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Brennabean said:
I agree with Richard, it's no one else's business.

One thing that bugs me that I have seen so much on this forum is about men saying they have it so much harder than women. And obviously this pisses women off because what would you know? It's dumb to compare when you cant be sure. Yeah you can go on statistics or based on people you know or have heard of, you still sound like a dumbass. No one can know who has it harder unless it becomes possible to swap consciousness. Lol mini rant over.

Totally agree with this.
 
Do whatever you want... It kind of sounds like your mind is already made up. Also, I agree that we are different (men and women) and there are some things we just aren't going to understand. But the example given, about just making fun of penis size meaning that it's easier for a girl to humiliate a guy... I have to disagree. A guy could say the same thing. She was no good in bed, she had small breasts, she was clearly a lesbian, whore, slut, etc. In return for whatever rejection the guy felt. I think we're all equally capable of hurting each other.
Also, I'd be nervous about sleeping with someone who has had a lot of experience versus a virgin, simply because I would be wondering how I measured up. Men don't have a monopoly on low self esteem.
 
kaetic said:
Do whatever you want... It kind of sounds like your mind is already made up. Also, I agree that we are different (men and women) and there are some things we just aren't going to understand. But the example given, about just making fun of penis size meaning that it's easier for a girl to humiliate a guy... I have to disagree. A guy could say the same thing. She was no good in bed, she had small breasts, she was clearly a lesbian, whore, slut, etc. In return for whatever rejection the guy felt. I think we're all equally capable of hurting each other.
Also, I'd be nervous about sleeping with someone who has had a lot of experience versus a virgin, simply because I would be wondering how I measured up. Men don't have a monopoly on low self esteem.

This is actually something I've been hearing more and more as of late, how women feel like they are being compared to other "conquests" I use this word descriptive of the perceived male society, I do not agree with that myself. It is very true that a woman reaching a higher age, lets say 30+ as a virgin will almost certainly have issues that play on her confidence and self esteem, just because there are thought to be less of these woman does not mean they don't suffer from similar fears and anxieties about relationships and sex.

Because of the exact reason that we as humans are so **** capable of inflicting hurt, to one another as to ourselves, the focus should be on being a good person, and understanding of others, If only it was so easy to trust and open up without that fear of getting hurt in the process.

There have been many comments about penis size and how it doesn't matter to MOST women, let me be the first here to say that breast size doesn't matter to MOST men either, even though this is often one of the first visual attraction triggers to men.
 
MisterLonely said:
kaetic said:
Do whatever you want... It kind of sounds like your mind is already made up. Also, I agree that we are different (men and women) and there are some things we just aren't going to understand. But the example given, about just making fun of penis size meaning that it's easier for a girl to humiliate a guy... I have to disagree. A guy could say the same thing. She was no good in bed, she had small breasts, she was clearly a lesbian, whore, slut, etc. In return for whatever rejection the guy felt. I think we're all equally capable of hurting each other.
Also, I'd be nervous about sleeping with someone who has had a lot of experience versus a virgin, simply because I would be wondering how I measured up. Men don't have a monopoly on low self esteem.

This is actually something I've been hearing more and more as of late, how women feel like they are being compared to other "conquests" I use this word descriptive of the perceived male society, I do not agree with that myself. It is very true that a woman reaching a higher age, lets say 30+ as a virgin will almost certainly have issues that play on her confidence and self esteem, just because there are thought to be less of these woman does not mean they don't suffer from similar fears and anxieties about relationships and sex.

Because of the exact reason that we as humans are so **** capable of inflicting hurt, to one another as to ourselves, the focus should be on being a good person, and understanding of others, If only it was so easy to trust and open up without that fear of getting hurt in the process.

There have been many comments about penis size and how it doesn't matter to MOST women, let me be the first here to say that breast size doesn't matter to MOST men either, even though this is often one of the first visual attraction triggers to men.


