I find this a bit disturbing

[cumulus.james]

Liberating for young gay boys or sexualization of children?

 

[Solitary man]

I'm not so sure about the blue and white striped shirt with the yellow bag. Disturbing? No. The colour scheme just doesn't work.

 

[cumulus.james]

You don't agree those images are overtly sexual? And deliberatly so?

 

[sothatwasmylife]

It's pretty messed up man think Solitary man was being facetious

 

[cumulus.james]

It's pretty messed up man

How so? good that the kid is allowed to be himself, bad that it displasy a kid as a sexual object?

 

[sothatwasmylife]

So...'messed up' just about covers it then

 

[Regumika]

All the homosexual, bi sexual, transgender things were looked down upon until recently.

I'll agree that focusing on sex is probably not the best way to "advertise" yourself but there isn't anything wrong with wanting to be sexy (good looking).

Oh, and why do we claim "age is just a number" when deep down we think (as long as you're over 18)? 14 is legal in Japan. When done right (without abuse or personal gain/satisfaction) age really doesn't matter. Society shuns on age just like all the above were shunned.

 

[Solitary man]

You don't agree those images are overtly sexual? And deliberatly so?

Yep, and that's America. I'm assuming those images were produced in the US.

It's pretty messed up man think Solitary man was being facetious

I was.

 

[sothatwasmylife]

You don't agree those images are overtly sexual? And deliberatly so?

Yep, and that's America. I'm assuming those images were produced in the US.

It's pretty messed up man think Solitary man was being facetious

I was.

And you were right man...those outfits are horrendous

 

[cumulus.james]

All the homosexual, bi sexual, transgender things were looked down upon until recently.

I'll agree that focusing on sex is probably not the best way to "advertise" yourself but there isn't anything wrong with wanting to be sexy (good looking).

Oh, and why do we claim "age is just a number" when deep down we think (as long as you're over 18)? 14 is legal in Japan. When done right (without abuse or personal gain/satisfaction) age really doesn't matter. Society shuns on age just like all the above were shunned.

The image confuses the hell out of me. I was having sex with adults at that age and had a very similar body shape. Times were also homophobic and hypermasculine, I was effemenate and had an urge to gender bend like that. There is a mixture of confusion and extreme jelousy when I see that picture.

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You don't agree those images are overtly sexual? And deliberatly so?

Yep, and that's America. I'm assuming those images were produced in the US.

It's pretty messed up man think Solitary man was being facetious

I was.

In America they have such obscure laws that any of us looking at that could be charged with veiwing child pornography.

 

[Alma lost her spoon]

Outfits aside.

When young girls are used in a similar fashion(& they are all the bloody time!) nobody really bats an eyelid anymore, are we so desenitised to seeing young females in this manner that it only registers when the subject is a young male?

*femminist rant complete, as you were.

 

[ringwood]

I don't see this as being overtly sexual at all. It reminds me of the fashion style of US figure skater, Johnny Weir (who may or may not be gay, he has never disclosed either way). I don't see anything wrong with it at all, just another choice of clothing for fashion conscious young men. What exactly do you find sexual about it? I mean, the guy is not bent over a chair ass-up or anything...I don't understand your point of view, explain please.

 

[TheRealCallie]

In America they have such obscure laws that any of us looking at that could be charged with veiwing child pornography.

No one would be charged with viewing child pornography if they look at that image.
It is not disturbing or sexual, IMO. It's just "different," which makes it appear to be that. As Alma said, most people wouldn't bat an eye if it was a girl.

 

[cumulus.james]

Outfits aside.

When young girls are used in a similar fashion(& they are all the bloody time!) nobody really bats an eyelid anymore, are we so desenitised to seeing young females in this manner that it only registers when the subject is a young male?

*femminist rant complete, as you were.

If i saw a similar thing of young females I would have made the same post, and I am very definately gay.

The thing of it is people are being driven out of society left right and centre for a mere thought of a young teenager being sexual, whilst all the while the media is bombarding sociatey with sexualized images of youths.

I remeber East17 and Take that, they were both portrayed as boys and marketed as sexual. I think Robbie Williams was 16 when they had him in fetishistic leathers in one video.

Justin Bieber looked 12 when he appeard. On the UK TV show The Wright Stuff you had a 40 year old women call up and say "ohh, hes lovely I just want to snog him".

So it is wrong, crimnal and perverted to view anyone under 18 as sexual, but everything is done to promote an idead of under 18's being sexual.

And like I said, as someone who was having sex with adults at that age I am left really not knowing how to feel about my own memories or experiances even.

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In America they have such obscure laws that any of us looking at that could be charged with veiwing child pornography.

