What do you think about suicide?

[Arcane]

I failed because I forgot to lock my door or go somewhere where no one would find me..I don't know if i'm glad or not that I wasn't sucessful...it makes me feel stupid that I failed that but...at least I won't do it again?

/yeah, i couldn't even do that right. ha

Arcane I guess you tried to kill yourself before?

Or perhaps you only failed at that because there was still some sliver of you trying to hold on to life. Who knows? I certainly don't, and I'm guessing you don't either. Good thing is that you'll be able to find the answer to that by just living life.

No matter how suicidal someone feels, as long as you never actually attempt to kill yourself, you're probably still holding on to something. And for those who have attempted it and failed, perhaps there's a reason as to why it failed. I like to think it signifies at least something - ...
I think I should stop writing here.. doesn't feel right discussing this particular topic in such great detail. Let me know if this goes too far, I'll delete it if that's the case.

 

[Vagrant Legacy]

You say you "forgot" to lock your door. I say you may have wanted to keep the option open of someone finding you. Perhaps even for someone to just realize how messed up you're feeling if you've tried taking that final step. Perhaps you just wanted the attention. I can't judge, since I don't know any details, but I stand by what I said before - I like to believe there's a reason why it failed.

Also, you might want to start posting what you have to say BENEATH other quoted posts - if you do that, people will not have such a difficult time trying to find out who said what and in what order

 

[SophiaGrace]

There's no reason or rhyme to anything. It was an uncompleted suicide. She makes her own meaning...

 

[IgnoredOne]

*hugs* Please don't.

 

[TropicalStarfish]

I recall a story my friend's mother told me.

I know it involved an alcoholic and driving. I don't recall who was doing the drinking and driving, but suffice to say this particular man got involved in a car accident. He must not have been considered at fault for the accident because he ended up completely disabled.

He could not take care of himself or walk or do any normal things and was put into a home.

The most interesting part is, he could not kill himself.

Every time people would come to visit him, all he could do was beg to killed. I'm not even sure if he could speak that well.

Just imagine being trapped in a shell of a lifeless worthless body. A pile of useless flesh. Your only enemy time. Knowing you will amount to nothing but a pair of holes for food to go in and out of till the day you die. Not even being able to kill yourself if you wanted to.

I see suicide as not much different than death itself. We all must die.

When you are old and have lived a lot of life and your body and mind are decaying, you die. If you take a risk too bold and do not survive the outcome, you die. If by some horrible chance you fall victim to unfortunate circumstances, you die. If your inner light, your very soul, falls victim to such great darkness that you walk over the final line, you too, die.

There are many ways to come to death. That is the journey of life.

I'll spare any comments on opinion of suicide, because it's all relative.

However, for anyone "thinking" about committing suicide, be grateful you at least have the opportunity. There are many people trapped on this earth that deserve a righteous and honorable putting down, but because of the views of the majority, it does not happen so.

Many great minds and thinkers of our history have chosen self termination.

The one that comes to mind, whom I consider quite fortunate, is Sigmund Freud. Who after living a lot of life, self terminated with a fatal injection of morphine. A very fortunate soul indeed.

Some deaths are quick and painless it seems, while others in the case of the story above, take many many years to finally draw out.

 

[xrchz]

I see suicide as not much different than death itself. We all must die.

Wait, what? Why must we all die?

 

[annik]

I see suicide as not much different than death itself. We all must die.

Wait, what? Why must we all die?

Not really helpful. We all die everyone knows this its a fact.

 

[Arcane]

You say you "forgot" to lock your door. I say you may have wanted to keep the option open of someone finding you. Perhaps even for someone to just realize how messed up you're feeling if you've tried taking that final step. Perhaps you just wanted the attention. I can't judge, since I don't know any details, but I stand by what I said before - I like to believe there's a reason why it failed.

