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Do you think cannabis should be made totally legal?I've totally changed my mind...what's your opinion?
IncolaVacui said:If people use it responsibly, that would probably help. Unfortunately more and more people are less responsible with it. For me it's a better alternative to alcohol, and it makes music and creative thoughts more interesting. I don't really like being out and about when I'm stoned, I'm way more inclined to listen to some music or watch a documentary on astronomy, or something like that. It helps me with depression and anxiety, versus drinking which, kind of makes depression worse. It's very much a on my own time kind of a thing for me. Reading, while stoned, is awesome for me because I'm creative and so it launches me into my imagination that much more.
9006 said:It's like anything; if it's abused then it becomes a problem. It's never appealed to me at all and when I was younger "getting high" was considered the cool thing to do (as well as smoking in general) and as some people grew into fully grown adults it followed them and it's pretty much all they did/do.
There's a lot of controversy over it being made legal and the implications. I don't know weather it's addictive or not since I've never really smoked it.. I once formed an opinion that it was just habit, but a lot of people (Young and older) spend hundreds of pounds a month on it and still smoke it every day and to me that sounds like a bit more than a habit.
Speaking from someone who lives in the UK I think if it was legal and free to use certain places would look like something out of the silent hill movies. Despite it being illegal for recreational use a small minority still walk around smoking it (particularly young teens) and the smell really is disgusting, I really can't stand it. I think it would be another poor example to the newer generation, and it would be pretty hypocritical from the government by saying smoking is the worst thing ever but smoking weed is ok.
Joturbo said:I' m sort of confused though because the people I know that partake it hold down jobs long term e.t.c.
ringwood said:It became legal in my country this year. I am all for it. I personally don’t touch the stuff (aside from some experimentation in my teens and early 20’s - 20+ years ago now), but if people want to partake, go for it. It was a huge deal in the weeks before it officially became legal - all over the media for days on end, but now that it’s been legal for a few months it’s business as usual - the people that use it continue to, the rest don’t really care. It takes a huge burden off the police, and they can focus on more serious crime rather than busting someone for a little bag of weed. There’s also a booming business in cannabis-related products.
Joturbo said:ringwood said:It became legal in my country this year. I am all for it. I personally don’t touch the stuff (aside from some experimentation in my teens and early 20’s - 20+ years ago now), but if people want to partake, go for it. It was a huge deal in the weeks before it officially became legal - all over the media for days on end, but now that it’s been legal for a few months it’s business as usual - the people that use it continue to, the rest don’t really care. It takes a huge burden off the police, and they can focus on more serious crime rather than busting someone for a little bag of weed. There’s also a booming business in cannabis-related products.
Thanks Ringwood
Has there been any spike in driving while on cannabis in Canada.Do you think it would be different in places like London where everything is more condensed than Canada apart from your main cities obviously.Do you think the detection of drivers under the influence of cannabis would be difficult compared to drink driving?
ringwood said:Joturbo said:ringwood said:It became legal in my country this year. I am all for it. I personally don’t touch the stuff (aside from some experimentation in my teens and early 20’s - 20+ years ago now), but if people want to partake, go for it. It was a huge deal in the weeks before it officially became legal - all over the media for days on end, but now that it’s been legal for a few months it’s business as usual - the people that use it continue to, the rest don’t really care. It takes a huge burden off the police, and they can focus on more serious crime rather than busting someone for a little bag of weed. There’s also a booming business in cannabis-related products.
Thanks Ringwood
Has there been any spike in driving while on cannabis in Canada.Do you think it would be different in places like London where everything is more condensed than Canada apart from your main cities obviously.Do you think the detection of drivers under the influence of cannabis would be difficult compared to drink driving?
I don’t think so, no more than usual. You might find these links useful - https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/public-safety/cannabis
https://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/tickets/Pages/drug-impaired-driving-new-laws.aspx
The laws around cannabis are similar to those we have for alcohol - you can’t just walk down the street toking a joint, same as you can’t wander down the road with an open beer can.
