fact you think prostitutes just need to be solely attracted to a guy for prostitution not to feel demeaning, if someone is forced into that lifestyle it doesn't matter what the 'john' looks like it will be degrading!


'Empowerment' is probably a way of convincing themselves that it isn't so bad. I agree it's going to be demeaning no matter what the guy(s) looks like.

:/ That's your opinion Ardour but I completely disagree, like I said before it's case by case but if a man or woman choose that occupation and enjoy it and at any point can decide to quit and do something else with their life, why on earth would they need to convince themselves it's empowering?
I can see why some prostitutes feel that way, if we are talking about consensual prostitution, the prostitute has the power not the person they are having sex with.
It's just like any job, I've never tried to convince myself I like a job that I hate because I've always had the opportunity to leave.
 
ardour said:
kamya said:
You have your own opinion. Mine is that the only thing demeaning about it is people like you deciding that it's wrong and demeaning to women.

Oh, right, so enduring intercourse with men they aren't attracted to several times day isn't demeaning.

Okay, so wait. Is it okay for women who do NOT get paid to have sex with multiple men in a short time period? Do you just label them sluts or whores, but deem getting PAID as demeaning and wrong?

Just asking for your opinion about people who are NOT paid, not trying to debate anything, so I'll ask that no one attack me.
 
TheRealCallie said:
Okay, so wait. Is it okay for women who do NOT get paid to have sex with multiple men in a short time period? Do you just label them sluts or whores, but deem getting PAID as demeaning and wrong?

Obviously prostitutes engage in sex with men on a day-to-day basis because that's how they make a living. It's their income so they probably can't afford to be picky about clients based on looks or other non-monetary factors. It's not really valid to compare that to someone who has multiple partners because they feel like it (still somewhat degrading IMO)
 
Unless you ARE or HAVE been a prostitute, I think everyone posting about how prostitutes do or do not feel needs to shut up and this thread should get back on track.
 
^^^
Right on.

I knew a girl who sold her services for a few years. (no, I never engaged a transaction with her).
She only told me about it after we became friends, because I told her I never judge people, and she in turn trusted me.
She took good care of herself, and eventually stopped once she made enough money to enroll in a university.
My recent ex GF had more male partners (free rolls in the hay) than she ever did!
 
EveWasFramed said:
Unless you ARE or HAVE been a prostitute, I think everyone posting about how prostitutes do or do not feel needs to shut up and this thread should get back on track.

That's pretty rude, people will always have an opinion on a subject that is still seen as a taboo. You don't need to be something to speculate how one may feel!
 
Littlesecret said:
EveWasFramed said:
Unless you ARE or HAVE been a prostitute, I think everyone posting about how prostitutes do or do not feel needs to shut up and this thread should get back on track.

That's pretty rude, people will always have an opinion on a subject that is still seen as a taboo. You don't need to be something to speculate how one may feel!

It's not rude and my comment was in reference to the arguing about what prostitutes do or do not think. Again, it's the arguing over it and derailing of the thread.
 
EveWasFramed said:
Littlesecret said:
EveWasFramed said:
Unless you ARE or HAVE been a prostitute, I think everyone posting about how prostitutes do or do not feel needs to shut up and this thread should get back on track.

That's pretty rude, people will always have an opinion on a subject that is still seen as a taboo. You don't need to be something to speculate how one may feel!

It's not rude and my comment was in reference to the arguing about what prostitutes do or do not think. Again, it's the arguing over it and derailing of the thread.

I'm in agreement the thread was slightly derailed and I apologise to OP for my part in it. However, no one needs to be told to 'shut up', that's the part I found rude. Also it seemed more of a discussion than an argument about something that was still very much on topic.
 
EveWasFramed said:
It's not rude and my comment was in reference to the arguing about what prostitutes do or do not think. Again, it's the arguing over it and derailing of the thread.

Regardless of the REASON for doing so, as a moderator that was very unprofessional. As a moderator it is not your job to determine what people do or do not say about something like prostitution, and while it IS your job to keep something on topic, with the progression of the conversation, these peoples' opinions ARE on topic. When I was a moderator on another forum, one of the other mods pulled this same honeysuckle, and I got on their case about it too. They ended up realizing their error and resigned as a moderator.

Regardless of what YOU think, it was rude, uncalled for, unprofessional...doesn't matter what your opinion on it is, just everyone else's. Just thought you should know that.

Not to say you don't have a point, because you do. Thing is, that doesn't matter either, because you're a moderator. Be a little more professional.

I'm interested to see if I get banned for having an opinion.
 
I want to say I had a conversation with her about this the last time and I asked if it wasn't difficult to have sex with men you feel nothing for. She said: "Not at all, I enjoy sleeping with nice men". These were her exacts words.
However I still did not have sex with her and we only talked the entire hour, at the end she got bored a little, from speaking to me or by not having sex I'm not sure.
 
Hawx79, there are many, many women who love to have sex without pretense of feeling.
Some of them decide to profit financially from it.
They do not want a committed relationship, because they know the male would not accept or be able to handle their preference.
 
*Edited*
Not leaving that all out there for nothing...
Good luck.
 
Hawx79 said:
I want to say I had a conversation with her about this the last time and I asked if it wasn't difficult to have sex with men you feel nothing for. She said: "Not at all, I enjoy sleeping with nice men". These were her exacts words.
However I still did not have sex with her and we only talked the entire hour, at the end she got bored a little, from speaking to me or by not having sex I'm not sure.

Most working girls I have known love their work. They love the physical side of it and meeting their clients.
 
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