I feel kinda mean typing this

[RebeccaSarah33]

ok, so I just went browsing the internet and decided to check out other forums, I wont name which one but I will say its a 'Christian' based one that I clicked on. I grew up attending Christian school and church occasionally. I believe in God. What I don't understand is... why are 'most' of the girls that claim to be Christian so much more......(how do i say this tactfully).... lol .........(thinking)...... I've found them to be more "desperate" in thier attempts at getting male attention. I think thats the best way I could have worded that.

I noticed it all throughout school, I noticed it in youthgroups growing up, I notice it in church services that the ones that claim the most about themself wear the least amount of clothing and act the wildest and most sexually playful in public. I was innocently browsing this other site and they had a button to click that said 'random member profile' so I clicked it.... and I get...... boobs. like what the heck? am I looking at porn? seriously..... I haven't seen in other profiles in normal chat circumstances as much skin as I see in church services or on Christian websites. Its really sad. it offends me more than seeing regular boobs because they are suposively upholding some image thats supposed to be like.... holy and .... modest..... and they wear the most low cut short skirts they can find like its a contest and no one ever tells them its inappropriate for a church service to wear a mini skirt with your thong chilin in the back because they don't want to offend anyone.

Its not all church women that are like this, there are ones that dress modestly with good taste and are still fashionable and look beautiful. (theres ones with really old fashioned style too/not anything i'd want to wear) I'm just a little tired of the unmodest dressing and extreme desperation that I find at these church functions. It makes me not want to attend. I haven't attended in months and haven't had the desire to. Last time I was surrounded by a group of "Christian" people was at a party held at my sisters house. All of these people were regular attenders at the church they had been attending for years and years, no one was a newcomer to the church. I felt more judged, more ridiculed, and more uneasy and self concious at this gathering than I do when I'm around a buncha average everyday people. It was as if it was a big contest to see who can get the most attention. Women were walking around with tops so low that you could see thier bras and one of them had a crusifix necklace and Jesus got stuck in her cleavage, like she was pulling him out, seriously lol. It makes me sad like, I don't think Jesus should get stuck in cleavage LOL.

The people at this party were so destructive of the house and so loud and obnoxious that neighbors came over to politely ask if we could be more quiet, of course that was a big joke to them, how rude! Also they got into a food fight pretty much wrecking the floors and carpeting for my sister to have to clean up later not to mention wasting the food she bought. It was such a mess and they didn't even help or offer to help clean it up. I've been to other parties before lotsa times and I've never seen such wild odd behaviors as those parties, these people just seem so much more rude and judgemental.

So anyway, this 'random member profile' that came up, I couldn't even see what she actually looked like. It was her nose down into her boobs with an extreme low cut top with her bra hanging out of it. like wtf. Theres a place for boobs to hang out, that shouldn't be one of those places in my opinion. LOL why is it easier and more fun to hang out with regular people than it is with 'most' (not all) religious people? I thought that people who knew Jesus's love are supposed to be more loving and more forgiving and more accepting and stuff like that? Why is it always the opposite? From my lifetime of experiences it has always been the opposite. After 10 years of attending Christian school I decided to give public school a try because I was having such a hard time with the Christian school kids bullying me, I was expecting public school to be worse but at least it'd be a new set of kids and maybe I could hide.

I was so shocked to find out that public school kids have better things to do then to find and single out someone for being painfully shy and slightly fat. If you leave them alone, they leave you alone. It was so cool. I was so shocked that I could actually go to school and not live in worry of getting cornered and beat up or spit on by lovely Christian school kids. lol it just pisses me off. I just don't understand the need for the big competition here. If you want to let your boobs hang out, let your boobs hang out but don't get Jesus stuck in your cleavage.

