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Well?

  • I have, 110% There's no one for me. =(

    Votes: 8 30.8%
  • I've sort of have, I'm just waiting for someone to make a move on me. =/

    Votes: 11 42.3%
  • I've sort of haven't, there's always someone for everyone. =)

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • I haven't, heck, I even make the first move! =D

    Votes: 4 15.4%

  • Total voters
    26
If dating were this honest endeavour between mature individuals putting in equal effort, willing cut each other a little slack from time to time, it might be worth the inevitable disappointments.

But, no, it’ll be up to me to carry the conversation while the person sits back and judges me, and homie's not willing to play that now.

The only thing I've learnt is a man who isn’t perfectly 'together' basically has no value to anyone. That attitude doesn’t change when people hit 30 and supposedly start looking for a companion. Goal posts merely shift to other indicators of status. I know if someone were aware of my lack of dating history, and for some reason was still willing to give me a chance, they’re likely to be obsessively searching for reasons not to see me again. The smallest things will be used to discount me as a partner. Any hint social awkwardness will be jumped on to prove how there’s something wrong with me, my worth dismissed in an instant because of an awkward smile or a misplaced laugh.
 
ardour said:
If dating were this honest endeavour between mature individuals willing putting in equal effort, willing cut each other a little slack from time to time, it might be worth the inevitable disappointments.

But, no, it’s up to me carry the conversation while the person sits back and judges me, and homie's not willing to play that now.

The only thing I've learnt is that  man who isn’t perfectly 'together'  basically has no value to anyone. That attitude doesn’t change when people hit 30 and supposedly start looking for a companion. Goal posts merely shift to other indicators of status.   I know if someone were aware of my lack of dating history, and for some reason was still willing to give me a chance, they’re likely to be obsessively searching for reasons not to see me again. The smallest things will be used to discount me as a partner. Any hint social awkwardness will be jumped to prove how there’s something wrong with me,  my worth dismissed in an instant with an awkward smile or a misplaced laugh, that will be it.

"Oh well, on the next one!"

Either you are more bitter than you realize or you are surrounded by VERY shallow people.  The entire world is not like that.  That I can most definitely assure you.
 
Honestly I have. I've become too isolated and my social skills have declined a bit as a result. No matter what I do I can't make anything happen. Hell, I don't even look as good as I did a few years ago. :(
 
TheRealCallie said:
ardour said:
If dating were this honest endeavour between mature individuals willing putting in equal effort, willing cut each other a little slack from time to time, it might be worth the inevitable disappointments.

But, no, it’s up to me carry the conversation while the person sits back and judges me, and homie's not willing to play that now.

The only thing I've learnt is that  man who isn’t perfectly 'together'  basically has no value to anyone. That attitude doesn’t change when people hit 30 and supposedly start looking for a companion. Goal posts merely shift to other indicators of status.   I know if someone were aware of my lack of dating history, and for some reason was still willing to give me a chance, they’re likely to be obsessively searching for reasons not to see me again. The smallest things will be used to discount me as a partner. Any hint social awkwardness will be jumped to prove how there’s something wrong with me,  my worth dismissed in an instant with an awkward smile or a misplaced laugh, that will be it.

"Oh well, on the next one!"

Either you are more bitter than you realize or you are surrounded by VERY shallow people.  The entire world is not like that.  That I can most definitely assure you.

I too am walking proof of the exact opposite, and it's rather sad how so many people are quick to stereotype the majority (who aren't that at all, as you say) based solely on the actions of the shitty minority and then convince themselves of it so strongly, they give up entirely.
But hey, their life, I guess. You can't stop someone from wallowing in misery. Just happy it's not me.
 
I'm more like 75%. I haven't totally given up, but I am the most confusing labyrinth a person will ever wander through just to find me if they're that interested in me. What I am, is very highly guarded. I'm an INFJ with some developed INTJ traits. I've specifically guarded myself from everything I've experienced that I want to avoid. Now, because of how guarded I am, I can work with things a bit...I can get out of my comfort zone a bit...but, if it seems like my partner wants me to LIVE outside of my comfort zone, I come to the conclusion that they're not interested in me, they're interested in what I can do for them either emotionally, financially, or physically. Once I come to that conclusion, because I'm an INFJ, I Door Slam them right out of the maze and alter my emotional and psychological location of that metaphorical maze.

