firebird85
Well-known member
You never will. Nobody will. It's not possible. I have yet to see a woman who isn't shallow or materialistic. Hell, I have yet to meet a girl period. I have yet to meet anybody on this earth who isn't materialistic in some way. Yes I think it's wrong. No, there is NOT a difference between being shallow and having a preference. Every "preference" you have will always snub and exclude someone else who doesn't share that same preference. And of course, those people you snub are going to be hurting because of it. Even if you don't mean for that to happen. It still will. So when a woman says she wants a man who is financially stable or has money, the guys who are financially stable nod, but the guys who work at walmart or collect disability for mental illness are on the other side of the room saying wow, what am I going to do? I can't overcome this standard women have, I guess I'm SOL.
I feel it's a no-situation for many guys. Stuff like mental illness, poverty, depression, lack of friends, lack of a place in society, and any issues related to that are the kiss of death when it comes to attracting a female. It really is a strike system. The more strikes, the worse off you are.
Nowadays we live in a society where it's all about your financial status, your looks, and how good you can lie and decieve people either with a fake personality or anything else. But nobody's perfect themselves. I think that's a huge issue itself. We are programmed (dare I say women are more vulnerable to this programming) on what is good and what is bad. Yeah, you might say I'm crazy for arguing with this "attraction" process, but I do think things have gotten worse. And I do think one gender has the cards stacked against them in the current era.
I care about what other people think of me. There is nothing wrong with that. That just is the way I am, and means I'm concious, and careful towards how I project myself and display myself to other human beings. I'm an honest person and I'm straight forward. I can't change that, and don't really want to. I'm not like the guys in the hollywood movies, I'm just me.
I think if a guy has to change himself in order to get a female or member of the opposite sex into his life, women should have to change as well. If I, as a male, need to take some "provider" role and have money just to say hello to a woman or get to know her then I expect something from the woman as well. Not sex either. Women need to bring something to the table besides sex, and I think alot of them don't really anything but that, unfortunately. It's not supposed to be a one way street. When 2 people are potential partners both are supposed to bring something to the table, it's not supposed to be one person doing everything and have the advantage. That is wrong. I also think it's really ironic, how women still expect men to be financially stable but they created a mainstream movement called feminism that demands equal rights and financial opportunities in the workforce. So what one is it? keep men chained in these ancient "roles" while women have freedom or make it fair for all of us?
I think the claim about women only dating/being interested/marrying "up" is in fact, true. Seems like everywhere I look, I'll see a normal guy, who has a disabled girlfriend who is deaf, autistic, or a parapalegic. Maybe women like that are easy to decieve, maybe it's because men have more compassion. On the other side of the coin, It's very rare that I'll see a normal woman together with a disabled man. Never any men who have these same kind of handicaps. It gives me some proof to support the claim that women only date up and aren't interested in men who are "inferior" to them, and I think that's really awful if women are like that. Like I can go on these dating sites for people with bi-polar, and there's like thousands and thousands of men who say they never had a girlfriend, but there's limited numbers of women, and most of them are divorced with 3 kids. It's just really weird. I've gathered so much proof to support my theory of the dating scene and relationship scene system being stacked against men and in favor of women, but none of the contrary (that this is just a conspiracy theory).
I was listening to a radio show the other day, and suprisingly they were talking about this exact topic. Trying to find a girlfriend when you have no friendships of either gender. The consensus was, it was not possible.
I don't know, alot of things in this life make no sense to me, especially dating and relationships. You won't get to know someone, even as a friend, unless they have a job? you won't talk to someone unless they already have friends? how can people even think like this? My standards are nothing compared to what the rest of the masses in society looks for.
If I can't even get one soul, on this 7 billion populated planet, to take me seriously, or be my friend, what are my chances of getting a girl to like me and fall for me? If I can't even go outside somewhere, look at someone, and say hello, and establish some kind of connection with another soul how am I supposed to get a person of the opposite sex?
I've been isolated and truly lonely since I was 15. Not isolated in the idea of trapping myself in a closet or anything, I still lived and am living, did what I had to do, went out, continued my purpose as a human, which was to survive. But I was still lonely on the inside, and still lonely on the outside because I had no "friends" and still don't. I never spent teenage years going to parties or getting first kisses or first dates or losing virginity. I never had tons of contacts in a cell phone. I was truly alone, with nobody to talk. I wish I had friends in real life, but it's been so long, and now I'm just permanently the quiet type, and anti-social type, unless it's a person like me. Confrontational people aren't my type. It's hard to explain what type is.Being me and existing turns people off, and I can't change other people, so it doesn't matter really what I do, as much as I'd like for things to be different.
I'm white, and I'm only interested in white girls. I'm also skinny, and I'm only interested in thin women. I'd like her to be honest, rational, maybe a little funny sometimes, preferably a christian. If she had no friends, I'd see that as a plus, more time for US! HTF is that a negative to people? Are we turning into soul-less drones or something? This goes back to what I said about the media telling us lonely people are not to be trusted and dangerous to society, which is more propaganda.
Meanwhile, a woman expects a man to have a certain income levels, a certain type of looks (usually whatever hollywood throws at us) and of course a certain personality (emo generation, thug gangster tough guy attitude) and of course he needs to have a car and live on his own. He also needs to not be a virgin, otherwise he's a serial killer in denial and have a social life, and social status.
and again, you might say what does it matter if women have higher expectations for men? well, I'll tell you why. Because it's a slap in the face to the guy who can't meet those expectations that women have. I'm on the other side, without the chance to compete, of course it's going to hurt me.
