Online Dating?

[Ghost77]

Some facts:

Tinder rates the attractiveness of its users using some fairly complex algorithms.
Tinder is used equally by men and women (more men than women is a myth).
The top 80% of women match with the top 20% of men.
The other 80% of the men compete for the attention of the bottom 20% of the women.
An average looking woman will get a like from 50% of the men who see her profile.
An average looking man will get a like from less than 1% of the women who see his profile.
Source: https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

Some opinions:
Thanks to feminism women now have their own jobs, houses, and kids if they want them. Thanks to the Internet all but the least attractive women can get free sex whenever they want it, and not just with anyone but with one of the top 20% hottest guys on Tinder. We’ve created a world where the average looking guy has nothing to offer to the average looking girl except companionship. Not all women are even looking for that, and the ones that are have an inflated sense of self worth because they can get messed by a hot guy whenever they like.

And some feminists still have the nerve to say women have it hard in this world.

 

[Red_Wedding_Casualty]

Careful with that F bomb there man. I've seen people get banned for that.

Seriously, as far as the debate goes on whether or not women do or do not have things hard, is a whole can of worms I don't wish to open. But, this is the reality of the situation a great many of us find ourselves in. Case in point: I'm an average looking guy, with a secure full time job, and I've held a 2 bedroom unit by myself for almost 5 years. 20 years ago, I would have been husband material. But now? Not even worth a head turn. And that's fine. Considering I can work a low stress job, and earn enough to live comfortably on my own, I could do alot worse. Like I said: I know how this ends for me. What I worry about is how this ends for 'us'.

 

[user 139760]

Oh look ma, another "women have it easy poor widdle average me thread".
Nice segway from "Online dating is a money making scam".
I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

 

[Ghost77]

Oh look ma, another "women have it easy poor widdle average me thread".
Nice segway from "Online dating is a money making scam".
I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

If these “threads” keep cropping up maybe that should tell you something?

 

[kamya]

Oh look ma, another "women have it easy poor widdle average me thread".
Nice segway from "Online dating is a money making scam".
I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

Do you actually disagree with anything he said though or do you just not like people that complain?

 

[TheRealCallie]

Oh look ma, another "women have it easy poor widdle average me thread".
Nice segway from "Online dating is a money making scam".
I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

If these “threads” keep cropping up maybe that should tell you something?

Tells me and a few others a lot, but you all don't want to hear it.

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Oh and btw, that's hardly a "reliable" study and I don't know if I would really call them "facts."

 

[Ghost77]

Oh look ma, another "women have it easy poor widdle average me thread".
Nice segway from "Online dating is a money making scam".
I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

If these “threads” keep cropping up maybe that should tell you something?

Tells me and a few others a lot, but you all don't want to hear it.

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Oh and btw, that's hardly a "reliable" study and I don't know if I would really call them "facts."

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Two for two on condescension without an argument. Do “you and a few others” have anything to contribute other than your sense of superiority?

 

[TheRealCallie]

Oh look ma, another "women have it easy poor widdle average me thread".
Nice segway from "Online dating is a money making scam".
I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

If these “threads” keep cropping up maybe that should tell you something?

Tells me and a few others a lot, but you all don't want to hear it.

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Oh and btw, that's hardly a "reliable" study and I don't know if I would really call them "facts."

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Two for two on condescension without an argument. Do “you and a few others” have anything to contribute other than your sense of superiority?

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Pretty sure it's already been said.  Feel free to go find it. 
And all the "facts" are NOT said in that study. For example.  The fact that MEN are more prone to look for sex than women, so obviously women are going to get more replies.  Especially the "good looking" women.  You'll find that MOST of the replies they get are men looking for a fresia and dump. 
Not to mention you guys seem to care what society thinks WAY too **** much and are extremely negative.  A lot of you go into something thinking you will fail and guess what?  It shows. 

Stop caring about what society thinks. Stop caring what some crap website says.  Start being yourself, start finding some confidence, start worrying about your **** self.

 

[VanillaCreme]

I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

Ha, love it. Nothing wrong with a man with some boobie.

If these “threads” keep cropping up maybe that should tell you something?

Do you actually disagree with anything he said though or do you just not like people that complain?

Doesn't tell much of anything. Just that people can complain.

 

[kamya]

Stop caring about what society thinks. Stop caring what some crap website says.  Start being yourself, start finding some confidence, start worrying about your **** self.

And when they still fail then what?

 

[TheRealCallie]

Stop caring about what society thinks. Stop caring what some crap website says.  Start being yourself, start finding some confidence, start worrying about your **** self.

And when you still fail then what?

If you fail, that means you gave up, which means, you didn't do any of that....

 

[ardour]

Stop caring about what society thinks. Stop caring what some crap website says.  Start being yourself, start finding some confidence, start worrying about your **** self.

And when they still fail then what?

It's 100% their fault.  We've been here long enough to know how this plays out.

