Porn is REALLY bad for you

[johnny196775Again]

I thought porn was a good thing.

 

[SophiaGrace]

I happen to be a Scientist.

Wait what? I thought you didn't have a job?

 

[Sci-Fi]

I happen to be a Scientist. So f*** off. I take it if you get a cancer you will not be wanting the treatment demonstrated effective by our scientific method?

Censoring the letters doesn't mean you get away with telling people to f-off, don't do it again. Treat people with the same respect they have given you even if they don't agree.

 

[kamya]

Watched/read/written porn and erotica for around a decade and still don't detach sex from emotional intimacy. Be wary of anyone with an agenda; they'll make an addiction out to be everyday use. If they can scare you using facts that at least look real or like they fit the situation, you're more likely to listen, aren't you?

Hi Tealeafe,

It's science, and everything on there matched my own experience. And I now know I have a problem.

But it does not say that affects all people. I am also an alcoholic, some people can drink all their lives and not have a problem.

Only a fool believes that all science is created equal, or uses "it's science" to explain their science. Among actual scientists, that's fondly known as bullshit.

On another note, the book clearly says addiction so take your fearmongering elsewhere.

I happen to be a Scientist. So f*** off. I take it if you get a cancer you will not be wanting the treatment demonstrated effective by our scientific method?

You really think someone trying to sell his book and land speaking gigs isn't going to add a little bullshit to his "science"? A little googling and it seems like this guy isn't too credible, and there seems to be a few newer studies coming out that go against his ideas.

 

[Alma lost her spoon]

I think I'll stick with the porn thanks all the same.

 

[TheSkaFish]

i agree, porn is a problem. i have moral issues with it. it gives off an aura of darkness, negativity, coldness, decay. a lot of people involved in it seem very messed up in the head, from confused lost souls who get in over their heads chasing money, fame, or rebellion to creepy, manipulative predators using and discarding people with no regard for their physical or mental health, in the name of their own perversions and almighty cash. but aside from the physical and mental problems it causes and without even considering it as a moral issue, i don't like how it can be used as a crutch to avoid solving problems that one might really want to solve, like finding love. it presents an easy way out which doesn't really fix the trouble, which only causes the bad feelings to continue. porn can take the edge off of the sadness, frustration, and unfulfilled desires for sex, intimacy, a lover. but just like getting drunk or high to numb pain, all of your problems are still there when you come down again.

 

[Alma lost her spoon]

^^I guess it might depend on what kind of porn you watch, & why perhaps.

 

[Fest]

I see it the same as anything else in life, be responsible with it and know yourself. Hard to go wrong from that starting point.

 

[Batman55]

Watched/read/written porn and erotica for around a decade and still don't detach sex from emotional intimacy. Be wary of anyone with an agenda; they'll make an addiction out to be everyday use. If they can scare you using facts that at least look real or like they fit the situation, you're more likely to listen, aren't you?

Aye, outside of the gender politics debate about porn which I won't get into, this is my take on it. Be wary of black and white views on anything.

As I'm sure has been said, the kind of logic these folks use, can be applied to almost anything that yields a quick reward with little effort. Basically anything that stimulates/arouses could theoretically do the same thing.. "brain shrinkage/social anxiety/low self esteem" etc. I would think there's a LOT of activities that would fit the bill there.

 

[Case]

I see it the same as anything else in life, be responsible with it and know yourself. Hard to go wrong from that starting point.

^^^This. When the indulgent behavior makes one lose control, that's when it's time to think about rehabilitation. But if you don't over-indulge, and you aren't hurting anybody, I don't see the problem.

 

[ladyforsaken]

I see it the same as anything else in life, be responsible with it and know yourself. Hard to go wrong from that starting point.

^^^This. When the indulgent behavior makes one lose control, that's when it's time to think about rehabilitation. But if you don't over-indulge, and you aren't hurting anybody, I don't see the problem.

Mmhmm. As long as one can be disciplined / keep in control, or find a balance and are fine with it, I think it's okay.

 

[Littlesecret]

I believe it really depends on the individual, if the person is impressionable or has other tendencies that will effect rational judgement then yes, Porn is bad for them. However on a whole I'd say No.

 

[Ioann]

I think it is pretty well established that porn does produce dopamine, and is as addictive as drink, drugs, gambling, etc. It is true that some people manage to keep addictions under control, but it is very easy for things to get out of control. It tends to be a slippery slope.

One other factor is that computer games, porn, etc, are deliberately created to be addictive. Damian Thompson details this in his book 'The Fix'. Companies structure stuff in such a way as to entice people in and get them hooked. They employ psychologists to help them make their product more enticing.