Yeah but penis and breast are very different in terms of purpose, so you can't just compare them. Maybe internet and social media have ruined our sexual lifes (at least mine). There was no such comparison before, no such competition and shame. I don't really know, is just a thought on how i can resolve this situation, if is possible
 
kaetic said:
Do whatever you want... It kind of sounds like your mind is already made up. Also, I agree that we are different (men and women) and there are some things we just aren't going to understand. But the example given, about just making fun of penis size meaning that it's easier for a girl to humiliate a guy... I have to disagree. A guy could say the same thing. She was no good in bed, she had small breasts, she was clearly a lesbian, whore, slut, etc. In return for whatever rejection the guy felt. I think we're all equally capable of hurting each other.
Also, I'd be nervous about sleeping with someone who has had a lot of experience versus a virgin, simply because I would be wondering how I measured up. Men don't have a monopoly on low self esteem.

No, they don't but i assure you that women on this topic have it way easier than men. Last week i was talking to a group of seemingly nice fat chicks that work with me ( i have nothing against fat people, just for pointing it out ) and at one point they started to make fun of the boyfriend of one of them. It was a incredible experience. I was starring in disbelief as these beings were making fun of this great guy that i personally know, he is a great worker and e very gentle person. So i saw these girls who were usually nice and educated to literrally destroy this poor guy. It blew my mind. How is possible that someone that unatractive can shame easily HER boyfriend, a person who never treated her badly. 

Idk, of course this is just one group of girls but it reinforced in me the idea even more. But this is a thought of no use, i guess that i need to be humiliated a lot to win this feeling
 
Some guys are more attracted to bigger girls. My ex thought I looked MUCH better fat than thin. He would constantly talk about how much he missed my ass after I lost the weight. And every girl he's been with since me has been bigger.
So yeah, they might be unattractive to YOU, but they certainly aren't to everyone. Why do you think there are so many BBW sites out there?
 
TheRealCallie said:
Some guys are more attracted to bigger girls.  My ex thought I looked MUCH better fat than thin.  He would constantly talk about how much he missed my ass after I lost the weight.  And every girl he's been with since me has been bigger.  
So yeah, they might be unattractive to YOU, but they certainly aren't to everyone.  Why do you think there are so many BBW sites out there?

Of course there are men who likes bigger women, just like i have heard that some women like small men. My comment referred to the fact thet they are considered unatractive by the society and at my workplace. So is funny how someone considered unatractive can be that mean to someone else.

And it depends of how big were you, some fat never hurts
 
Was it really DESTROYING? Excuse my skepticism, but it's the girlfriend of a coworker, she knows you have contact with him, she's actively dating the guy, it's not an ex that she's pissed off about (which also wouldn't be an excuse to act this way), you're all at work... that sounds very weird to me. Are you sure it wasn't playful making fun of him and you took it the other way?

If she really was this rude about the guy with no regards to how he'll look or be treated in his place of work, shouldn't you warn him that this is happening?
 
Unix said:
kaetic said:
Do whatever you want... It kind of sounds like your mind is already made up. Also, I agree that we are different (men and women) and there are some things we just aren't going to understand. But the example given, about just making fun of penis size meaning that it's easier for a girl to humiliate a guy... I have to disagree. A guy could say the same thing. She was no good in bed, she had small breasts, she was clearly a lesbian, whore, slut, etc. In return for whatever rejection the guy felt. I think we're all equally capable of hurting each other.
Also, I'd be nervous about sleeping with someone who has had a lot of experience versus a virgin, simply because I would be wondering how I measured up. Men don't have a monopoly on low self esteem.

No, they don't but i assure you that women on this topic have it way easier than men. Last week i was talking to a group of seemingly nice fat chicks that work with me ( i have nothing against fat people, just for pointing it out ) and at one point they started to make fun of the boyfriend of one of them. It was a incredible experience. I was starring in disbelief as these beings were making fun of this great guy that i personally know, he is a great worker and e very gentle person. So i saw these girls who were usually nice and educated to literrally destroy this poor guy. It blew my mind. How is possible that someone that unatractive can shame easily HER boyfriend, a person who never treated her badly. 

