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Locke said:
EveWasFramed said:
Just out of curiosity, doesn't anyone know the moniker they use for a male who fits that description?

Dog, maybe? Cradle robber? Something even more offensive? *shrugs*

Stereotype names probably aren't fun for some men either.

Not to get off topic, but just wondering, what does it mean when a man calls a woman a dog? There have been groups of guys who walk past me and laugh at me with each other, saying "She's a dog" and "What a dog!"; and also guys who drive past and woof at me from their windows. Not like a cat call, but actually barking. I know it's derogatory but I've never known what it means.
 
Solivagant said:
Not to get off topic, but just wondering, what does it mean when a man calls a woman a dog? There have been groups of guys who walk past me and laugh at me with each other, saying "She's a dog" and "What a dog!"; and also guys who drive past and woof at me from their windows. Not like a cat call, but actually barking. I know it's derogatory but I've never known what it means.

It means you should punch them in the face. :club:

Seriously, who does that? I've seen some guys do that at my college, and I don't understand it. It's pathetic.
 
Interesting how Sci-Fi keeps teaching slang I didn't knew tonight :D
 
I'm a plethora of knowledge but it's time for me to go to bed. :p
 
Locke said:
Who is it that expects this from you? If there is any expectation from people, it should be that you find a way to be happy, either by getting what you want or accepting your circumstances.

Men considered unattractive for that long are just expected to accept their circumstances, not least to save the poor women around them from unwanted attention.

Their genes are earmarked for extinction, like the worker bees in the hive... so it's like how dare they have an uppity expectation for something more.
 
rdor said:
Locke said:
Who is it that expects this from you? If there is any expectation from people, it should be that you find a way to be happy, either by getting what you want or accepting your circumstances.

Men considered unattractive for that long are just expected to accept their circumstances, not least to save the poor women around them from unwanted attention.

Our genes are earmarked for extinction, we're like the worker bees in the hive... so it's like how dare they have an uppity expectation for something more.

It's not that I'm considered physically unattractive, or have always been, but that my circumstances and my social skills are such that I just don't attract women.

My body is a mess right now, but even when I was skinny and in shape, I didn't know how to get girls. Women would make googley eyes at me, and I'd be so socially backward that they would instantly friend-zone me.
 
LeaningIntoTheMuse said:
It's not that I'm considered physically unattractive, or have always been, but that my circumstances and my social skills are such that I just don't attract women.

My body is a mess right now, but even when I was skinny and in shape, I didn't know how to get girls. Women would make googley eyes at me, and I'd be so socially backward that they would instantly friend-zone me.

You didn't hit the right buttons muse, weren't dominant and 'interesting' enough etc. Perhaps the problem wasn't awkwardness, maybe subconsciously you were repulsed at the idea of being that fake and manipulative.
 
****! This thread blew up overnight.


rdor said:
Their genes are earmarked for extinction, like the worker bees in the hive... so it's like how dare they have an uppity expectation for something more.

I refuse to be content with something like that, just because of genetics (this isn't an attacking you at all rdor). I couldn't let that stop me from trying to find someone who cares about me and wants to be intimate. There's nothing wrong with wanting more, especially if its an important part of being human.
 
rdor said:
Locke said:
Who is it that expects this from you? If there is any expectation from people, it should be that you find a way to be happy, either by getting what you want or accepting your circumstances.

Men considered unattractive for that long are just expected to accept their circumstances, not least to save the poor women around them from unwanted attention.

Their genes are earmarked for extinction, like the worker bees in the hive... so it's like how dare they have an uppity expectation for something more.

Right......because only attractive people are in relationships. :club:

Since you chose to ignore half my post that you quoted, I'll say it again: Who gives a **** about expectations from other people! No ones genes are being earmarked for extinction, that's ridiculous! If you're unhappy because you give in to expectations, that is your choice. The world is full of unattractive people in relationships. If trying to find someone is too difficult then accept that you no longer want to try, and learn to be happy alone.

If you can't take responsibility for your circumstances, take responsibility for your own happiness.
 
Yes. This. 37 years old, still a virgin .. haven't even held hands, or had a first kiss. To say it's frustrating is an understatement! And that a lot of people just seem to consider it something to giggle at only makes the frustration worse. Or the stupid comment to go and pay for it, which always shows to me that the person making the comment cares little about the situation, or me. They sure don't know me very well, if they think that that suggestion is going to be accepted. I want sex to be an emotional experience, not just physical. With a girl that, at the very least, cares. And hopefully, with a girl that I can have a conversation with too. Masturbation isn't satisfying anymore. Not even if I watch porn at the same time. I might be able to see it. And hear it. But I have no experience of it. It makes me feel like I'm isolated from it. Kept at a distance. It increases the loneliness, really.

It's difficult to explain, I know. Most people have had sex, so they don't really understand what it's like to not be able to find someone. It's all a bit funny. A smirk and nudge and a giggle. But it's far from funny when your the one who's frustrated. When your the one who just wants to find a chance ....
 
It's difficult even when you have had it. I was married for almost seven years so it was never an issue for a few years and my life was much easier then, not having to worry about finding someone or finding love.

Now it's going on 8 months since I last had sex with someone and no matter how many times you've had it just feeling like you lost the ability to attract a mate makes you feel like a virgin all over again.

I can relate to what it feels like to no be able to find someone. My work schedule makes it impossible to see my friends or even keep up with basic chores, let alone pursue any other sort of relationships.