Also, you might want to start posting what you have to say BENEATH other quoted posts - if you do that, people will not have such a difficult time trying to find out who said what and in what order

sorry i didn't know this is the only forum i post on..:\ thanks for the tip though..

believe it or not when i want attention i blatently ask for it...beg for it sometimes. i'm past the age of enjoying dramatics like that..and i feel pretty attacked with how you're coming at me as if I would tell lies to people I don't know and who don't know me...my door wasn't locked because for it to be "locked" i would have to go take a security device out of my living room to use on my door.....there are no locks on the doors ..for me anyway

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You say you "forgot" to lock your door. I say you may have wanted to keep the option open of someone finding you. Perhaps even for someone to just realize how messed up you're feeling if you've tried taking that final step. Perhaps you just wanted the attention. I can't judge, since I don't know any details, but I stand by what I said before - I like to believe there's a reason why it failed.

Also, you might want to start posting what you have to say BENEATH other quoted posts - if you do that, people will not have such a difficult time trying to find out who said what and in what order

sorry i didn't know this is the only forum i post on..:\ thanks for the tip though..

believe it or not when i want attention i blatently ask for it...beg for it sometimes. i'm past the age of enjoying dramatics like that..and i feel pretty attacked with how you're coming at me as if I would tell lies to people I don't know and who don't know me...my door wasn't locked because for it to be "locked" i would have to go take a security device out of my living room to use on my door.....there are no locks on the doors ..for me anyway

i did wanna die at the time it was a few years ago and it wasn't a planned out event...it happened because i was desperate and in pain..and panicking...if i had planned it out i could see where i would have some room to not make errors so i guess it was pretty good after all HA.

 

[xrchz]

Wait, what? Why must we all die?

Not really helpful. We all die everyone knows this its a fact.

That doesn't answer my question, and it's a bit mean because I meant it seriously. I don't want to die, so I'm interested in any supposed reasons why I would have to. Many "facts" turn out not to be true, like "the world is flat", "negative numbers don't have square roots", "you can't turn lead into gold", "plastic is non-recyclable", "cancer is a terminal disease", ...

 

[annik]

Wait, what? Why must we all die?

Not really helpful. We all die everyone knows this its a fact.

That doesn't answer my question, and it's a bit mean because I meant it seriously. I don't want to die, so I'm interested in any supposed reasons why I would have to. Many "facts" turn out not to be true, like "the world is flat", "negative numbers don't have square roots", "you can't turn lead into gold", "plastic is non-recyclable", "cancer is a terminal disease", ...

Hmm well it sounded like more of a flippant / joke comment.

Well I think what you need to do is come to terms with the fact everyone does and you will have to too at some point. Because living things die thats how it works. Sorry and everything but its reality.

 

[Vagrant Legacy]

and i feel pretty attacked with how you're coming at me as if I would tell lies to people I don't know and who don't know me...

Well, you don't have to feel attacked, as I didn't attack you. I also never implied you lie about anything. You might want to re-read the part where I said that I can't judge, as I don't know the details. I'm just stating that there was more than just one possibility to this entire thing.

 

[Arcane]

I guess I am too negative. I figured it was implied by your tone and use of quotation marks...I could have read it wrong.

 

[Vagrant Legacy]

I'm just tired. That might cause my tone to appear more grave than normal.

 

[Bluey]

yeah and they make you feel like ,......somehow worse if you don't sucesfully commit this "crime" While i was in the hosiptal I wasn't allowed to be out of anyones site...then as soon as I was well enough I was escorted, in handcuffs, to a police car then to either jail or the crazy bin. I chose the latter. but...yeah. bullshit imo

There's a law against suicide though, isn't it technically a crime?

Anyway my views are quite personal however after having a friend go through the pain of loosing her brother I now have a much more vivid understanding of what its like from the other side.

Of all the stupid laws we have this has to be they most stupid of them all.
As if anyone is bothered about the law when there feeling that bad.
Arcane, So glad your not feeling that low now.

I couldn't take anymore. I wanted to die. It was at that lowest point that something spoke to me and I realized, it wasn't my body that needed to die, it was my mentality. It was the way I was handeling the problems in my life. As long as I handled them in the same way, I would continue to live in misery. I was so used to holding onto all the crap that made me hurt.

Yes, as long as you keep doing the same things then the same things well happen.
I agree with this you have to change the way you think about things and approach them.

Get some help and talk to the right ppl.
Start sharing your feelings with someone you trust.