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[Lonesome Crow]

hahahaaaaaa....
The so call christain or good girls...won't talk to me during school hours.
They just make subtle body talks with me..Peer pressure or worried about what thier family/friends might think...
They have a reputation to live up to...I'm smart enough to know to not dishonor them.....
But they would sit on my lap during a kegger parties, go skinney dipping with me though and let me feel thier boobs

I was MADE TO ATTEND church too when I was a kid.
I think it messed me up.lol
Later on in life I had to have some sit down and work with me...to actaully go over the bibble and retranslate it for me.
The way I was percieving or the way it was presented to it before was unhealthy for me.
There's a lot of good teachings in the bibble or chirstainity.

There's knowlege...and then there's applications.

Sometimes when a person gets retricted or put into a box...As soon as they leave home, they really, really let lose.
Or if their still live at home..it can a sign of rebelion.

I used to go out and party all the time from Friday night til satureday night...then drag my ass into church on sunday morning
with a hung over.lol

Then again...if had ever read the bibble...there's a lot of sexaul stuff in there.

Everybody gets horney at one time or the other.

The first time I kissed a girl was at summer camp...CHURCH summer camp.lol

My HS GF father was a preacher. Andrea was a very loving, caring non judgmental person. She was also very beautiful and sexy.
I think her's was a size B.

My father was the dean of the church we attended.

Most of the women I've met or had relationships with are proclaim Christain..Most are very sexual and good in bed.

So what's up with you getting hung up on boobs?
What's up with the guilt and shame?

 

[Phaedron]

I think it's because many so called church people are not really interested in spirituality or idealism. On the contrary the cross seems to mean to these people that they can do whatever they want and will be forgiven. This has always been the case. The church has always been ripe for corruption. There are many Catholics who sin all week and confess it on sunday. The headset we are all sinners regardless of what we do leads to a belief to sinning is inevitable so why bother. Their perception of Christ is that God had to stop being demanding and simply accept we are sinners and forgive us anyway. This is further portrayed in crosses which show a Christ figure on them. They are "keeping him ON the cross."

What they don't get is the personal relationship with Christ. Forgiveness is real, but apology and forgiveness is pointless if you don't change your ways. That attitude won't work forever with your relationships with real people either. Hypocrisy runs deep in this religion. In many ways it is the religion for the simple, compared to others that is. I'm just saying that other Religions are more complicated and require more from those who follow them. It has more "blind sheep" then any other. I went to church when I was kid too, mostly all we did was go to mcdonalds and play sports.

The Church is vastly confusing with hundreds of different denominations and interpretations of the Bible. This division is deeply troubling to me as there is only one heaven and only one body of Christ. You'd think a religion that puts so much emphasis on scriptural authority would have to resolve it's differences, but instead there is no progress to be had. Instead it's more like different ways to be closeminded and seperate. According to Jesus you must be as a child to see the kingdom of heaven. Well children are not set in their ways, they do not know good from evil, they do not know the bigotries of adulthood.

"Unless ye be wiser then pharisees and religious leaders, ye cannot enter the kingdom of heaven," Christ.
"I like your Christ, but I despise your christians. Your christians are so unlike your christ," -Buddha.
So I am of the mind the personal walk with Christ is spiritual, but the church is or was just a means of political control.

Here is the best site I ever found about what it means to be a true christian: http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/index.html

If you're trying to find a true christian, test them. Find someone who knows scripture like the back of their hand. Who knows, maybe it's the devils work that he likes to profane that which is holy as much as possible.

 

[cheaptrickfan]

If you're trying to find a true christian, test them. Find someone who knows scripture like the back of their hand.

I've known people who can spout off scripture and verse like there's no tomorrow but who still fail to live it. Knowledge of the scripture itself is meaningless.

I've met Buddhists who live a more righteous life than many self-proclaimed Christians, yet they had little knowledge of Scripture.

 

[Phaedron]

yeah this is true too, I'm just saying that chances are if they know nothing then they haven't given it any thought. Anyone who is serious about their spiritual journey will at least have something they can say about it that denotes they have done any soul searching at all.

