Wondering about guests who post once

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I have been reading some of these posts from guests and others - the ones who post one time to never be heard from again. I wonder if they get a chance to read the advice others offer them or what ever happens to them that they never post again. ???
 
Hi Searching,

I hate to think. God willing, anyone who comes here keeps coming back. I find that many threads get buried quickly and I try to go back and find them--times when I was responding and got distracted by new threads.

If people dont' come back, I hope they don't take it personally but realize that they are always welcome--except the trolls!
 
I was just surprised to see how many "Guests" posted threads and were urged to join but never did - and/or never posted again. But I never thought about it the way you put it - maybe it is a good thing that they aren't posting everyday. Tee hee hee..
 
Well some of our guests enjoy posting mean comments, and porno. So, I won't cry for them too hard. lol But the others--I hope they keep coming back. Those who are sincere.
 
Maybe the guests read the advise given in there posts, take the advise on board and leave. Maybe they keep coming back to the site, it's something we'll never know.
 
Most probably do get a chance to read the advice. In fact I would wager to estimate that we don't have nearly as many guests as it seems lol.
:cool:

Bad Joke:
Wouldn't it be intriguing to find out that it's all 1 person posting as guest? The proverbial psychology enthusiast perhaps? :p


Searching_4_My_Soul-Mate said:
I have been reading some of these posts from guests and others - the ones who post one time to never be heard from again.  I wonder if they get a chance to read the advice others offer them or what ever happens to them that they never post again.  ???
 
Indeed, why post and never even lurk for any response?

Just to vent, I suppose. And for attention, naturally.

Nevertheless, isn't it irksome to have one's time so flagrantly time wasted? After all, if they want attention to their sorrows, then how is it fair first to illicit response and then, quite literally, to pay no attention in kind? It all does seem rather cyberMunchausen. Or else, alas, some may actually be in such suffering that they are no longer sufficiently coherent and organized or just don't care to sustain any sensible dialogue.

But aside from the hit and run lamentations, what else is on offer, and of what quality is the discourse?

There is a lot of encounter group style SHARING, commiseration, consensual validation, even outright pity parties and at very worst, existential validation for irresponsible and self defeating behavior patterns.

Also, there is advice and encouragement, often somewhat simplistic and half cocked. And the approach to making friends and social integration tends to be arbitrary and procedural. There is no attempt first to understand what different people are missing, and then to strategize, any more than there might be cross questioning first to discover what people might have already tried, their experiences, the results they got, and why so.

So perhaps the hit and run posters just don't expect much more than to get anything off their chests, and that's why they don't linger thereafter.

Ny question is: Can't we all try and do any better?
 
Aaron,

Not everyone's here for a deep psychological analysis. I'm here just to offer a warm shoulder to cry on, and whatever wisdom I can muster.
 
Fair enough. But can we pick YOUR brain? I'd like to hear your story. You are clearly an intelligent person. How did YOU become lonely?
 
If people would think more along these lines then we wouldn't have the level of human suffering that we do. Unfortunately though, this isn't the case.

Can "we" try and do better? No, lol "we" obviously cannot. Most are uninterested in these deeper levels of understanding and resolution which again is exactly why they are in their current states of existance.

Catch22 I believe they call it.


AaronAgassi said:
Indeed, why post and never even lurk for any response?

Just to vent, I suppose. And for attention, naturally.

Nevertheless, isn't it irksome to have one's time so flagrantly time wasted? After all, if they want attention to their sorrows, then how is it fair first to illicit response and then, quite literally, to pay no attention in kind? It all does seem rather cyberMunchausen. Or else, alas, some may actually be in such suffering that they are no longer sufficiently coherent and organized or just don't care to sustain any sensible dialogue.

But aside from the hit and run lamentations, what else is on offer, and of what quality is the discourse?

There is a lot of encounter group style SHARING, commiseration, consensual validation, even outright pity parties and at very worst, existential validation for irresponsible and self defeating behavior patterns.

Also, there is advice and encouragement, often somewhat simplistic and half cocked. And the approach to making friends and social integration tends to be arbitrary and procedural. There is no attempt first to understand what different people are missing, and then to strategize, any more than there might be cross questioning first to discover what people might have already tried, their experiences, the results they got, and why so.