Even assuming, say, 70% of the messages  men send are  of the sleazy proposition type, that remaining 30% or so means women looking for companionship still have dozens of suitable offers. Compared to the average guy's zero offers. In this online many-to-few context, average dudes have nothing that sets them apart and the below average have no hope at all.  
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[Xpendable]

The 80/20 rule.

 

[pad79]

And some feminists still have the nerve to say women have it hard in this world.

Depends what they are looking for.

Is it easier for women to find someone to laid with than men on the internet. 100% yes it is.

Is it easier for women to find a trusting caring loving partner and a loving relationship more than is it than men: 100% NO. that's just as challenging for both.

 

[TheRealCallie]

And some feminists still have the nerve to say women have it hard in this world.

Depends what they are looking for.

Is it easier for women to find someone to laid with than men on the internet. 100% yes it is.

Is it easier for women to find a trusting caring loving partner and a loving relationship more than is it than men: 100% NO. that's just as challenging for both.

Exactly.  Not to mention the predators that on on those apps.  You know they are.

 

[Red_Wedding_Casualty]

@Ghost77, or the OP, or whoever might be reading this. If that brief exchange was anything to go by, then you should steer clear of sites like these. Or at least limit your interaction with them. I get why places like this might be appealing to the romantically challenged. You feel alone and lonely, but it's somewhat comforting knowing that you're not the only one dealing with this struggle(hell, it's why I signed on once upon a time ago). At least it seems that way on the surface. Problem with places like this is that people start to out-lonely each other, and it quickly turns into the loneliness olympics. And this is before considering that this sub board is essentially Callie's stomping ground. Let's be completely honest about the layout of the land here.....

The harsh truth is that, we are very much alone in all of this. And for most of us, the only real solution is to get better at being alone. If you have club going friends, try to put some distance between them. Believe me: over exposure to those kinds of environments is only going to make that loneliness sting even worse when you're looking into a world that's beyond your reach. Find a light hobby to lose yourself in. And be very picky about engaging with communities attached to that hobby. Ideally, you want a hobby that you can enjoy with other people, but doesn't require other people to enjoy it with. If, like me you're one of the many romantically challenged dudes out there, the communities you do interact with need to be almost exclusively male. Females can't be avoided, make sure they're either the time you're not attracted to, or you're not in a position to interact with them alot. The ultimate idea is to get yourself into a state of mind where you won't even feel the need to bemoan your loneliness on places like these.

Oh, and don't be afraid of porn. Because most of us can't live the monk life. And it doesn't end well for those who try doing so with the wrong intentions.

 

[user 139760]

Oh look ma, another "women have it easy poor widdle average me thread".
Nice segway from "Online dating is a money making scam".
I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

Do you actually disagree with anything he said though or do you just not like people that complain?

Complaining seems to be the main fortay of men in 2018. I honestly don't have much of an opinion either way, as stuff like this passes me by 100 miles overhead, but if I was a girl and saw guys whine so much? Hell yeah, major turn on.
I don't disagree on any particular point, I'm sure everyone's mum is a scholar on the subject, and don't mind the complaining. I'm just unsurprised. This defeatism was the norm even before the invention of the internet, go figure...
But don't mind me, please, proceed.

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I guess I wish I was born with tits. Couple more years and hamburgers in, I'll probably have them, though.

Ha, love it. Nothing wrong with a man with some boobie

Lol You bet. With all the excitement I've had in the last two years, my life is just too much interesting, growing some boobies and eating like there's no tomorrow may well become a life objective ;-)

 

[Ghost77]

Okay firstly to the people commenting that men just complain a lot these days, I’d say consider how you’d feel about a man reacting that way to the suffragette movement back in the day. “Women like to complain a lot theses days”. Yes they did, and they had good reason. You can wave a dismissive hand if you like, but IMO this isn’t a problem that’s going to go away just because you refuse to see the merit in in the arguments you’re hearing. Men have gotten a raw deal and they’re pissed about it. That’s why the popularity of feminism is sinking like a lead balloon.

To those saying men on Tinder are just looking for sex, I can only assume you’re either female or haven’t spent much time on tinder, because most of the women on there are also looking for sex. Most of the women I match with have the exact same story. Split with husband x months ago, went on a tinder sex spree and got laid by a bunch of hot guys. They often say they did it to “get their confidence back”. Some admit they just like having sex with hot guys.

And to the person who told me to “stop worrying about what society thinks”... what??? I don’t know where that came from or what it has to do with the conversation.

 

[VanillaCreme]

Stop caring about what society thinks. Stop caring what some crap website says.  Start being yourself, start finding some confidence, start worrying about your **** self.

And when they still fail then what?

Keep on truckin'

 

[DarkSelene]

Stop caring about what society thinks. Stop caring what some crap website says.  Start being yourself, start finding some confidence, start worrying about your **** self.

And when they still fail then what?

Keep on truckin'

And if they keep failing forever and no amount of effort works, they find this place because they have nothing else, they complain because there's nothing left to try and they see people going through the same things and it's a confirmation of how hard it's going for males in general... and you guys show up to say they're giving up too easy.