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losing virginity with an escort?
(Yesterday, 01:00 PM)ardour Wrote: When someone's visibly bored after literally a few seconds of conversation, 'growing on them' isn't not an option. The women we CAN get to know gradually aren't single or an appropriate age.

I do so wish you wouldn't change what you post so much.  I'm replying like you didn't. 
I'm not saying what you said isn't a possibility, but don't you think it might also be a possibility that what you are seeing (with their tones and mannerisms and whatnot) could be a misinterpretation by you? 
I mean, you've said it yourself, you've dealt with this for so long, you "know" what's going to happen.  It never changes, it's always the same.  So, in theory, you could be making yourself see those things.  Maybe you're not, but it could be a possibility that you aren't seeing or don't want to see.
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(Yesterday, 11:34 AM)DarkSelene Wrote: You discovered the reason why they feel so trapped.

One feels like they need something to feel better about their lives, and  they have to feel better about their lives to get it... it's a never ending cycle, and these "not all women" comments won't help much if they've experienced this forever. "Not all" or "some" is a unicorn and one that they haven't found. Wouldn't you be feeling trapped, possibly even hopeless if that was your life?

I understand the trapped feeling since I've dealt with it and still do to quite an extent but I still don't feel like it justifies some of the massive extrapolations that seem to get made on this subject. Doesn't matter which gender it's aimed at.
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(8 hours ago)Paraiyar Wrote:
(Yesterday, 11:34 AM)DarkSelene Wrote: You discovered the reason why they feel so trapped.

One feels like they need something to feel better about their lives, and  they have to feel better about their lives to get it... it's a never ending cycle, and these "not all women" comments won't help much if they've experienced this forever. "Not all" or "some" is a unicorn and one that they haven't found. Wouldn't you be feeling trapped, possibly even hopeless if that was your life?

I understand the trapped feeling since I've dealt with it and still do to quite an extent but I still don't feel like it justifies some of the massive extrapolations that seem to get made on this subject. Doesn't matter which gender it's aimed at.

There are generalizations but I don't think they're often incredibly extrapolated, certainly not in this thread.

I think that people have dealt with the guys that complain about this so much that they have this pre-conceived image and they ignore the arguments being made, it happened before, it happens when you put everyone in the same "virgin, bitter guy" suit. I'm not juding this, because I know why it happens and how -- after a while that you have been exposed to arguments you don't agree with, it's tiring to listen and one wants to be combative to make it stop. But just paying attention to some of the arguments made in this thread would make it very easy to not even be sympathetic or compassionate, but just to comprehend their perspective.



Have to stop having a bad attitude when, observably, the males that are the most attractive to women have bad attitudes. Stop caring about what society thinks to be accepted by society. Have to feel better about their lives to get what will make them feel better about their lives. Have to not care about being lonely and feeling inadequate for 30+ years when everyone in their lives have judged them for being lonely and inadequate (and have not given them a chance because they've been lonely, inadequate)...

It's contradictory and useless, they're trying to explain that.
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