Would You Like To See This Category Removed?

[EveWasFramed]

I'd say the suggestions have been responded to.
The three current staff members see no reason to alter the rules currently in place.
There are plenty of other forums for "debate" so feel free to utilize those when you're in the mood to call people names I guess.

 

[Minus]

Insults and name calling is not part of a legitimate debate. It is the belief that if your logic doesn't sway them then it is time for personal attacks that makes the debate section substandard. It should be about fact and logic. Allowing name calling will not make it a "true debate section" and okaying an area for name calling is the last thing we need.

There are some people here who do an amazing job sticking to the facts and logic but i suspect that if they wish to find a true debate they will have to look for some place oriented more towards that type of thing because too many here seem to feel that debate is an anything goes, name calling, duke it out, type event.

 

[Smokey]

I think sections like this are important for getting a real grasp of who is who on the forum.

Some will excel others will get nasty. Some may even revert to their monkey ancestors and start throwing poo all over the place, but the point is, it gives us a good overview of the users.

I find that most people today can't debate to save their lives, they have been trained by the tv to demand respect or be offended.

And the ones who get emotional & combative, & have no debate skills, are the most fun to mess with.

I wouldn't know, because I'm a stand up member of the forum.

Uhuh, I am, yup, t's true.

 

[Sci-Fi]

I personally have this idea that a different moderating approach would be better. However i am not a moderator, and the mods have done this for years. That means that it's extremely likely that their approach is simply better, but i just don't know the thinking behind it yet.

What i'm thinking is that when a person displays what 9006 explained, that individual person should be "moderated." As in, a mod telling them they should calm down/stick to the subject, or wathever the problem is.

Anyway, i'd like to hear from a moderator perspective what they think about this.

Actually we do do that. It's when those who have been moderated don't stop that makes things worse.

No.

I'd like to see less moderation and more debate. Good threads get locked for stupid reasons.

Eve already answered your comment but to expand it it's those stupid things that get threads closed because when people are told to stop they don't. If they did threads wouldn't get closed for stupid reasons.

And uh, I think Minus said it best.

Insults and name calling is not part of a legitimate debate. It is the belief that if your logic doesn't sway them then it is time for personal attacks that makes the debate section substandard. It should be about fact and logic. Allowing name calling will not make it a "true debate section" and okaying an area for name calling is the last thing we need.

There are some people here who do an amazing job sticking to the facts and logic but i suspect that if they wish to find a true debate they will have to look for some place oriented more towards that type of thing because too many here seem to feel that debate is an anything goes, name calling, duke it out, type event.

So if no one wants to see a debate closed then DON'T resort to childish behaviour like name calling and insulting each other. Show respect for each other and everyone's opinions.

 

[EveWasFramed]

OR....it stays "as is" and people respect the rules that are currently in place or refrain from posting.
Feel free to PM Bjarne if anyone has any questions or would like to make suggestions. Otherwise, I think this topic is pretty much done.

And LK... You surprise me by you last post. You're one of the most thin-skinned members we have here (by your own admission). So you "signing off" on the name calling seems a bit ironic to me.

But, as I said, the current rules in place will stand. PM Bjarne for those of you who have more comments/suggestions you'd like to make on the subject.

Jesus Christ. I may be touchy at times Eve, but I don't get all bent out of shape if someone calls me an ******* or something. I'm not that sensitive. It is a rule and I must accept it. But I don't have to like it. If people want to argue over something, just let them duke it out. Don't lock threads and punish those who call someone else a dipshit or whatever.

That kind of thing just happens from time to time when most people argue. It's a fact of life. What is so terrible about someone calling you names? If a member is that sensitive, they have no place in that category. Myself being touchy is one of the main reasons that I don't spend much time there. I know what I'm going into if I enter.

If a member who is well aware of their sensitivity and how nasty and heated it gets there at times, and still decides to take part and is disrespected, it's not fair to the other members involved in a deep civil discussion when it's closed due to the sensitive member who knew **** well the way things go there sometimes, gets called a name, can't take it, gets upset, lashes out resulting in a potential thread closure.

All I have to say to this is that if you have to resort to calling someone "dipshit" "*******" and the like to get your point across, then one really doesn't HAVE any debating skills.

1de·bate
noun \di-ˈbāt, dē-\
: a discussion between people in which they express different opinions about something

Yeah...I don't see anything in the definition about name calling.
Just sayin'....

 

[LoneKiller]

Hi Eve.

Posting the definition of "Debate" in a provocative manner. Well played. It serves one purpose. To antagonize me. Don't try and say that it was just a joke. I've said my piece and have nothing more to say on this topic. I'm not going to allow myself to get pissed off and post something out of anger that I will regret later on when I calm down.

 

[ghbarnaby2]

lmao......

 

[EveWasFramed]

Hi Eve.

Posting the definition of "Debate" in a provocative manner. Well played. It serves one purpose. To antagonize me. Don't try and say that it was just a joke. I've said my piece and have nothing more to say on this topic. I'm not going to allow myself to get pissed off and post something out of anger that I will regret later on when I calm down.

It WASNT a joke. Not by any means. Why would you think it was meant as such? And why you'd think I'd say it was a joke is beyond me.
However, what it WASNT was an attempt to antagonize anyone.
Also, it kind of proves my point about not letting the debate forum off of its chain so to speak. People will often take things personally and let their feelings and emotions speak for them.
And since you are the OP and have "nothing more to say on the topic" I think it's time this thread was retired.