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MrPUA said:
Personally, after I make the girl laugh or some honeysuckle, I'll say, "Haha, you're really ******* sexy" in a cocky comical way, and honestly, to transistion the vibe from "we just met" to something more feels natural.

Make absolutely certain you know the girl's personality first. Because this would get you automatically dismissed if you said it to me.
 
nerdygirl said:
MrPUA said:
Personally, after I make the girl laugh or some honeysuckle, I'll say, "Haha, you're really ******* sexy" in a cocky comical way, and honestly, to transistion the vibe from "we just met" to something more feels natural.

Make absolutely certain you know the girl's personality first. Because this would get you automatically dismissed if you said it to me.

I don't know you so, I'm not going to assume much about you BUT. With you having said that, it's fair to say, you're not a clubbing chick, correct? I say that honeysuckle in clubs, not on the street. I'm much more formal on the street.
 
MrPUA said:
Personally, after I make the girl laugh or some honeysuckle, I'll say, "Haha, you're really ******* sexy" in a cocky comical way, and honestly, to transistion the vibe from "we just met" to something more feels natural.

That's pretty direct and obvious, IMHO. The kind of line that bleach-blond dumb hunks use.

If you really want a bar girl's attention, you have to insult her subtly. Like this:

When walking past the target woman, give a small look of surprise, like you either recognize her or find something surprising about her. When she asks what you're looking at, say something like, "Ohh, nothing. I just wouldn't have expected a girl like you to be here." But don't say it in a mean way. Just say it as if you were surprised a little bit.

For the rest of the night she'll be wondering what you meant by that. She might even search you out to ask you.

That, sir, is classssss.
 
nerdygirl said:
If the bungee jump goes badly, you lose your life. If you give a girl a kiss on the hand and she isn't interested, what will you lose? Another girl to add to the list of "like a sister" type people? Is that really a valid concern?

I admit that the consequences of a bungee jump accident are rather more fatal :D

However, here are a few points which will hopefully make my position clearer:

1. I would much prefer to get to know a girl really well as a friend before attempting to take things to the next level. I think this increases the chances of starting a steady, long-term relationship, because you have a strong friendship to base it on (but I may be wrong).

2. While I enjoy chatting and socialising with many people, it's extremely rare that I will form a strong friendship with a new girl, so each female friend I have is very special to me.

3. Once you've revealed your romantic feelings to a female friend, there's no going back, and it can completely and permanently alter the dynamics of the friendship. If your romantic feelings are unrequited, then the friendship can suddenly become awkward, and may even start to decay.

So taking these three points together, you can see why I'm often scared to make my romantic feelings known. And on the few occasions when I've found the courage to do it, it's rarely been in a flirty way (such as an intimate kiss on a girl's hand). It's much easier (although still very scary) for me to just state my feelings in a very plain way, eg: "I really enjoy and appreciate our friendship, but I was wondering whether we could maybe be more than just friends?" But I've very rarely done this, because of points 2 and 3 above.

Hmm... feel free to tell me rather bluntly that I should just stop making excuses! :D
 
Badjedidude said:
MrPUA said:
Personally, after I make the girl laugh or some honeysuckle, I'll say, "Haha, you're really ******* sexy" in a cocky comical way, and honestly, to transistion the vibe from "we just met" to something more feels natural.

That's pretty direct and obvious, IMHO. The kind of line that bleach-blond dumb hunks use.

If you really want a bar girl's attention, you have to insult her subtly. Like this:

When walking past the target woman, give a small look of surprise, like you either recognize her or find something surprising about her. When she asks what you're looking at, say something like, "Ohh, nothing. I just wouldn't have expected a girl like you to be here." But don't say it in a mean way. Just say it as if you were surprised a little bit.

For the rest of the night she'll be wondering what you meant by that. She might even search you out to ask you.

That, sir, is classssss.