It hurts. That's why.
Now you know why those guys say they are forced to be lonely and single?
At least the guy admits that women care alot about money. More importantly, women can be just as shallow as everyone says men are!
[video=youtube]
I feel it's a no-situation for many guys. Stuff like mental illness, poverty, depression, lack of friends, lack of a place in society, and any issues related to that are the kiss of death when it comes to attracting a female. It really is a strike system. The more strikes, the worse off you are.
Nowadays we live in a society where it's all about your financial status, your looks, and how good you can lie and decieve people either with a fake personality or anything else. But nobody's perfect themselves. I think that's a huge issue itself. We are programmed (dare I say women are more vulnerable to this programming) on what is good and what is bad. Yeah, you might say I'm crazy for arguing with this "attraction" process, but I do think things have gotten worse. And I do think one gender has the cards stacked against them in the current era.
I care about what other people think of me. There is nothing wrong with that. That just is the way I am, and means I'm concious, and careful towards how I project myself and display myself to other human beings. I'm an honest person and I'm straight forward. I can't change that, and don't really want to. I'm not like the guys in the hollywood movies, I'm just me.
I think if a guy has to change himself in order to get a female or member of the opposite sex into his life, women should have to change as well. If I, as a male, need to take some "provider" role and have money just to say hello to a woman or get to know her then I expect something from the woman as well. Not sex either. Women need to bring something to the table besides sex, and I think alot of them don't really anything but that, unfortunately. It's not supposed to be a one way street. When 2 people are potential partners both are supposed to bring something to the table, it's not supposed to be one person doing everything and have the advantage. That is wrong. I also think it's really ironic, how women still expect men to be financially stable but they created a mainstream movement called feminism that demands equal rights and financial opportunities in the workforce. So what one is it? keep men chained in these ancient "roles" while women have freedom or make it fair for all of us?
I think the claim about women only dating/being interested/marrying "up" is in fact, true. Seems like everywhere I look, I'll see a normal guy, who has a disabled girlfriend who is deaf, autistic, or a parapalegic. Maybe women like that are easy to decieve, maybe it's because men have more compassion. On the other side of the coin, It's very rare that I'll see a normal woman together with a disabled man. Never any men who have these same kind of handicaps. It gives me some proof to support the claim that women only date up and aren't interested in men who are "inferior" to them, and I think that's really awful if women are like that. Like I can go on these dating sites for people with bi-polar, and there's like thousands and thousands of men who say they never had a girlfriend, but there's limited numbers of women, and most of them are divorced with 3 kids. It's just really weird. I've gathered so much proof to support my theory of the dating scene and relationship scene system being stacked against men and in favor of women, but none of the contrary (that this is just a conspiracy theory).
I was listening to a radio show the other day, and suprisingly they were talking about this exact topic. Trying to find a girlfriend when you have no friendships of either gender. The consensus was, it was not possible.
I don't know, alot of things in this life make no sense to me, especially dating and relationships. You won't get to know someone, even as a friend, unless they have a job? you won't talk to someone unless they already have friends? how can people even think like this? My standards are nothing compared to what the rest of the masses in society looks for.
If I can't even get one soul, on this 7 billion populated planet, to take me seriously, or be my friend, what are my chances of getting a girl to like me and fall for me? If I can't even go outside somewhere, look at someone, and say hello, and establish some kind of connection with another soul how am I supposed to get a person of the opposite sex?
I've been isolated and truly lonely since I was 15. Not isolated in the idea of trapping myself in a closet or anything, I still lived and am living, did what I had to do, went out, continued my purpose as a human, which was to survive. But I was still lonely on the inside, and still lonely on the outside because I had no "friends" and still don't. I never spent teenage years going to parties or getting first kisses or first dates or losing virginity. I never had tons of contacts in a cell phone. I was truly alone, with nobody to talk. I wish I had friends in real life, but it's been so long, and now I'm just permanently the quiet type, and anti-social type, unless it's a person like me. Confrontational people aren't my type. It's hard to explain what type is.Being me and existing turns people off, and I can't change other people, so it doesn't matter really what I do, as much as I'd like for things to be different.
I'm white, and I'm only interested in white girls. I'm also skinny, and I'm only interested in thin women. I'd like her to be honest, rational, maybe a little funny sometimes, preferably a christian. If she had no friends, I'd see that as a plus, more time for US! HTF is that a negative to people? Are we turning into soul-less drones or something? This goes back to what I said about the media telling us lonely people are not to be trusted and dangerous to society, which is more propaganda.
Meanwhile, a woman expects a man to have a certain income levels, a certain type of looks (usually whatever hollywood throws at us) and of course a certain personality (emo generation, thug gangster tough guy attitude) and of course he needs to have a car and live on his own. He also needs to not be a virgin, otherwise he's a serial killer in denial and have a social life, and social status.
and again, you might say what does it matter if women have higher expectations for men? well, I'll tell you why. Because it's a slap in the face to the guy who can't meet those expectations that women have. I'm on the other side, without the chance to compete, of course it's going to hurt me.
It hurts. That's why.
Now you know why those guys say they are forced to be lonely and single?
At least the guy admits that women care alot about money. More importantly, women can be just as shallow as everyone says men are!
[video=youtube]
anyway I have the gist....