I haven't given up on love, I've given up on trying to find love. If it actually finds me and wants me for me rather than wanting me for the reasons listed, I'll consider that. But I very strongly think that my time is honestly better spent elsewhere on less vast algorithms for better consistency ratios leading to an improvement of a quality of my life (without) love.
 
Enpatsu No Shakugan said:
Naizo said:
As far as me not wanting to be with anyone because everytime I hear about some boyfriend from a female friend of mine it's her going off about how he was a few minutes late, didn't tell her exactly where he was at all times, etc. Yea I've given up on that honeysuckle. I generally make a point to tell her that she makes me glad I'm single because of it, too.

That's not exactly love, regardless, in my opinion. It's slavery.

If your girl can't get on your phone and be chill if you looked at porn or some honeysuckle, then why are you with an Ice Queen?
If your girl didn't look at porn herself, why are you with an Ice Queen?

Sadly, it's not even a gender exclusive problem. There are lots of men equally as controlling to their women from every reason to a controlling personality to just excessive paranoia.

It makes me wonder how two people like that would work together. Would they compliment each other's paranoia or was it more about control all along, thus rendering it entirely incompatible?


My guess for why people actually wind up with someone like that is that the side to them that is that doesn't rear up until they're already in said relationship. Because I doubt most would want anything to do with someone who came across that controlling or distrustful from the get-go.

Oh nah, I don't mean to insinuate at all that it's only women that do that. That's just what surrounds me. I work with like 7+ women a day and like one to two other men a day. The women literally never stop talking. Ever. If they took a honeysuckle, you hear about it. If they got into an arguement, you hear about it. 

About the only thing you don't hear from them is if they have a problem with you. They'll wait and talk about it with everyone else once you're gone. They must really think people are stupid though, because if they talk honeysuckle about someone else to you so easily, why would you believe the lie that nobody talks honeysuckle about you yourself when your not there? 

I don't have issues with men or women, but I see the extremely cliche, stereotypical, and sexist things women are known for on a daily basis. Because they're real things that women do, minute by minute, day by day.

Women are generally fake as hell. Which isn't an insult. It's just a part of life. Men don't talk about their feelings, sure, but women talk about their feelings to anyone except the person they're feeling it about. Must be some survival instinct from long ago.

To balance things out here, so I'm not just talking honeysuckle about women. The men I work with are disgusting, can be extremely lazy, say some of the most racist and sexist honeysuckle you've ever heard just to entertain themselves during a work shift.

They're all hard working people, though. They're all just living their life the best way they know how. None of them are actually racist, none of them talk honeysuckle to hurt eachother, they're just imperfect humans being what they are.


Back on topic. I don't want a relationship because I like being alone. It annoys me when those around me talk about it like there's something wrong with me. There was a long period of time where I was extremely depressed and would try to hit on literally any woman I saw. I like to think I've come a very very far way from that shill of a human being, and to be talked down to because I have found some little peace in being single hurts my pride quite a bit.

Shouldn't every man have a family by 30? Except that's just not feasible. This isn't the 1800's where you got together young and had a family because you were likely to die young. Women don't need men to support them so they aren't as eager to find a husband either. A lot of men generally dislike how women act.

People are a lot pickier these days. Because they can be. I was with someone I enjoyed being with thoroughly, but it didn't work out. That ended in me becoming this walking pile of honeysuckle that cried about fifty million times a day. Feeling that weak is something I'd rather not ever do again. I still think about her literally every day of my life, whether its some advice I got from her that I hold onto as truth and live my life by, or just in passing thought or comical memory.

As far as I'm concerned, yea, I gave up on love. Because I had it, it was fine for awhile, but now I don't feel like having to put in the effort I did just to have it all fail over again because it wasn't enough, when I can just be content with what I have.