 

[xrchz]

Hmm well it sounded like more of a flippant / joke comment.

Well I think what you need to do is come to terms with the fact everyone does and you will have to too at some point. Because living things die thats how it works. Sorry and everything but its reality.

I'm not sure the best way to respond to this. I could turn the argument around on you and say (for the sake of argument, and for example) English people are mean and that's the way the world works. Sorry if you were looking for kindness here but you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that they're all mean and that's the reality. (Can you see how there's no actual argument there, it's just repeated assertion?)

 

[iris]

I already tried to kill myself once. My father found me in the morning and called 911. Well, I was psychotic back then. But I think one day I'm going to try it again, because I don't have any life left inside me. How can I live like this? Either way, I won't survive. Suicide is the best way out.

And I don't believe there's any life after death. Those are just myths, fragments of human imagination.

 

[lonelyfairy]

Thank you all about your messages...

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If you think you are struggling here and need someone to talk to then your moor then welcome to PM me.
I cant promise I well get strait back as I may be a sleep or busy. But I well reply as soon as I can to you.

Thank you... I will PM you, if I need someone to talk to... Maybe I need, always so lonely. ;(

I am afraid to post my opinion on this thread but I want to say that I care about you Lonelyfairy.

Aw, thank you...

That person you look at in the mirror every morning, she's a good person and she needs you right now. Your in a bad place inside your head. There comes a time when the pain seems much greater than the reasons to live. If you think about it, I bet you will find you really don't want to die, you just want the pain to stop. There are ways to make the pain stop. Killing your body is only one of them. Try the others first. Happiness is not beyond you. You have to figure out a way to be happy. Live your life and if it comes down to it, fresia everyone and everything that tries to bring you down. Close your eyes, feel the pain and just let go....be free.

This made me think about suicide a little bit different way, thank you very much!

But... Yes, I want to feel free, but I can't, I try to think positively, but now it's so so so hard, so much crying all the time, feeling worthless and like a ghost, like I am nothing...

*hugs* Please don't.

Why not? ;(

 

[Nolife Princess]

I am Bipolar, and suffer BPD- so I think of it every single day ( on my lows) I take meds to help me, however it still does not change my shitty life, or shitty circumstances.. I have tried many things to busy myself as not to 'think' too much. but yes I do think about if I were not successful at it, I would end up a vegetable and even more miserable than I already am.

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Arcane--- that picture is exactly how I feel every single day!

 

[annik]

Hmm well it sounded like more of a flippant / joke comment.

Well I think what you need to do is come to terms with the fact everyone does and you will have to too at some point. Because living things die thats how it works. Sorry and everything but its reality.

I'm not sure the best way to respond to this. I could turn the argument around on you and say (for the sake of argument, and for example) English people are mean and that's the way the world works. Sorry if you were looking for kindness here but you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that they're all mean and that's the reality. (Can you see how there's no actual argument there, it's just repeated assertion?)

No all English people are mean is opinion. People die is fact. I will not be carrying this on just so you know. I honestly don't understand what you think the alternative is. Ageing and dying is an inevitability in the human being. It is how it is.

Had the initial comment not come across to me as flippant in what is a serious thread I wouldn't have replied at all. I really wish I hadn't because I will not be drawn into a circular conversation about this and will not be made to be the bad guy for pointing out there is no way to cheat death.

 

[xrchz]

No all English people are mean is opinion. People die is fact. I will not be carrying this on just so you know. I honestly don't understand what you think the alternative is. Ageing and dying is an inevitability in the human being. It is how it is.

Had the initial comment not come across to me as flippant in what is a serious thread I wouldn't have replied at all. I really wish I hadn't because I will not be drawn into a circular conversation about this and will not be made to be the bad guy for pointing out there is no way to cheat death.

It's OK I don't mind if you don't want to continue this discussion, and I don't feel that I need to convince you. But I do just want to reply to the above. You said you don't understand what I think the alternative is. Well, the alternative to dying is living. It is easy to die - there are many ways it can happen. But that does not make dying inevitable. I also don't want to be made the bad guy by not believing, like you, that death is inescapable. So let's just leave it as a difference in our beliefs.