That's the beauty of telling a girl she's sexy as fresia though. You are already assuming you're valuable as fresia and that you are a winner, so by giving her that much value, she feels like you're fun, daring and confident and that by investing her time in you, she's getting a lot out of it compared to the other guys in the bar. Being direct works beautifully! And, I've used it on super intelligent girls too, but you gotta keep in mind I do build SOME rapport in her before I say something like that, I gotta know she's FUN beforehand, not some bland dull girl who's gonna be bleh to talk to. Of course, you can warm up girls who are dull, but I'm not into the girls who aren't going to be receptive to my high energy. I want to have funnnn!
 
MrPUA said:
And, I've used it on super intelligent girls too, but you gotta keep in mind I do build SOME rapport in her before I say something like that, I gotta know she's FUN beforehand, not some bland dull girl who's gonna be bleh to talk to. Of course, you can warm up girls who are dull, but I'm not into the girls who aren't going to be receptive to my high energy. I want to have funnnn!

Something makes me question the "super intelligence" of girls who would fall for that.

MrPUA said:
You are already assuming you're valuable as fresia and that you are a winner, so by giving her that much value, she feels like you're fun, daring and confident and that by investing her time in you, she's getting a lot out of it compared to the other guys in the bar.

No, you're projecting yourself as the most painfully obvious guy in the room. Women like a mystery, not an open book. There's nothing for a woman to wonder/ponder about when you just tell her right out that you want to fresia her (and that is what you're saying).

The key to getting a woman is to implant that single comment that will drive her nuts as she tries to figure it out. I guarantee that she will search you out once she's had enough time to run it through her mind.

The method you describe and hold to is sort of like just "going for broke," as quickly as possible. I guess I take a more patient approach. But with my way, you still get the girl, AND you don't look like a bonehead who's only interested in one thing.

And I can assure you that nearly every other guy in the bar is doing the exact same thing that you are. The method you've described isn't exactly original or creative.
 
MrPUA said:
Being direct works beautifully! And, I've used it on super intelligent girls too, but you gotta keep in mind I do build SOME rapport in her before I say something like that, I gotta know she's FUN beforehand, not some bland dull girl who's gonna be bleh to talk to. Of course, you can warm up girls who are dull, but I'm not into the girls who aren't going to be receptive to my high energy. I want to have funnnn!

Always take advice from a guy who says smart girls are bleh to talk to and the ones who are dumber than rocks are funnnn.
 
Jedi, I'm not here to argue sir, but what I'm doing has yielded me alooooot of results, see it took me a while to realize it but guys ARENT doing this honeysuckle. Most of them sit around and watch women pass by, they talk honeysuckle about the women because they won't give them a chance, I show them I have balls and am a dominat male, I get results. Also, to be honest I used to follow a model similar to yours but I felt it had far too much complication to it, what I'm doing is going to the meat of what you're doing. My model works in this fashion, assume rapport, make her laugh, play with her, have fun, physically escalate and move from there to wherever I want. Your model, from what I'm seeing, your value stems from your mysterious side, if that works to for you, keep kicking ass man, but for me, my value stems directly from being me. I like that best, I'm straight up and I don't hide my desire. I'm a horny individual, I take on women in a confidet fashion and don't hide that I want to be with them.
 
I prefer to traffic them in illegally from Romania.

Just sayin'. I don't have to flirt at them, and when the honeymoon is over or the neighbors start to catch on, the textile factory downtown always needs fresh laborers.
 
I prefer their cooking. And if you have the right connections, you can get ones that give seriously incredible foot rubs. And getting back to the textile factory, they actually pay you for the Romanian women due to their knowledge of the ancient weaving techniques bestowed upon them by their ancestor spirits. Nobody else can do what they can in freezing, low light, underpaid conditions with a gigantic supply of artificial fiber that has to be turned in to bolts of cloth to fuel the capitalist hate machine.