Though I'd really enjoy it if they would legalize recreational pot. That'd make my life pretty much complete. Work, pay bills, support my family, wind down with a joint, play some games/watch tv, go to bed, repeat til death.
Too bad. The only drugs legal around here are The Bible, Alcohol, being surprised when you see someone who isn't white, and doctor prescribed opioids.
 
Naizo said:
Too bad. The only drugs legal around here are The Bible, Alcohol, being surprised when you see someone who isn't white, and doctor prescribed opioids.

Ha... this thread need that.
 
A series of chemical reactions in the brain relating to either sexual intent, a need for familial closeness, or to protect that which you feel is important from that which you feel is dangerous.

So when you're pretty chill with what you have, you don't necessarily feel a need to seek things out.
 
I've pretty much given up. If anyone showed me an inkling of interest, my first thought would be 'what's wrong with them'.  I have absolutely nothing to offer a woman, except maybe company.  What woman would want to be with a man with no home, friends, family, retirement, assets, anything?  And that's the problem, I'd tell anyone interested in me to run away, there's nothing here for you because if I can't even love myself, how can I expect anyone else to?
 
Oh wow, I actually had forgotten that I made this topic, and I did not expect many answers either.  =/

Well... I'm not really a person that's good in giving advice, but for those who have and/or almost given up on love, I say just stay hopeful.
No one knows what's gonna happen in the future, so as long as we're alive, we still have a chance.
This reminds me of a user that used to be around here named Alienated, he's been gone for like 5 years because he found a girlfriend.

Anyway, just stay hopeful people and be safe!
By the way, I voted for the second option; I'm waiting for someone to like me.
 
I haven't give up. I've just accepted there's a 95% chance I'll never find someone. There's still the small 5% chance
 
Despite everything, I have a very positive outlook on future relationships. It may happen, or it may not. But I won't waste my energy feeling doomed.
 
I'm not taking this subject likely but i've given up on my love of tennis.Its a very complicated activity much like finding someone to love and hopefully gel with for a very long time.You've got to be equally matched or the games end up being very one sided because its always going to be competitive .

I did have a tennis buddy many years ago and we had some great games and because he always had a hangover and i'm not that great/inconsistent at it we always had some really close fun games.Anyway he fecked off ,sorry swearing but still bitter, because i wouldn't go to some party because of my social anxiety.That i miss too the chats down the pub afterwards again another essential to me being friends enough after a game to socialise.

I did play against the wife at it for a while but she couldnt seem to reach my standard and got bored so that didn't last long.l think the only way I'll play again because not joining a club ,all too upper class in my area , is by like before getting to know someone and they have any raquet sport as an interest.But that's not going to happen so I've given up on the love of it.
 
"I've sort of have, I'm just waiting for someone to make a move on me. =/"

I had my first "girlfriend" when she met me on OkCupid a year ago. I decided that it was not going to work out. I can wait.
 
I think I might look for someone later in life towards retirement. Things are pretty stable right now and I'm scared that a relationship could take that from me. I've made some good friends, but relationships are so fickle.

I dated someone who seemed like the package deal -- introduced me to his kids, we planned a future together, all that stuff. But, he wasn't honest about his feelings for me so it fell apart. All I got after hints about marriage was a text break-up. Can't really do anything to stop it from happening again except hope, and hope isn't much.

Things could have been much worse than they were, too.

I'm so tired of starting over that I just want to stop. I'll stick with the handful of people who've proven trustworthy.
 
I’ll take it a step further. I’ve given up on life altogether. I actively try to make my life terrible now. I figured that’s the way nature intended. Might as well help it out.
 
To me there's a fine line between "love" and "manipulation" and what seems like love might actually be nothing more than a tactic for them to benefit at my expense. Of course, it doesn't always go that way, but how can one tell if they are being genuine or just using you as a token? I can't read minds. I've heard so many horror stories about this so I'm simply not going to risk it. I'm single and I'm proud of it. I may feel lonely, but better that than stuck having arguments on a day to day basis and suffering through so much stress.
 

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