EveWasFramed
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You made your point in the first post of this kind. Please don't make the reference again.Arsenic Queen said:Like here.
You made your point in the first post of this kind. Please don't make the reference again.Arsenic Queen said:Like here.
floffyschneeman said:The OP and many others who have replied has acknowledged that pedophile is gruesome. I think by being open, the OP is minimizing the chance of temptations. By knowing he has the tendency, people have the chance to be cautious if they feel they are a target. I think that judging will only cause more trouble. Like what the OP have said, it's not something he can just spit out, he has to find a way to live with it, over come it, without doing something he may regret for the rest of his life that will hurt people and affect their lives. So please let us not make anyone feel unwelcomed, regardless of their background, specially if they have come here with the hope of finding help.
Pezza said:I don't mean to hijack the thread but was it really necessary to permanently ban Arsenic Queen? I understand she wasn't being civil but wouldn't a short term ban have been more appropriate? Pedophilia is understandably a disturbing and uncommon topic. Surely it's understandable that she has strong beliefs and opinions on the subject. There are members of this forum who have been abused as a child so it is not surprising that someone reacted badly to this thread despite it being wrong to do so.
I respect your decisions moderators but with all due respect in this case I don't agree with them.
-Pezza
EveWasFramed said:Pezza said:I don't mean to hijack the thread but was it really necessary to permanently ban Arsenic Queen? I understand she wasn't being civil but wouldn't a short term ban have been more appropriate? Pedophilia is understandably a disturbing and uncommon topic. Surely it's understandable that she has strong beliefs and opinions on the subject. There are members of this forum who have been abused as a child so it is not surprising that someone reacted badly to this thread despite it being wrong to do so.
I respect your decisions moderators but with all due respect in this case I don't agree with them.
-Pezza
I didn't ban her. I never even threatened to ban her. She PMd me and asked that she be removed so, at HER request, her account was deleted. I have no idea why you would think that anyone had banned her.
Pezza said:EveWasFramed said:Pezza said:I don't mean to hijack the thread but was it really necessary to permanently ban Arsenic Queen? I understand she wasn't being civil but wouldn't a short term ban have been more appropriate? Pedophilia is understandably a disturbing and uncommon topic. Surely it's understandable that she has strong beliefs and opinions on the subject. There are members of this forum who have been abused as a child so it is not surprising that someone reacted badly to this thread despite it being wrong to do so.
I respect your decisions moderators but with all due respect in this case I don't agree with them.
-Pezza
I didn't ban her. I never even threatened to ban her. She PMd me and asked that she be removed so, at HER request, her account was deleted. I have no idea why you would think that anyone had banned her.
My mistake Eve, I guess I didn't consider that possibility. It Seems a shame to lose a regular member of the forum like that. Sorry again.
Arsenic Queen said:I'll be honest. I'm completely against pedophilia. The idea of adults forcing young children to get painful/uncomfortable/shameful sexual treatments; and that these adults enjoy ruining childhoods; enjoy sinking innocent children to a suicidary, self-hating, no-life for the most of their best years, FOR SEX? It simply makes me sick to my stomach. It's just completely wrong, sorry.
It's great if you really don't act on it. You really have an outstanding self-control. Congratulations...
As for the "crutch" suggested, I dunno. I am not really sure how you can look at children and not be tempted to act on it. I would tend to agree with Eve, but I dunno how much it would solve the problem. Denial is not going to erase what you are. It risks amplifying it from the impossibility to speak up, and making it more difficult to control.
I don't know what to tell you.
Lonely in BC said:Arsenic Queen said:I'll be honest. I'm completely against pedophilia. The idea of adults forcing young children to get painful/uncomfortable/shameful sexual treatments; and that these adults enjoy ruining childhoods; enjoy sinking innocent children to a suicidary, self-hating, no-life for the most of their best years, FOR SEX? It simply makes me sick to my stomach. It's just completely wrong, sorry.
It's great if you really don't act on it. You really have an outstanding self-control. Congratulations...
As for the "crutch" suggested, I dunno. I am not really sure how you can look at children and not be tempted to act on it. I would tend to agree with Eve, but I dunno how much it would solve the problem. Denial is not going to erase what you are. It risks amplifying it from the impossibility to speak up, and making it more difficult to control.
I don't know what to tell you.
I'm in agreement with this- my initial response is a lot harsher as I have a young daughter and god help whoever looks at her the wrong way.
First, I'm not saying this to change you or anyone's mind. I am just clarifying. 12 step programs were originally developed in an age where it was just assumed everyone was religious. They has since adapted and changed, but we keep the original 12 steps and traditions the same in wording, changing them ONLY to fit with different types of addictions. Yes, it says God. No, it is no longer religious. It says in the readings it is a "spiritual, NOT religious program" and I for one have met many people who claim their "Higher Power" (anything that is more powerful than you, whether it be God, Shiva, Buddha, the group as a whole, the Hoover dam, etc) is a doorknob. Just clarifying =]anon6156 said:And lastly, it seems that, similar to AA, it's a religiously centered program. While I have no problem with that; I, personally, am an atheist and wouldn't be able to complete all of those steps honestly.
^That^SophiaGrace said:I see no help for him in condemnation.
There are fetishes on many many things, most of which are not harmful, such as an attraction to cars, or feet, or making sex with dolls.
I think it's good that he is controlling his urges, its condemnation that's made him hate himself and not be able to work it out with therapists. I hope he will be able to do so in the future.
He hasn't acted on his fetish (and you know what i mean by this) and is actively working to minimize harmful behaviors, so please stop looking down on him.
Minus said:It is not religious, it is the acceptance that there is a power greater than you. For many people that power is their religion or god. For many others it is not.
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