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As far as we know right now, life first began on earth about 3.45 billion years ago. Those first lives were prokaryotes, or simple, single-celled organisms with no nucleus or organelles. They had no drive for food because they just passively absorbed nutrients through theri cell membranes from the ambient environment, which bore those nutrients to them on water currrents. They didn't have a sex drive because they didn't have sexual differentiation. They didn't seek shelter because shelter was not needed. So what most people consider the basic human drives, food, sex and shelter, were absent from the first life on earth. But it's even more extreme than that. They didn't even have genes! Without a nucleus they had no DNA and they also didn't have RNA. We don't know whether they divided or reproduced by any means at all.

Yet we do know something that even makes it possible for us to discover traces of these first lives: they formed colonies. Whether they had any kind of instinct to form colonies or not is open to debate, but form colonies they did. Which is something they appear to have inherited from inanimate objects, because there are countless natural examples of non-organic accumulation, including the accumulation of silt on the beds of bodies of water and the very coalescing of interstellar gas into stars and planets.

So it turns out that belonging to groups is the oldest property of life, and is probably older than life itself. Which suggests that what we experience when our push to belong to groups is frustrated, namely loneliness, is about as fundamental an experience as is possible for us as living things.

But I see such precursor properties to be atavizing. Like all such things, loneliness takes us back to a time before even genes existed, and puts us in a pre-gene mindset. That is not a mindset I consider appropriate for myself as a member of homo sapiens sapiens. So I see any feeling of loneliness I ever have, and any need to be around other people, as something to be conquered in my pursuit of becoming purely human. And I keep posting here only because I haven't conquered it yet.
 
Here is my strange belief on this. Humans are much like parasites or more specifically like fungi and bacteria colonizing a cell. The cell being earth in this case. Occasionally selected bacteria are deprived of essential nutrients or exposed to a hostile environment. When these bacteria are repeatedly challenged they evolve differently than the peaceful colony of which they belong to. Soon they are exhibiting behaviours and adaptive responses that are so far derived from thier originally colony they become mutants. They become antibiotic resistant.
Lonely people are the anti biotic resistant, what hasn't killed us makes us stronger but we are no longer able to peacefully co-exist with our original colonies as we are no longer exhibiting similar thoughts, traits and actions .
 
stork_error said:
Here is my strange belief on this. Humans are much like parasites or more specifically like fungi and bacteria colonizing a cell. The cell being earth in this case. Occasionally selected bacteria are deprived of essential nutrients or exposed to a hostile environment. When these bacteria are repeatedly challenged they evolve differently than the peaceful colony of which they belong to. Soon they are exhibiting behaviours and adaptive responses that are so far derived from thier originally colony they become mutants. They become antibiotic resistant.
Lonely people are the anti biotic resistant, what hasn't killed us makes us stronger but we are no longer able to peacefully co-exist with our original colonies as we are no longer exhibiting similar thoughts, traits and actions .

I like that. Separation from the colony does lead to divergence from it, for sure, and the environmental variants increase the divergence. But in a prokaryote that would take place over multiple generations and be a factor of natural selection. How does it work within the lifetime of a single person? Or is it the cells of our bodies and brains that are naturally selected?
 
stork_error said:
Here is my strange belief on this. Humans are much like parasites or more specifically like fungi and bacteria colonizing a cell. The cell being earth in this case. Occasionally selected bacteria are deprived of essential nutrients or exposed to a hostile environment. When these bacteria are repeatedly challenged they evolve differently than the peaceful colony of which they belong to. Soon they are exhibiting behaviours and adaptive responses that are so far derived from thier originally colony they become mutants. They become antibiotic resistant.
Lonely people are the anti biotic resistant, what hasn't killed us makes us stronger but we are no longer able to peacefully co-exist with our original colonies as we are no longer exhibiting similar thoughts, traits and actions .


Great post.
most people live off the life of another like vampires to fulfill a lack in them. I call it socialism.
 
madera23 said:
Great post.
most people live off the life of another like vampires to fulfill a lack in them. I call it socialism.
Socialism is already a thing and has nothing to do with vampires or living off of someone else.
 