Enpatsu No Shakugan said:No. I know it's harmless and has some effects, but I just don't care for it. I remember being annoyed when this was only being being rallied for by obvious stoners, and they were hamming up "effects" and all that. I just wanted to say, "Come on, you just want to get high, stop bullshitting."
So, no.
LostintheBardo said:All drugs should be legalized in my opinion or at least decriminalized. Whether you like it or not, the war on drugs approach has never succeeded anywhere.
Enpatsu No Shakugan said:No. I know it's harmless and has some effects, but I just don't care for it. I remember being annoyed when this was only being being rallied for by obvious stoners, and they were hamming up "effects" and all that. I just wanted to say, "Come on, you just want to get high, stop bullshitting."
So, no.
That is a really stupid reason to be against legalization of something just because you "don't care for it." People shouldn't have to fear ending up with a criminal record (or sent to prison in a minority of cases) just for something that is far less harmful than Alcohol. Also, legalization isn't proven to cause a jump in consumption.
You do also realize that those "stoners" you are talking about can usually get high regardless right?
Enpatsu No Shakugan said:LostintheBardo said:All drugs should be legalized in my opinion or at least decriminalized. Whether you like it or not, the war on drugs approach has never succeeded anywhere.
Enpatsu No Shakugan said:No. I know it's harmless and has some effects, but I just don't care for it. I remember being annoyed when this was only being being rallied for by obvious stoners, and they were hamming up "effects" and all that. I just wanted to say, "Come on, you just want to get high, stop bullshitting."
So, no.
That is a really stupid reason to be against legalization of something just because you "don't care for it." People shouldn't have to fear ending up with a criminal record (or sent to prison in a minority of cases) just for something that is far less harmful than Alcohol. Also, legalization isn't proven to cause a jump in consumption.
You do also realize that those "stoners" you are talking about can usually get high regardless right?
I don't have strong preferences either way, but why would I ever want to cater to people I don't like and give them what they want?
LostintheBardo said:Enpatsu No Shakugan said:LostintheBardo said:All drugs should be legalized in my opinion or at least decriminalized. Whether you like it or not, the war on drugs approach has never succeeded anywhere.
Enpatsu No Shakugan said:No. I know it's harmless and has some effects, but I just don't care for it. I remember being annoyed when this was only being being rallied for by obvious stoners, and they were hamming up "effects" and all that. I just wanted to say, "Come on, you just want to get high, stop bullshitting."
So, no.
That is a really stupid reason to be against legalization of something just because you "don't care for it." People shouldn't have to fear ending up with a criminal record (or sent to prison in a minority of cases) just for something that is far less harmful than Alcohol. Also, legalization isn't proven to cause a jump in consumption.
You do also realize that those "stoners" you are talking about can usually get high regardless right?
I don't have strong preferences either way, but why would I ever want to cater to people I don't like and give them what they want?
Um, maybe in recognition of the fact that those people in the very least probably don't deserve to be criminalized on such a basis? For what it's worth, I'm not much a fan of anime, I certainly don't think the people who do like it should have to watch it in secret to avoid legal prosecution of any kind.
I'd like to add that Cannabis has helped me to come out of a really self-destructive phase of my life and that I think I would have ruined my entire 20s (I've just turned 28) if I hadn't got into it. I'm in a much healthier mindset nowadays and am focused on what matters in life. Just another perspective to consider.
Azariah said:Its a ******* plant.
They should make prescription drugs illegal from all the overdoses that have happened. Lol.
Joturbo said:Thanks IncolaVacui
For replying.I've always been a drinker and know the benefits and pitfalls e.g depression of that addiction. However I've never smoked cannabis but know people that do but have never asked the question what it does for them.I know they lead normal lives on it but have witnessed when they graduate to cocaine when their lives just hit rock bottom.
Forgive my lack of knowledge about it but increasingly realise I'm one of the few in society that don't smoke it but maybe that's the result of being a drinker.
Also just wondered if it was totally legal what the likely outcome would be..thanks again.
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