 

[Alma lost her spoon]

One other factor is that computer games, porn, etc, are deliberately created to be addictive. Damian Thompson details this in his book 'The Fix'. Companies structure stuff in such a way as to entice people in and get them hooked. They employ psychologists to help them make their product more enticing.

If ever there was a case for making your own, then this could be it

 

[EveWasFramed]

I believe it really depends on the individual, if the person is impressionable or has other tendencies that will effect rational judgement then yes, Porn is bad for them. However on a whole I'd say No.

^^ This.

 

[cumulus.james]

I happen to be a Scientist.

Wait what? I thought you didn't have a job?

I am studying natural sciences, or I was. Working towards a PhD in Astrophysics.

 

[SophiaGrace]

I happen to be a Scientist.

Wait what? I thought you didn't have a job?

I am studying natural sciences, or I was. Working towards a PhD in Astrophysics.

Wow, you never mentioned that

That's really cool!

So… science question time, what about this particular study do you think makes it a strong study? Are the methods employed in it good?

 

[cumulus.james]

I happen to be a Scientist.

Wait what? I thought you didn't have a job?

I am studying natural sciences, or I was. Working towards a PhD in Astrophysics.

Wow, you never mentioned that

That's really cool!

So… science question time, what about this particular study do you think makes it a strong study? Are the methods employed in it good?

The methods employed in the 'experimental' natural sciences are rigorous and absolute. You can show a thing is true or it is not, no if, buts, or maybes. An experiment has to be repeatable, if it is true then you have a theory that can be show to work. But there are two meanings of theories in science and the public get mixed up about them. You have “theoretical” science which is where the theorists propose hypothesis as yet unproven, and the task is to devise an experiment to prove it. But when they talk of something like “the theory of relativity”, this does not mean it is just “a theory” - it means it is a framework, the equations work every time, but there is always more to learn, so you can never call it “the fact of relativity” because the more you know about it, the more there is to know. But we can send a robot to Mars, so it works so far.

With regards to other sciences things are not always so clear. If you are trialling a drug, for example, you have what is called the “study” group (those you administer the drug to) and the “control” group (those you administer a placebo to). Usually they are called “double-blind random” studies. This means those who are doing the studies do not know who has the drug or who does not. They only know the results. In theory this should work but.....

We live in a very greedy crony capitalist corporate run for profit before people society. So the drug companies have a habit of keep manipulating the studies they fund until they get result enough to get a licence, but hiding the negative ones. That is why we have legions of people on “meds” for mental health who are no better (in many cases worse). They pushed through their poisons under the guise of science and it was REALLY harmful to people like me. They abused the scientific method and discredited it. In this case it is not that the scientific method does not work, it's that the wrong people employ it, manipulate it, abuse it and exploit it.

I like an equation of physics or chemistry. It works every time, no if buts or maybes.

 

[jd7]

I think it is pretty well established that porn does produce dopamine, and is as addictive as drink, drugs, gambling, etc. It is true that some people manage to keep addictions under control, but it is very easy for things to get out of control. It tends to be a slippery slope.

One other factor is that computer games, porn, etc, are deliberately created to be addictive. Damian Thompson details this in his book 'The Fix'. Companies structure stuff in such a way as to entice people in and get them hooked. They employ psychologists to help them make their product more enticing.

Ah yes...marketing...

 

[NightHawkJohn]

I read a little on that site but would have to read more to make a more informed opinion on their views.

But from my own experience I don't see porn causing you massive problems in moderation, I think most people look at porn and most people seem to get on fine with relationships and being intimate etc, in fact many couples can quite happily watch porn together and a bit of fantasy is not a real problem as long as you can tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

I do think it may be a problem for some people who are prone to addictive behaviors but that would be the same for anything that has the same cycle of action and reward which interferes with your daily life.
For me that is not a problem I don't "need" to look at porn to get through the day and often become bored with it anyway.

But I also think its just part of being human, most people will glance at someone they find attractive as we are wired that way and I think porn is a way of doing that without directly bothering someone with your natural urges .
There are also those that say regular masturbation is healthy for mind and body I am sure they have as much "science" proving them right also.

I also am wary of what people call proof as there are groups of people who see that sort of thing as being wrong so will push anything to convince people it is bad for you.

I have more problems with the exploitative nature of porn as I have seen from people I have known how that lifestyle can be for people in that business, more the drugs and bad people that always seem to come with that lifestyle.