Despicable Me said:
madera23 said:
Great post.
most people live off the life of another like vampires to fulfill a lack in them. I call it socialism.
Socialism is already a thing and has nothing to do with vampires or living off of someone else.
sorry, but that is humsn nature. Does anyone or any situation, take your energy.?
That is a form of vampirism.
 
madera23 said:
stork_error said:
Here is my strange belief on this. Humans are much like parasites or more specifically like fungi and bacteria colonizing a cell. The cell being earth in this case. Occasionally selected bacteria are deprived of essential nutrients or exposed to a hostile environment. When these bacteria are repeatedly challenged they evolve differently than the peaceful colony of which they belong to. Soon they are exhibiting behaviours and adaptive responses that are so far derived from thier originally colony they become mutants. They become antibiotic resistant.
Lonely people are the anti biotic resistant, what hasn't killed us makes us stronger but we are no longer able to peacefully co-exist with our original colonies as we are no longer exhibiting similar thoughts, traits and actions .


Great post.
most people live off the life of another like vampires to fulfill a lack in them. I call it socialism.

Why do you feel the need to bring in politics? :/
 
looking glass said:
madera23 said:
stork_error said:
Here is my strange belief on this. Humans are much like parasites or more specifically like fungi and bacteria colonizing a cell. The cell being earth in this case. Occasionally selected bacteria are deprived of essential nutrients or exposed to a hostile environment. When these bacteria are repeatedly challenged they evolve differently than the peaceful colony of which they belong to. Soon they are exhibiting behaviours and adaptive responses that are so far derived from thier originally colony they become mutants. They become antibiotic resistant.
Lonely people are the anti biotic resistant, what hasn't killed us makes us stronger but we are no longer able to peacefully co-exist with our original colonies as we are no longer exhibiting similar thoughts, traits and actions .


Great post.
most people live off the life of another like vampires to fulfill a lack in them. I call it socialism.

Because we live in a parasitical society. Thanks to obama who is a socialist and a curse to this country which has become a welfare state.

Why do you feel the need to bring in politics? :/
 
Madera, people could read what you write a lot better if you would use the quoting system properly. It's very hard to find what you write because you write it in the quote, instead of outside of the quote.

As for what our country is, when you look for everything negative, of course you won't see anything good. I was on welfare for a while, I guess that makes me a leech, because through no real fault of my own, I needed help for a few years?

You seem to be very judgmental of.....well, everything.
 
madera23 said:
Despicable Me said:
madera23 said:
Great post.
most people live off the life of another like vampires to fulfill a lack in them. I call it socialism.
Socialism is already a thing and has nothing to do with vampires or living off of someone else.


sorry, but that is humsn nature. Does anyone or any situation, take your energy.?
That is a form of vampirism.

That may be your nature, not mine. You are trying to take mine though.Lol
 
TheRealCallie said:
Madera, people could read what you write a lot better if you would use the quoting system properly. It's very hard to find what you write because you write it in the quote, instead of outside of the quote.

As for what our country is, when you look for everything negative, of course you won't see anything good. I was on welfare for a while, I guess that makes me a leech, because through no real fault of my own, I needed help for a few years?

You seem to be very judgmental of.....well, everything.

I am on my computer now, my other messages are made on my tablet.
On my tablet I am unable to get past the quote so I do the best I can.

I judge righteously, I do not judge I just speak the truth,
There is nothing wrong taking welfare till people get on their feet.
I speak of those who do it all their lives and it is spread to their children.
 
madera23 said:
I am on my computer now, my other messages are made on my tablet.
On my tablet I am unable to get past the quote so I do the best I can.

I judge righteously, I do not judge I just speak the truth,
There is nothing wrong taking welfare till people get on their feet.
I speak of those who do it all their lives and it is spread to their children.

As I said, it's very hard to figure out what you wrote, perhaps you could at least change the color or something if you can't get below the quote. Or maybe even put your reply before the quote.

You can't judge righteously. That's not your job to do. Might I direct you to Matthew 7: 1-3......
 
john/7-24.htm





"Stop judging by appearances, but judge with righteous judgment!" Do not judge according to external appearance, but judge with proper judgment."
 

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