So perhaps the hit and run posters just don't expect much more than to get anything off their chests, and that's why they don't linger thereafter.

Ny question is: Can't we all try and do any better?
 
Loneliness is, indeed, terrible. So why doesn't the need to resolve loneliness motivate any more serious effort? I certainly wish that it might.

Indeed, I am convinced that the engagement even such an effort would already begin to foster deeper connection and improve emotional and intellectual stimulation thereby already beginning to alleviate loneliness.

Does anyone actually disagree?
 
The same reason why most human states of suffering aren't alleviated simply by the need of elimination itself. Most people remain in states of wait, avoidance, or continuation. It's the rare individual whom can arrive to the decision to alleviate any specific issue, comprehend how to go about it, AND have the tenacity to persist in the pursuit.

Especially since we're discussing the item of loneliness which occurs to be a condition suffered more by those people which are more introverted, passive, and socially "unique". These are all qualities which contradict the ability TO alleviate loneliness which in essence is the cause of the problem to begin with.



AaronAgassi said:
Loneliness is, indeed, terrible. So why doesn't the need to resolve loneliness motivate any more serious effort? I certainly wish that it might.

Indeed, I am convinced that the engagement even such an effort would already begin to foster deeper connection and improve emotional and intellectual stimulation thereby already beginning to alleviate loneliness.

Does anyone actually disagree?
 
Of course, conditions of ambivalence subverting the resolve to end loneliness can only be dealt with on their psychological level, one way or another. But is such the only sort of loneliness? Indeed, dare may I ask, exactly what does it mean to be socially "unique" in scare-quotes?
 
AaronAgassi said:
But is such the only sort of loneliness? Indeed, dare may I ask, exactly what does it mean to be socially "unique" in scare-quotes?

The most common sort that people who come here have, probably. They don't have anyone they can relate to, meaning there is no obstalce in their way other than simply getting the guts to get out there and find someone.

What Vortex mean with "unique" is that the people who come here most often have some sort of overblown dilemma in their heads which deny them to live a normal life. A "normal" person sure can have the same and even more dilemmas to deal with, daily, but not as strong as the "unique". Since it's increasingly becoming more "normal" to be depressed and lonely how can we say that anyone here are anything but just that, though?
 
Robin, speaking as just such an individual myself, it would seem, I must say that your psychiatric Post Modern dismissal of Ontology is persistent and consistent! Nevertheless, I insist at least upon the possibility that some dilemmas, even however Existential, nevertheless do actually occur in the outside world. But I cannot force anyone to explore that approach.
 
AaronAgassi said:
Robin, speaking as just such an individual myself, it would seem, I must say that your psychiatric Post Modern dismissal of Ontology is persistent and consistent!

It is that psychiatry which has helped me get 20+ people from a certain suicide to get back up on their feet foy r good, online as much as in real life, since i was as young 13 years old! How many people have YOU helped survive deep depression the last seven years, hmm?

"Something, something, [english word that non-native english people possibly can't understand], something something, i am only here to help people in a way that i haven't figured out yet, which just HAS to be more helpful than the ways that You and everyone else here are trying that have made these success stories a reality! And since it's so much more important to figure this new, better way of treating people out, i give myself full freedom to do whatever the heck i want, anywhere, which can help me find the answer to my questions! Even if it means making people angry, sad and feel afraid of coming to the only place that most of them feel welcome to!"- Sounds familiar? Yep! It's Aaron again!
 
To the original question posed, I think that many people who feel blue or alone are in a very temporary state. They may post once and within a short while they are feeling good again. Conversly some people may be terrified that they may be rejected and feel even more alone. I think that the fear of rejection may be why some guest choose to be mean and cynical. I was suprised to see how many guest would come and go when I first visited this site at around midnight. I searched around a while before deciding to post and I noticed that people would come and go and never post at all. It is those people I wonder about, are they here accidentaly or are just to afraid to take a chance to make a friend they desperatly need.
 
Robin, you hardly need persuade me of the value of psychotherapy. That is not the question. Rather, it is your denial off the pertinence or efficacy of anything other than psychotherapy, which you do not even seem willing to notice!

Want2bhapy, yes, that might explain it.
 

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