 

[Estreen]

What is a bibble? Or Chirstainity? Is it the stain of Christ, or Chris' stain? *ponders*

But to the more serious question and pertinent question: was she really a size B? I would think their bosoms would be far bigger from all the sinful thoughts that get stored up in them; isn't that how it works?

 

[cheaptrickfan]

yeah this is true too, I'm just saying that chances are if they know nothing then they haven't given it any thought. Anyone who is serious about their spiritual journey will at least have something they can say about it that denotes they have done any soul searching at all.

Well, if they know nothing about Christian scripture, then perhaps they are not serious about pursuing that path to spirituality, but it doesn't mean that they are not spiritual.

Yeah, yeah I know it's splitting hairs.

 

[oarivan]

What is a bibble? Or Chirstainity? Is it the stain of Christ, or Chris' stain? *ponders*

But to the more serious question and pertinent question: was she really a size B? I would think their bosoms would be far bigger from all the sinful thoughts that get stored up in them; isn't that how it works?

Funny how the chirstain womenfolk have large bewbbles. How stacked are you?

I see nothing wrong with showing skin, but then I'm male.

 

[Ekstra]

I think religion just predisposes people to intolerance. I think the reason your experience with private school was better is because in that diverse environment, differences are tolerated more (not that public school is a haven at all). I don't think you should try and judge others through your religious beliefs because that stimulates intolerance. You can only judge individuals buy your knowledge of them and their circumstances.

 

[PoWer2tHePeOpLE]

lol jesus surfing cleavage..

i'm glad you found a school that didn't have bastards bullying you.. bastards..

 

[Phaedron]

Well, if they know nothing about Christian scripture, then perhaps they are not serious about pursuing that path to spirituality, but it doesn't mean that they are not spiritual.

Yeah, yeah I know it's splitting hairs.

IMO, You tend to make unnecessary points and incur argument or misconceptions because of it. I mean no offense by this, It's just a pattern I've noticed that usually people take offense to as they think you are attacking them, but really you are just being overly technical and are probably a virgo.

If they have experience with other spirituality then they will have something to say about their journey with IT. Assuming it enters the conversation and they aren't hiding it. (for the sake of technicalities) The point of my statement is nevertheless unchanged.

 

[cheaptrickfan]

IMO, You tend to make unnecessary points and incur argument or misconceptions because of it. I mean no offense by this, It's just a pattern I've noticed that usually people take offense to as they think you are attacking them, but really you are just being overly technical and are probably a virgo.

Yeah, I'm a Virgo.

 

[PoWer2tHePeOpLE]

lol

 

[Lonesome Crow]

lol jesus surfing cleavage..

lmao

Jesus..died for all your sins already....
Jesus also said men cannot live on bread alone

mOOr cleavage...mOOr cleavage..mOOr cleavage

Sinful thought...I have sinful thoughts...lmAO
mmmm...what kind of mind control guilt trip bullshit is this?

What would Jesus do??? I don't fucken know..I'm not Jesus....
I squeeze and love the clevage..that's what I would do.

The scripture was written by a bounch of men lock up in a room or cave..(sounds like prison) without women around.
mmmm perhasp they felt awkward walking around with a fucken bonner around other men. Worried if other monks might think they're gay?
Thinking about cleavage would ultimately arouse a bonner after years of isolations from women?

 

[PoWer2tHePeOpLE]

lol

sure why not.. bring it.

careful LC someone might get the impression you like boobays..hehe

 

[Phaedron]

huh, I thought religion was about drugs, not sex. Or maybe it was sex, drugs, and Rock & Roll. lol

http://www.egodeath.com/

The ego death theory holds that the essence and origin of religion is the use of visionary plants to routinely trigger the intense mystic altered state, producing loose cognitive-association binding, which then produces an experience of being controlled by frozen block-universe determinism with a single, pre-existing, ever-existing future.

Experiencing this model of control and time initially destabilizes self-control power, and amounts to the death of the self that was conceived of as an autonomous control-agent. Self-control stability is restored upon transforming one's mental model to take into account the dependence of personal control on a hidden, separate thought-source, such as Necessity or a divine level that transcends Necessity.