No one would be charged with viewing child pornography if they look at that image.
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They can in the US I was just watching a video about it. A clothed child if in an image deemed sexual can be considered child pornography.

It's not likely anyone would. But US laws do allow it.

 

[TheRealCallie]

They can in the US I was just watching a video about it. A clothed child if in an image deemed sexual can be considered child pornography.

It's not likely anyone would. But US laws do allow it.

I'm IN the US and I know a bit of what is deemed child pornography and what isn't. That image is NOT sexual, therefore, no one would get charged for looking at it.
If YOU find it sexual, maybe you should take a better look at yourself and stop thinking every young boy is going to go down the same road you went down. I don't mean that offensively, not in any way, because no one should go through what you went through. But, not everyone will and I don't think you can accept that.

 

[Nicolelt]

They can in the US I was just watching a video about it. A clothed child if in an image deemed sexual can be considered child pornography.

It's not likely anyone would. But US laws do allow it.

I'm IN the US and I know a bit of what is deemed child pornography and what isn't. That image is NOT sexual, therefore, no one would get charged for looking at it.
If YOU find it sexual, maybe you should take a better look at yourself and stop thinking every young boy is going to go down the same road you went down. I don't mean that offensively, not in any way, because no one should go through what you went through. But, not everyone will and I don't think you can accept that.

These photos would not be considered child porn in the US. I have a friend who is a photographer, and it looks like poses she has kids do to show their personality.

Back to the OP. How is this disturbing? I think it is a beautiful thing for someone to be proud of who they are and post it.

 

[Sci-Fi]

I don't know who'd want to wear some of those clothes...as for sexuality, the boy is posing in ways girls are typically posed in. And on the other end of this since people want to say how when women are in poses like that no one bats an eye. When women are posing in "typical" male poses in a "sexual/suggestive" way people do make comments on it. Like if you see a woman with a cigar hanging out of her mouth with her legs spread open people do bat an eye at it. So lets not make this into a one sided feminist rant without viewing the other side.

 

[cumulus.james]

I don't know who'd want to wear some of those clothes...as for sexuality, the boy is posing in ways girls are typically posed in. And on the other end of this since people want to say how when women are in poses like that no one bats an eye. When women are posing in "typical" male poses in a "sexual/suggestive" way people do make comments on it. Like if you see a woman with a cigar hanging out of her mouth with her legs spread open people do bat an eye at it. So lets not make this into a one sided feminist rant without viewing the other side.

The question is weather there is an ongoing sexualization of children being driven by the media. Justin Beiber looked about 12 when he launched.

I also recall take that being presented as "boys" and dressed up in gay leathers when I was a kid, they were then taken around the gay clubs first, then around schools. They used to market the same boy bands to gay men first, then to little girls.

 

[Nicolelt]

I don't know who'd want to wear some of those clothes...as for sexuality, the boy is posing in ways girls are typically posed in. And on the other end of this since people want to say how when women are in poses like that no one bats an eye. When women are posing in "typical" male poses in a "sexual/suggestive" way people do make comments on it. Like if you see a woman with a cigar hanging out of her mouth with her legs spread open people do bat an eye at it. So lets not make this into a one sided feminist rant without viewing the other side.

The question is weather there is an ongoing sexualization of children being driven by the media. Justin Beiber looked about 12 when he launched.

I also recall take that being presented as "boys" and dressed up in gay leathers when I was a kid, they were then taken around the gay clubs first, then around schools. They used to market the same boy bands to gay men first, then to little girls.

I mean, just because what someone wears something that is "weird" to you or not in the norm, doesn't make it wrong. I teach at a very rural school and there is a student that is gay and he wears make-up and wear clothing that would not be in the "cultural norm" in the area (as in cowboy boots and flannels lol). But I tell my kids, there is nothing wrong with him, if he wants to wear that and it's school appropriate, go ahead. Be yourself, nothing wrong with that.

 

[TheRealCallie]

I mean, just because what someone wears something that is "weird" to you or not in the norm, doesn't make it wrong. I teach at a very rural school and there is a student that is gay and he wears make-up and wear clothing that would not be in the "cultural norm" in the area (as in cowboy boots and flannels lol). But I tell my kids, there is nothing wrong with him, if he wants to wear that and it's school appropriate, go ahead. Be yourself, nothing wrong with that.

I agree. That boy has his own style and there is NOTHING wrong with that. Would I wear it, no, but that's not my style. He is free to wear what he wants and he doesn't deserve to be judged for that. That boy is awesome for doing as he feels comfortable and not caring what others think. Good for him. More people should be like that boy in the image.