That gypsy stuff doesn't really apply anymore, it's pretty much been scared out of them by centuries of hate and genocide. The ones that -are- still gypsies don't get caught to get exported. Between that and their illegal immigrant status and limited knowledge of English, you really don't have to worry about stealing. For an extra fee, they can be brainwashed and have their minds wiped before being shipped.

That and I just have a thing for Romanians. Freakin' gorgeous.


God ****, I love America. Gobless.
 
^^^Gotta agree.

I'd traffic Eastern European women over Chinese women any 'ol day.

But to be honest, Indian/Thai women are going down in price and age quite rapidly these days. Something to keep in mind at the bargaining table, boys.
 
VanillaCreme said:
Well, in all honesty, it's not you. Really. It's not. It's them. It's just what they want, and you're not what they're looking for either. If someone doesn't like me, I'd rather them just tell me than to beat around the bush. At least none of these girls are playing with you. It's all about preference. You even said yourself what you look for and go after. Perhaps you just aren't what they're looking for. Don't take it so personally, and don't be harsh on yourself about it.

Though it is true that even the biggest PUA can't get every woman, the truth of the matter is that it's probably a large part you. Get jacked, then get a cool-looking car (like a pickup truck, or a black car that you can pimp out), get some stylish clothes, take up macho activities like gun-shooting and martial arts, get regular haircuts, work non-stop so you always have cash on your, and develop an alpha lifestyle. That should fix your problem.

Next thing is once you have all that honeysuckle, you will feel confident and worthy and honeysuckle. My problem is I can imagine Zero Women finding me attractive. But with you, you will have the confidence to say and do whatever you feel like and that will gain you respect from other people. Right now one of my issues is I always feel like I have to tell others what they want to hear.

I'm sorry but with all due respect to VanillaCreme, all she's going to do is perpetuate your loneliness. I know a kid who decided he wouldn't listen to the PUAs and continue to "be a nice guy/good boy" and now he's a suicidal 27-year-old manchild who lives with Mom and Dad and sees prostitutes all the time, cries everyday, and has graduate-level education but it's in a useless field so he cannot get a job.
 
SocratesX said:
VanillaCreme said:
Well, in all honesty, it's not you. Really. It's not. It's them. It's just what they want, and you're not what they're looking for either. If someone doesn't like me, I'd rather them just tell me than to beat around the bush. At least none of these girls are playing with you. It's all about preference. You even said yourself what you look for and go after. Perhaps you just aren't what they're looking for. Don't take it so personally, and don't be harsh on yourself about it.

Though it is true that even the biggest PUA can't get every woman, the truth of the matter is that it's probably a large part you. Get jacked, then get a cool-looking car (like a pickup truck, or a black car that you can pimp out), get some stylish clothes, take up macho activities like gun-shooting and martial arts, get regular haircuts, work non-stop so you always have cash on your, and develop an alpha lifestyle. That should fix your problem.

Next thing is once you have all that honeysuckle, you will feel confident and worthy and honeysuckle. My problem is I can imagine Zero Women finding me attractive. But with you, you will have the confidence to say and do whatever you feel like and that will gain you respect from other people. Right now one of my issues is I always feel like I have to tell others what they want to hear.

I'm sorry but with all due respect to VanillaCreme, all she's going to do is perpetuate your loneliness. I know a kid who decided he wouldn't listen to the PUAs and continue to "be a nice guy/good boy" and now he's a suicidal 27-year-old manchild who lives with Mom and Dad and sees prostitutes all the time, cries everyday, and has graduate-level education but it's in a useless field so he cannot get a job.

Socrates the question is what kind of women will doing those things attract? You do have it right that you have to work on yourself so you have something of value to offer to the other party because relationships are of a give and take dynamic.

Btw that story about the guy with the graduate degree who looks for prostitutes is very sad. :(

Why doesnt he just chain-date until he finds someone? Why doesnt he just keep applying until he finds a job? Perserverence wins out in the end, not hanging one's head in defeat.
 

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