Idk, of course this is just one group of girls but it reinforced in me the idea even more. But this is a thought of no use, i guess that i need to be humiliated a lot to win this feeling

...and I've witnessed guys talking honeysuckle about their girlfriends. Doesn't mean women have it better or worse. But I get your point. It's the same point I hear over and over again, and not just from you. It's worse for you, because you're you and not me. Screw my feelings, right?

Penis/Breast size... not the same purpose, but when speaking of body image issues tied to gender identity... it is the same idea.
 
We all want a connection with someone, but that doesn't mean it's going to fall out of the sky into our lap. The poster might have said he just wants to lose his virginity but he's probably sexually frustrated and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's natural. I think he's really curious or really horny. So many young people come to that point and they sleep with someone they don't care about because they're curious about sex. I know a few girls where they lost it in less than ideal circumstances, they didn't even really want it but they didn't want to upset their bf. At least with an escort , it will be two fully consensual adults. Anyway, I think if OP wants to have sex, he should have sex. Everything can be a worthwhile experience.
 
DarkSelene said:
Was it really DESTROYING? Excuse my skepticism, but it's the girlfriend of a coworker, she knows you have contact with him, she's actively dating the guy, it's not an ex that she's pissed off about (which also wouldn't be an excuse to act this way), you're all at work... that sounds very weird to me. Are you sure it wasn't playful making fun of him and you took it the other way?

If she really was this rude about the guy with no regards to how he'll look or be treated in his place of work, shouldn't you warn him that this is happening?

Pretty sure, you have no idea of how aggressive is my work enviroment. This guy works with me but we aren't that close. And i don't think that i should put my nose in things that aren't my business. 

Done it once, nothing good happened, lesson earned

kaetic said:
Unix said:
kaetic said:
Do whatever you want... It kind of sounds like your mind is already made up. Also, I agree that we are different (men and women) and there are some things we just aren't going to understand. But the example given, about just making fun of penis size meaning that it's easier for a girl to humiliate a guy... I have to disagree. A guy could say the same thing. She was no good in bed, she had small breasts, she was clearly a lesbian, whore, slut, etc. In return for whatever rejection the guy felt. I think we're all equally capable of hurting each other.
Also, I'd be nervous about sleeping with someone who has had a lot of experience versus a virgin, simply because I would be wondering how I measured up. Men don't have a monopoly on low self esteem.

No, they don't but i assure you that women on this topic have it way easier than men. Last week i was talking to a group of seemingly nice fat chicks that work with me ( i have nothing against fat people, just for pointing it out ) and at one point they started to make fun of the boyfriend of one of them. It was a incredible experience. I was starring in disbelief as these beings were making fun of this great guy that i personally know, he is a great worker and e very gentle person. So i saw these girls who were usually nice and educated to literrally destroy this poor guy. It blew my mind. How is possible that someone that unatractive can shame easily HER boyfriend, a person who never treated her badly. 

Idk, of course this is just one group of girls but it reinforced in me the idea even more. But this is a thought of no use, i guess that i need to be humiliated a lot to win this feeling

...and I've witnessed guys talking honeysuckle about their girlfriends. Doesn't mean women have it better or worse. But I get your point. It's the same point I hear over and over again, and not just from you. It's worse for you, because you're you and not me. Screw my feelings, right?

Penis/Breast size... not the same purpose, but when speaking of body image issues tied to gender identity... it is the same idea.

Didn't get the "Screw my feelings, right?" line. 

The idea is the same, but not the implication of it. On this topic, and i'm talking about THIS particular topic, women have it easier than men. I have never seen a woman that bodyshamed for her lack of breast as i have seen men bodyshamed even by their girlfriends, and who knows, maybe cause i'm only 23 i haven't seen them all but the difference is astoning. Is worse for me because i'm a man, and the penis is the most important physical aspect of a man sexuality. Breast are a importantaspect, but they are not nearly comparable. And i don't gove a fresia about breasts in women. To me the physical aspect is the least important thing in a woman, i "loved" women that were physically unatractive, but they still managed to honeysuckle talk about others. 