It sucks not being one of the more desirable people and being socially awkward.

If you're patient you could try online dating. You are bound to go on a lot of awkward dates that lead nowhere but sometimes you can be pleasantly surprised.


rdor said:
Locke said:
Who is it that expects this from you? If there is any expectation from people, it should be that you find a way to be happy, either by getting what you want or accepting your circumstances.

Men considered unattractive for that long are just expected to accept their circumstances, not least to save the poor women around them from unwanted attention.

Their genes are earmarked for extinction, like the worker bees in the hive... so it's like how dare they have an uppity expectation for something more.

The whole thing about genes being earmarked for extinction is absurd. The men who have the most kids are usually lowlife drug dealers and thugs who live in the projects. If mating was based on evolutionary theory then they would be the one who had genes earmarked for extinction.

Getting laid is not easy for the majority of men. If it was there wouldn't be so many people making a fortune out of selling pick-up artist books.
 
theglasscell said:
It's difficult even when you have had it. I was married for almost seven years so it was never an issue for a few years and my life was much easier then, not having to worry about finding someone or finding love.

Now it's going on 8 months since I last had sex with someone and no matter how many times you've had it just feeling like you lost the ability to attract a mate makes you feel like a virgin all over again.

I can relate to what it feels like to no be able to find someone. My work schedule makes it impossible to see my friends or even keep up with basic chores, let alone pursue any other sort of relationships.

It sucks not being one of the more desirable people and being socially awkward.

If you're patient you could try online dating. You are bound to go on a lot of awkward dates that lead nowhere but sometimes you can be pleasantly surprised.


rdor said:
Locke said:
Who is it that expects this from you? If there is any expectation from people, it should be that you find a way to be happy, either by getting what you want or accepting your circumstances.

Men considered unattractive for that long are just expected to accept their circumstances, not least to save the poor women around them from unwanted attention.

Their genes are earmarked for extinction, like the worker bees in the hive... so it's like how dare they have an uppity expectation for something more.

The whole thing about genes being earmarked for extinction is absurd. The men who have the most kids are usually lowlife drug dealers and thugs who live in the projects. If mating was based on evolutionary theory then they would be the one who had genes earmarked for extinction.

Getting laid is not easy for the majority of men. If it was there wouldn't be so many people making a fortune out of selling pick-up artist books.



Oh honeysuckle lol. That spoke right to me.
 
Reminds me of that movie with the smart people who don't reproduce, and the dumb stupid people who have 10 kids and 3 baby daddies.

Yes, it was a comedy, but it hits a little too close to reality for me. I don't think it's funny, same as I don't find the 40 year old virgin funny. People who are actually in these situations become depressed, they don't laugh it off.
 
Re those that sire the most children: It's not just drug dealers & Tupac-clones, but also fundamentalists, particularly hard-core Christians. An extreme example is the Duggar family...it's like weaponized demographics. Breed lots, keep the kids home-schooled & immersed in the right-wing Christian subculture, then when they're old enough send them off to someplace like Liberty University, where they can enhance their fanaticism & prepare for careers in politics.

Re that movie: It was titled Idiocracy if I'm not mistaken. I haven't seen it. Am already aware of the dumbing down of the United States that was an inevitable consequence of overpopulation & technology-driven shrinking of attention spans, thank you.

As for the rest...I am no virgin but I've been alone for so long, I might as well be one again. I don't normally condone breaking the law but...some of us seriously need an evening with top-drawer escorts, me included. If one of you lived near me & I could afford it, I'd hire a couple for both of us!
 
rdor said:
You didn't hit the right buttons muse, weren't dominant and 'interesting' enough etc. Perhaps the problem wasn't awkwardness, maybe subconsciously you were repulsed at the idea of being that fake and manipulative.

Or maybe the fact that perhaps he thought (like many other people, including myself) that someone would - or could - just never be interested in him. There's not always a hidden message in something. Plain, flat-out just never thought it could happen.
 
It's hard to get a read on how people feel about you sometimes.

There is this girl in my group of friends and for literally four whole months every time I'd see her she'd act all put off when I said hi or tried to talk to her and it seemed like she'd always ignore me.

Today I saw her and made a point to not even look in her direction and then she came up to me and we had this awesome conversation and she was really sweet just out of nowhere. I don't even know why. I wasn't expecting that, but it made me really happy.

Sometimes you assume people dislike you, but it could be something else altogether. Nobody is a mind reader.
 
MTrip said:
Re those that sire the most children: It's not just drug dealers & Tupac-clones, but also fundamentalists, particularly hard-core Christians. An extreme example is the Duggar family...it's like weaponized demographics. Breed lots, keep the kids home-schooled & immersed in the right-wing Christian subculture, then when they're old enough send them off to someplace like Liberty University, where they can enhance their fanaticism & prepare for careers in politics.

Re that movie: It was titled Idiocracy if I'm not mistaken. I haven't seen it. Am already aware of the dumbing down of the United States that was an inevitable consequence of overpopulation & technology-driven shrinking of attention spans, thank you.

As for the rest...I am no virgin but I've been alone for so long, I might as well be one again. I don't normally condone breaking the law but...some of us seriously need an evening with top-drawer escorts, me included. If one of you lived near me & I could afford it, I'd hire a couple for both of us!

Drug dealer are some of the most manipulative people on the planet. They take advantage of the people who are desperate and/or want something in particular
 
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