Myth describes this mystic-state experiential insight and transformation. Religious initiation teaches and causes this transformation of the self considered as a control-agent, through a series of visionary-plant sessions, interspersed with study of perennial philosophy. Most modern-era religion has been a distortion of this standard initiation system, reducing these concepts to a weak interpretation that is based in the ordinary state of consciousness. The ego death theory is, specifically, the Cybernetic Theory of Ego Transcendence, and it incorporates the entheogen theory of religion.

The "Christianity" of today, evangelicalism, is a recent invention, an uninspired man-made abomination fabricated in the ordinary state of consciousness without the mind-transforming Holy Spirit. Evangelical Christianity is set against the New Testament version of Christianity. The modern massive misinterpretation of the New Testament forms a version of Christianity that is thoroughly bunk and inauthentic, that contradicts the New Testament as the book that is supposedly definitive of Christianity, and must end.

 

[Lonesome Crow]

Adam was lonely as fresia...He had to give up something to get something.
God created Eve with a bootilious ass and a nice set of cleavage.
becuase god loves adam and gave him want he wanted.
GOD invented tits and ass....it's all good.
They lived in paradize butt as naked without guilt and shame.
They had no concept or knowlege of guilt, shame, sins or fears.

Then oneday..Eve ate the apple of knowelge. Hence people think too god **** much

Errr..Juses did mention "follow your heart"..somewhere alone the line he was giving people hints
to stop thinking so god **** much.

Adam and Eve was LIVING IN THE MOMENT while in the garden of eden...they never thought about it.
Thinking takes time. Time was invented by thinking.

Surely if god create man as an image of god and god did invented tists and ass.
God loves tits and ass too
Why would any man be ashame of liking tits and ass??? It dosn't make any sense.
Why wound any woman be ashame of her body ? God created her body. Screw guilt...

 

[Phaedron]

True, and on that note I'd like to emphasize that God created one pair of tits and ass for Adam and not a whole harem of them alternating or otherwise. I'd like to know where king Solomon gets off having 300 wives.

 

[RebeccaSarah33]

lol I'm not offended by boobies. I like mine. I'm just wondering why "Christian" women feel the need to go all out during church functions. I'm saying... if I go to a regular party, and then go a a similiar party but with church people, its like... the church people are more wild then the regular people, this is the part that puzzles me because they claim so much goodness. I have no issue with sexuality/sex/cleavage, but I do think its a little innapropriate to show sooooo much skin while listening to a sermon or some other church function its like they do it on purpose to try to be distracting to those who are trying to learn or something, or they are just screaming for bad attention, its like a desperate attempt because they know they wont get scolded because people don't want to offend but they want alot of negative attention like everyone looking at them in shock.

lol i just think its dumb. If you want to let your boobs hang out, let them hang out, thats fine but I'm just saying.... church should be a place that you dress nicely and modest. Like, these women have no issue dressing nice for the office, but when sunday comes around its like a contest and they arent there to pay attention or learn anything, just there to sit and tug/adjust thier clothes because they are falling out of them, I guess it only gets on my nerves because they make an extra effort on sunday morning... all the rest of the week they wear normal clothing its just kinda wtf. If they dressed like that all the time it'd be normal and I wouldn't think anything of it, its just the extra effort to be immodest because its church... like the exact opposite of what they go to learn.

 

[Phaedron]

this is the part that puzzles me because they claim so much goodness.

Exactly.

The fruits of the knowledge of good and evil are at work here. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The goodness they think about themselves creates an imbalance that leads to being more wild.

A person who is just themself, not trying to be overly good or evil, will do as they please and harm none. A person who tries to be overly good or thinks of themself as overly good, will inevitably have to deal with equal amounts of evil.

And yeah it is kind of ridiculous to show off so much. It's like the sex ed / sensitivity teacher who has ridiculously huge boobs for someone who has to talk about that kind of stuff.