****, i look very discriminatory and needy here. Maybe is because i only had negative expreriences? Argh, at lest i'm honest


alphacompton said:
We all want a connection with someone, but that doesn't mean it's going to fall out of the sky into our lap. The poster might have said he just wants to lose his virginity but he's probably sexually frustrated and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's natural. I think he's really curious or really horny. So many young people come to that point and they sleep with someone they don't care about because they're curious about sex. I know a few girls where they lost it in less than ideal circumstances, they didn't even really want it but they didn't want to upset their bf. At least with an escort , it will be two fully consensual adults.  Anyway, I think if OP wants to have sex, he should have sex. Everything can be a worthwhile experience.

Never said that. I am the first one to say that we need to act upon things, and yes, i'm sexually frustrated ( who wouldn't be after 23 years of self imposed abstinence ). These is nothing bad about casual sex however, and i am always happy to see people who are having lot of casual sex and enjoying themselves. It makes me understand that the problem is mine and that i won't resolve anything with anger or depression. I don't know how to express this feeling, i feel trully happy when i see the smiling couples around. The only thing that is destroying me is the thought that i have never had anyone and probably never will, cause of my menomations. Sometimes i wonder if even one girl ever liked me. Who knows, maybe i need to ask them, i have nothing to lose LOL
 
TheRealCallie said:
Women are evil, we will never understand anything.

Not ALL women! There are the rare few out there that are still in touch with reality.  :D

You shouldn't generalize a whole gender like that.  :p
 
kamya said:
TheRealCallie said:
Women are evil, we will never understand anything.

Not ALL women! There are the rare few out there that are still in touch with reality.  :D

You shouldn't generalize a whole gender like that.  :p

Funny I was thinking the same thing about men.
 
I'm just responding to the original post, as I don't have the time nor the energy to go through each individual response, but I'll say this: at the risk of being of a little TMI, I don't think 5 inches is small, in my experience it's about average, but then again, what do I know? In my personal opinion, a lot of people's perspectives are skewed by pornography. I don't think it's healthy, but whatever. While men are traditionally more often viewed as the ones guilty of having unrealistic expectations from porn, I do think there are definitely women as well, and I think that maybe their views of penis size is skewed by that. I mean, do you really think that there are altogether a lot of women really taking footlong pipes? Idk. Also maybe the girls' private masturbation habits might have something to do that as well? Idk. I do think that the women shaming of dick size is ridiculous. I can tell you that taking a large d can be very painful and that there are women that don't want that, at least in my experience, even tho they may be hard to find. So, in conclusion, I would say, yeah, if it gives you more confidence, than yeah, go for it, but just make sure she is STI-free. Just saying. I hope that helps. 

Also, mods, please let me know if my post is not clean enough for ALL for future reference, and I'll edit it.
 
wallflower79 said:
If it gives you more confidence, than yeah, go for it, but just make sure she is STI-free. Just saying. I hope that helps. 

Not at all, hell, i'm even embarassed to sleep with an escort...i'm a total mess hahaha 

Funny story, i tryed to call one of them two monts ago. We set up a appointment, i was even more nervous than when i got robbed. So i called her the day we set up the appointment and asked her where she was "receiving" her clients. She gave me the adress. I showed up and called her but she hasn't responded. End of the story rolf

Rejected from an escort... i was laughing my ass of as i was walking to my home. It was a magical moment, i swear! All of the sudden i have seen the comedy behind the stuation and i laughed about it for days

The only thought of paying someone for sex disgust me but i can't see a solution. Also i feel that if i pay a woman to have sex with me something will end. Like this is a decisive moment in my life, if i go with an escort i probably end up going with them for all my life, because is easy
 

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